But, IMO, this makes the box set kind of fall between two chairs. If you want the artists hits, and feel like a 1 CD greatest hits would not be extensive enough for such a long career, then you usually want the hits to sound the way you heard them on the radio, you don't want them replaced with demos or live versions. Also, you'd rather prefer some more minor hit songs rather than some rubbish the arists originally didn't find good enough for release at all.
On the other hand, if you are a dedicated fan, then you certainly want the extras, lots of unreleased goodies and alternative versions of tracks you already know. Basically, you want whatever you don't already have with that act. But then, you don't need more than half of the box set to be filled with a lot of stuff you already have, mainly all the hits that you already have on the original albums.
So, instead of releasing a 4CD box set with a huge artist, kind of compromising between those two groups, maybe they should instead release two 3CD box sets, one with the hits, the exact way they sounded, for the hit collectors, and another one, with exclusively previously unreleased stuff for the fans?
Any opinions about this?
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)
I'd say that things like what the Cure and Siouxsie did with their boxes are right up my alley -- a slew of obscurities in one place plus liner notes talking about them and some really good artwork = great! On that level I'm the dedicated fan and then some.
On the other hand, something like the Echo box set -- career overview, all/most of the singles plus the B-sides and a slew of rarities -- was and remains equally attractive to me as a way of representing a band. Actually that collection served as a strong reintroduction to a band that I had enjoyed for years, gave me some new perspectives on their sound and work.
I suppose it all depends -- strikes me that there's no one right answer.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)
The all-too-prevalent habit of producing box-sets which are 80% (a) and 20% (b) generally just seem to be a cynical way of selling the same box (and at full box-set prices) to both sets of people thereby satisfying only the financial interests of the artist / label and of neither group of consumers.
Yes I know this may appear to contradict what I've been saying about The Cure reissues - but to have consciously co-ordinated the simultaneous creation of a box-set of "B-sides and rarities", together with a series of multi-disc reissues of all of that bands albums with rarities and bonus tracks but which exclude certain relevant tracks; for no other reason than that those tracks "already" appear on the box-set; smacks to me of an hyper-uber-mega-cynical exploitative marketing ploy to deliberately create a need for that box-set for no other reason than to be able to sell it separately for more money.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 2 December 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)
If you do, none whatsoever.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 2 December 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)
How often do people buy boxsets from artists they have little or no other material from, though?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 2 December 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 December 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 2 December 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)
I think what I'm trying to say is that box sets are often good gateways for people into canonical artists whom they've always wanted to own but have never gotten around to purchasing; if I was going to introduce Elvis, Zep or The Beatles into my CD collection I would look at box sets before looking at anything else (ditto Echo and James Brown, to switch to different canons).
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 December 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)
Incidentally, the Echo box is what I dropped onto my iPod, but when I want to listen to the band I put on the individual expanded remasters. I guess that means I prefer the "expanded greatest hits" model, at least when the band hasn't been cleaned up yet. I'm super psyched about the five disc Band boxed set due next year.
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 2 December 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)