when was the last time you LIED about liking/owning some music?

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of course, i dislike it when one music fan accuses another of being dishonest or phoney for possessing a certain opinion.

i particularly dislike it when i'm the pop fan on the receiving end of the accusation.

but of course, there have been times when the person accusing me would have been right. i touched upon something similar on the awkwardness/embarrassment talking about music in person thread, where i just say everything is ok whether i believe so or not to avoid being drawn into a certain conversation. i've changed my opinions about stuff depending on who i'm talking to often as well. i amn't particularly ashamed of this or anything, but if i got into a situation where someone pointed out that i was just changing my opinion from something i said in different circumstances, i would probably find it quite humiliating. or if someone noticed that i was venturing an opinion on a record i had heard, or stealing my opinions from someone else...

when was the last time you lied about music?

why did you lie?

well?

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 2 December 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i sometimes lie about knowing some music, when someone, for the 17th time that evening, asks if i know this or that obscure hip hop band. it's just easier.

― Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Thursday, 2 December 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i used to lie to friends when they played me records: "yes, that's very interesting" when what i meant was, fucking hell, that honks. but for the past couple of years i've decided - for want of a better phrase - to decide upon a policy of truth. and it's fucking wonderful, because it means my mate has stopped playing me dire folk music.

i'm even honest about friends' bands these days.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 2 December 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

a really pretty girl asked me if she could borrow Endtroducing, once, and I said I'd lend it to her, although I didn't own it, but I spent the next few days looking for it, half-heartedly, but didn't buy it, and the next time i saw her, she didn't ask, and i didn't remind her.

― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 2 December 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

that's like a metaphor for life

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 2 December 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG that reads like something outta Curb Your Enthusiasm.

― Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Thursday, 2 December 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

About 2 minutes ago on A thread for the Cure reissues when I said I'd got Curiosity (the second side of the initial cassette version of Concert).

I'm pretty sure that some bastard nicked it from my car sometime around 1986.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 2 December 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"i'm even honest about friends' bands these days."

That's highly laudable and extremely brave of you: but you're going to end up dead in a gutter somewhere, sad and lonely and unloved, you do realise that, don't you?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I lied about liking Preston School of Industry to impress one of those women-things. Didn't work.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

The only thing those women things seem to dislike even more than when you lie to them, is when you tell them the truth.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Lots of people in work ask me what I think of Generic Rock Band XYZ and I had decided it was best for everyone if I stuck to non-committal "well it's ok but it's not my cup of tea" or used diversionary tactics like saying "didn't they do that song off Spiderman?" rather than going into 5 minute rants about how they were listening to absolute shite.

Sadly they didn't respond in kind to anything I played so now when anyone asks me "Is the new XYZ album any good" I usually say "No, it's fucking rotten but you'll probably like it anyway" - even if I haven't heard it.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I've hardly ever done this. But back around '88-89 I used to talk music with a record store employee - the only other minutemen/Meat Puppets fan in Sarnia, Ontario, or so I imagined - and I was too intimidated to confess my eternal soft spot for Styx when he ridiculed them one day. So I joined in the fun and dissed 'em right along with him. Fortunately, I'm better-adjusted today, plus ILM has convinced me that everything I like is just fine.

And in elementary school, I had to keep my disco/Donna Summer love secret for fear of being beaten up by the Cheap Trick fans in my class. (After all, it was 1979, y'understand.) The fact that I also liked Led Zep and Aerosmith might've worked in my favour but my B-52s fandom sure didn't help. Jeezus Kee-rist!

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

you're going to end up dead in a gutter somewhere, sad and lonely and unloved, you do realise that, don't you?

oh, that's a dead cert anyway.

at the moment i'm very lucky: i have three close friends in three different bands, and each one is really quite wonderful (hoboken, swimmer one and sans trauma, since nobody asked).

the closest i've come to grief is pointing out to andrew from swimmer one that his friends luxury car are the worst band in scotland/the world/history. this offends him deeply, for some reason.

but i'm way harder than him, so i'm not too fussed.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I will sometimes allow people to get the impression that I liked a record earlier than I actually did.

For example, when talking about 80s music, I'll sometimes mix bands that I knew and liked during that time (Costello, Clash, Cure, Smiths, Furs, XTC) with bands that I had only barely heard about during that time (Joy Division, Big Star, Buzzcocks, Husker Du, Replacements).

― The Mad Puffin, Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I have implied on ILM that I have heard certain albums (eg
Definitely Maybe, Slanted & Enchanted) when arguing a certain point. I only do this when I've heard enough of the albums to feel like I know what I'm talking about. Like, I bought 'Trigger Cut' and heard some other bits on John Peel, and now have 'Here' and 'Conduit for Sale' on MP3, so I'm not going to let someone say Crooked Rain Crooked Rain was a huge letdown without comment, just because I've never heard the whole of Slanted & Enchanted. Maybe I should, album rockists. Maybe I won't do it anymore.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

friends bands, yeah.

― LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I lie about friends bands - I always say it's great even when I think it's not. Maybe that's dishonest, but you know... what makes my opinion so important anyway? I do sometimes suggest 'improvements' though.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

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