The Wire: 50 Records of the Year

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Hey, everybody's doing it and I don't think I've seen anyone link to/post this one yet. For your edification:

1. Bjork: Vespertine

2. Cannibal Ox: The Cold Vein

3. Fennesz: Endless Summer

4. Charley Patton/Various: Screamin' and Hollerin' The Blues - The Worlds Of Charley Patton

5. Le Tigre: Feminist Sweepstakes

6. John Coltrane: The Olatunji Concert - The Last Live Recording

7. John Cale: New York In The 1960s - Sun Blindness Music

8. Missy Elliot: Miss E... So Addictive

9. Herbert: Bodily Functions

10. No-Neck Blues Band: Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones But Names Will Never Hurt Me

11. Saul Williams: Amethyst Rock Star

12. Jay-Z: The Blueprint

13. Shuggie Otis: Inspiration Information

14. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds: No More Shall We Part

15. Bonnie 'Prince' Billy: Ease Down The Road

16. Electrelane: Rock It To The Moon

17. Miles Davis: Live At The Fillmore East, 7 March 1970 - It's About That Time

18. Radiohead: Amnesiac

19. Low: Things We Lost In The Fire

20. Nerd: In Search Of...

21. John Oswald: 69 Plunderphonics 96

22. Spring Heel Jack/The Blues Series Continuum: Masses

23. Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraiso UFO: La Novia

24. The Velvet Underground: The Bootleg Series Vol.1 - The Quine Tapes

25. The Necks: Aether

26. Taku Sugimoto: Italia

27. Tortoise: Standards

28. Toshimaru Nakamura & Sachiko M (sic): Do

29. Matmos: A Chance To Cut Is A Chance To Cure

30. Jackie O Motherfucker: Liberation

31. Fushitsusha: Origin's Hesitation

32. Mercury Rev: All Is Dream

33. Nam June Paik: Works 1958-79

34. Pulp: We Love Life

35. David S Ware: Corridors & Parallels

36. Glass Cage: Glass Cage

37. Roots Manuva: Run Come Save Me

38. Buck 65: Man Overboard

39. Cyclo: Cyclo

40. John Butcher/Derek Bailey/Rhodri Davies: Vortices & Angels

41. Blectum From Blechdom: Haus De Snaus

42. DJ/Rupture: Gold Teeth Thief

43. Morton Feldman: String Quartet II

44. Aesop Rock: Labor Days

45. Spontaneous Music Ensemble: Challenge 1966-67

46. His Name Is Alive: Someday My Blues Will Cover The Earth

47. Jemeel Moondoc: Revolt of the Negro Lawn Jockeys

48. Supersilent: 5

49. Sylvia Hallett: White Fog

50. Solid Steel Presents DJ Food & DK: Now, Listen!

Michael Jones, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Not a terrifically exciting list... I have just three (increasingly I seem to be buying the records NO-ONE likes), and there's maybe another nine I wouldn't mind having.

The Wire also do a genre breakdown, and those getting the big box review treatment in each case were:

AVANT ROCK: Jackie O Motherfucker

DUB & ROOTS: Various: Studio One Roots

ELECTRONICA: Matmos

GLOBAL: The Monks of the Monastery of Gyuto, Tibet: Voice of the Tantra

HIPHOP: Aesop Rock

IMPROV: String With Evan Parker: s/t

JAZZ: Sun Ra & His Intergalatic Arkestra: It Is Forbidden

MODERN COMPOSITION: Stefan Scodanibbio: Six Duos

OUTER LIMITS: Keiji Haino: Abandon All Words...

There's also compilations and re-issues listed alphabetically, but sod that...

Michael Jones, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*Strings* and *Intergalactic*, obv.

Michael Jones, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Vespertine at #1 is just plain wrong. Her worst record and suddenly she's all over every damn top of the year list.

Melissa W, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Does the Wire usually rank them in order like this? I don't remember such a list.

I hate when people include reissues on a year-end list.

The Wire is getting to be much more pop, isn't it? Maybe this mirrors a general trend of the avant-garde trying their hand at pop forms. I hope so.

Mark, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(nuffink to do wiv me, btw: i didn't vote this year as haf been whirled up in Greatest Era for Pop Since All Time Began, and i knew stepz would be ruled out of Out Rock etc)

(i once voted for level 42 in a wire jazz poll hurrah)

mark s, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I hate when people include reissues on a year-end list.

Why? If said reissue was completely unavailable to the listening public, what's wrong with putting it on a year-end list? With the number of great unheard archival material coming out these days (like the Cale CD, f'instance), not to mention totally rare and relatively unheard records being re-issued, what's not to like? I'd rather listen to most of the reissues on that list (and quite a few that aren't) then some of the boring shit being passed off as "new" this year (the Strokes, anyone?).

By the way, the Charley Patton box set is fuckin' incredible. Too bad the price is a bit prohibitive.

hstencil, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Does the Wire usually rank them in order like this? I don't remember such a list"

Checks back-issues...

This is the first time I've seen them explicitly order the top ten (each one gets a little picture of the disc peeking out of a Discman and a capsule review), and I inferred the order of the rest from the main list.

They normally say "50 Records of the Year", but then list them in a non-alphabetical way so you naturally assume there's some kind of ranking going on. By this token, Anti-Pop Consortium's "Tragic Epilogue" was the 2000 chart-topper, Mouse On Mars' "Niun Niggung" was 1999's and Sonic Youth's "A Thousand Leaves" was #1 in '98.

Michael Jones, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mixing reissues and new releases in the same list bothers me because the list becomes watered down, at least as a tool for spotting trends. I want to see a list that says, "This is what we think is the best of what's happening now" instead of "Due to the machinations of the record industry, these albums all happened to be released this year." It's a personal preference -- I agree that reissues can be the highlights of a listening year.

Mark, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Totally agree with you, Mark.

And what's up with Shuggie Otis placing so high? I like the record alright, but sheeeez. I must be missing s'thing.

Andy K., Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, what purpose does a best-of list serve, then? Personally, I read 'em just to see what people think were the best records to be released in the year, not for vague "trend-spotting" purposes. Also, when such a sizable amount of "new" music is being made by recycling "old" sounds, what's the harm in ranking a reissue as a key re-discovery? And, in the case of the Cale disc and some others, if music goes basically unheard for nearly forty years (or any length of time, for that matter), what's the harm in treating it as a new release since it was previously unavailable? It's not like every "new" record released in 2001 was recorded solely in 2001. Wasn't some portion of Fennesz's Endless Summer recorded before 2001? Jim O'Rourke's "new" CD on Mego doesn't have anything newer than 1999 on it!

hstencil, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Vespertine at #1 is just plain wrong. Her worst record and suddenly she's all over every damn top of the year list.

my 2cents:: maybe not the best album of the year,but still worthy of making any best of for the year. bjork still manages to come up with interesting stuff that challenges after all these years. there are a ton of artists that have maybe a 3 to 5 year run where they come up with really incredible stuff....then for whatever reasons,just sort of fizzle out creatively. see:: elvis costello or paul westerberg. i have to give bjork credit for continuing to be fresh. for those that slag "vespertine" ,give it another chance in 6months and see how it sounds .

william harris, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've given it 8 months. It's been on the internet since at least April. It gets more monotonous every time. What a weak album.

Melissa W, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Wire (or, "The Dire," as Ugly American Mag scribe J. Marlowe is wont to suggest) has sucked shit since Day One -- why do you even care to mull over their choices?

The Wire has as much relevance to the state of modern music as Donatella Versace has to the implementation of subsidy programs at the Department of Agriculture -- NONE.

They are deeply engaged with... the past.

Just my two cent's worth, of course. Your opinions may differ.

Sincerely,

Laura N.

Laura N., Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

J. Marlowe = the missing common ancestor of Dinosaur Jr.'s founding members?

Nitsuh, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the list is brilliant. The Wire is the only magazine that puts three great hip-hop albums on the top of the list while the rest of the british press is trying to save rock&roll (one more time). Bonnie 'prince billy' and Nick Cave have made great records and Vespertine is my also my favourite album of the year. i can understand people who think she's an histrionic bitch but NOT in this album. Sorry for my poor English.

rob, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No complaints with the top 3 from this subscriber. Most of the Jazz releases have passed me by, aside from the mute point of whether reissues should be included. Melissa W's personal jihad against 'Vespertine' continues to puzzle me.
mark s, Level 42??????

stevo, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

YAY! I've only heard 15 of these kids! I own a Jay-Z single. My flatmate has the Missy Elliot single. I have some His Name is Alive on TAPE, lots of JOHN CALE but not that, a LE TIGRE album which SKIPS on both crappy old CD players I haf so I never hear and for gods sake someone fetch me a JEMEEL MOONDOC record as thats an amusing title. I have heard OF Blectum from Blechdom but not HEARD. I'm listening to Barry White now!

(Oh bugger my next selection is FRIDGE chiz I R REVEALED).

NO! I HAVE THE LOW ALBUM! Actually, the fact I know any of these kids is testament to THE WIRE HAS SOLD OUT.

Sarah, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mel W's Verspertine aversion is what's keeping me from buying the damn thing, for good or ill.

Mark, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

sucky for you

chiznaki, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe The Wire is slowly going the way of Alternative Press. "Next month: Biba Kopf on Slipknot."

Andy K., Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

...for gods sake someone fetch me a JEMEEL MOONDOC record as thats an amusing title.

That's his given name, not a made-up title. And although I haven't heard the CD on the list, he's a great sax player, definitely worth checking out.

hstencil, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

>>> (increasingly I seem to be buying the records NO-ONE likes)

and producing them too, probably (but *I* like them enough to make up for it; phew).

Two good records on the list: credit by association:

1. Charley Patton: cos Dylan has song referring to / based on him, 'High Water (for Charley Patton)' on his LP LOVE AND THEFT which is 2nd best LP of the year.

2. Velvets bootleg, cos was recorded by Quine so is grate (Quine inevitably supplies most blood-halting breath-taking moments on 1st best LP of the year).

("See? It all works out.")

the pinefox, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Any list that has Vespertine at number one is ass.

And putting the worst album of Nick Cave's solo career in the top twenty doesn't exactly win my respect either...

Nicole, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Surely purpose of the ILM End Of Year Post now = revelation that ILM tastes are just as "boring", no better and maybe worse than all these magazine polls? Take out all the reissues and this could be ILM's very own.

Tim, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe The Wire is slowly going the way of Alternative Press. "Next month: Biba Kopf on Slipknot."

you say this like it would be a BAD thing.

jess, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't think this list is boring. I would change the order around though.

Honda, Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i dont think 'no more shall we part' is the worst album of cave's career although i did find it something of a let down after 'the boatman's call'. he seems to be struggling with sincerity throughout the lp and it does make you wonder what he thinks he's trying to do.

david, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Surely purpose of the ILM End Of Year Post now = revelation that ILM tastes are just as "boring", no better and maybe worse than all these magazine polls?

I'd second that. Surely problem with end of year lists = they are aggregate of a bunch of individual prefs, therefore albums on list are ones which everyone thinks *are the best* and the whole exercise is predictable because you're aware of what genre(s) that publication/website focus on? e.g. it would be v. surprising if pitchfork had, say, aaliyah as #1 or musik had the dismemberment plan?

so most interesting lists = individuals. e.g. the pitchfork writers lists are more interesting (less predictable/boring) than the aggregate.

sorry about being so vague, I have a plane to catch. (seriously)

clive, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Great, here we go again. Another list of stuff that a)most people have never heard of, and of those people, b)most people can't afford all of them (nothing wrong with either of those things, it's good to be informed of stuff's existence), only to be received by a load of people sniffing "Yawn, boring, been there done that, etc". I'm glad everybody is so COOOOOOL. And rich. I'm not bothering to look at any of these 'list' threads again until somebody makes their own. And why don't more people do that? 'Cause they're not cool enough to get everything for free (there, I said it), and perhaps don't want to be the object of ostentatious public snoring.

dave q, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I didn't actually read anybody's responses, either. Heh.

dave q, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Q: I think you have a point or two there. I have never said 'been there done that' re. any of these lists: almost all the music is alien to me. The main thing is to make sure it stays that way.

the pinefox, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's a nice list. I have the coltrane and taku sugimoto albums, both really brilliant records. Will definetely get No neck blues band and (hopefully) charley patton (or otherwise I will have to settle for the 3 CDs for one set that was issued recently) and the bailey trio. I like the wire, the only music magazine that you can buy at WH smith's that is worth it. The music coverage is fairly comprehensive (though I ignore a lot of the genres they cover- hip-hop, electronic, etc.)

I have to say that as a wire reader the covers have sucked, though. Jim O'rouke, Tortoise, Bjork have already made the cover before. Mercury Rev and Signur Ros are absolute stinkers (i suppose you gotta get hold of the indie crowd).

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But any magazine that would put Derik Bailey or Evan Parker on their cover, they've got to be golden. But the Radiohead, Mercury Rev, Bjork cover thing as of late...it did get some people up in arms about what the deal is....But fortunately/unfortunately, we're dealing in music circles that just REALLY LOVE MUSIC, all kinds. If something is really good or important to their tastes, they will roll with it, regardless of the consequences. And that is a good thing...it shows to me a sincere notion of how music affects them. And there is nothing wrong with that, to be sincere in the face of criticism, especially against something you hold dear.

Gage-o, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wonder if the same people who complain about the 'Wire''s remit getting too large are the same people who complain about fragmentation/segregation in the radio market?

dave q, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

don;t know if this is ture but i'm going to sunbmit it anyway: more than most magz, the wire = a space that its readers have graduated to, from other musics they no longer entirely trust or enjoy, musics theyve "grown out of". How many ppl have braxton or bailey or merzbow as their FIRST teen love? Almost no one, surely. (i heard my first braxton aged c.16/17 — B-X°/N-O-1- 47A: i thought "blimey i am *so* not old or learned enuff to understand this rekkid, i shal leave it til i am older")

but if you entirely are in the habit of distrusting/disliking yr first love, you are in danger of mis-seeing the negative aspects of yr graduation

mark s, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

mark yr entirely otm, and scarily so.

i've already had a letter published in the wire on this topic (it's the acid mothers temple issue, wherefor you can read robin's delia derbyshire obit...ilm massif reprazent), but i came off as rather vague, so perhaps for clarification: perhaps because i came to the wire late i don't remember a time before it seemed like a genre polyglot and wonderfully so. i can think of no other print magazine which covers pop music (when it does) with as much scrutiny and insight (i.e. a lot like freaky trigger, no?) and still has time for yet another ten reviews of d. bailey's last toy guitar explorations.

jess, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I "discovered" John Cage when I was 16. Minimalism when I was 17. I used to search libararies (no internet! ha!) for this stuff, and look for books, any reference. So I would have really freaked with "the Wire" when I was a teen. I would have completely flipped out. But instead, it was, "why are you putting screws in the piano?" "Why do you keep playing that phrase over and over?" It would have been my teen bible. Blasphemy!

Gage-o, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bailey was my first teen love. I had Bailey records I loved when I was 17. I had Braxton records I hated, but only because even then I knew that one Tony Braxton is as ass as another [Toni Braxton]. I saw Jemeel Moondoc play, I would've saved up for the Charley Patton (but not the Merz)box if it had come out when I was 17. Even when I was 17, I would've told you the only discs worth a damn on this list are the Patton, Fennesz, NNCK, Acid Mothers Temple, Fushitsusha, and Feldman. I graduated from the Wire (not that I ever thought it was good, it was always too trendy yet too dry, eager to be both and too eager on the whole). I'm not in the habit of distrusting/disliking my first love, I'm just not so eager anymore. The Patton box is the only thing on this list I'd like to listen to, but Duran Duran records offer better value for money.

Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If putting Bjork on the cover means there's at least one decent music magazine in circulation in central Indiana, so be it.

I'm 17. My first love was Radiohead. I'm ready for Bailey now.

Keiko, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If putting Bjork on the cover means there's at least one decent music magazine in circulation in central Indiana, so be it.

keiko nails it. i wonder why it was so hard and spotty to find the wire @ tower in the days when evan parker and tony conrad were on the cover...

otis is like one of robin c's snarky creations without the conceptual slight-of-hand enjoyment factor.

jess, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The first album, the first music I fell in love with was Smiths/Oasis/blur and especially Pulp ('94-95).

It's not that I graduated to music that's more important (Braxton/bailey, etc.). To me, Different class and For Alto speak to the heart in the same way.

And if there is a really record with great songs on it, then bring it on. The only difference is that this stuff is more obscure and I quite like the wire to put some of it on the cover. It wouldn't hurt. (But this is coming from someone who doesn't know anything abt selling magazines, so I'll shut up).

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thank you, dave q. I'm glad I'm not the only person who feels ignorant and out-of-it (and, consequently, curious) when I see these lists of records I've never heard, let alone a chorus of people saying "oh, how predictable." (Like a list that includes Jay-Z, Morton Feldman, the Velvets, and David S. Ware is predictable and boring.) I'm sincerely curious: Does everyone here buy records as soon as they come out? How do you find out about that much (usually non-mainstream) music that quickly? And if you do buy over 50 new albums a year, do you also buy old classic records that give you some historical perspective on the new stuff? I may have bought 5 or 6 albums released in 2001 this year. (I liked 3.) Mostly I've been catching up on 1999 and 2000 albums, not to say anything of how much 60s, 70s, and 80s music I've been catching up on. (Actually, I've been catching up on a lot of early 20th century music this year as well.) There's no way I could make a list of my top 15 albums of the year because I haven't heard that many, let alone heard enough albums that I could make a meaningful choice of 15 that stand out from the pack. And usually it takes me some time before I really know how highly I rate a record in comparison to other things.

Of the records I've heard from this list, I'm starting to feel like I should really give Fennesz another listen. It didn't make that huge an impression when I heard it, though I didn't mind it. But I was hardly listening closely. I don't like So Addictive very much though I'm quite fond of Supa Dupa Fly. We Love Life is shit by any standard. I'm still on the fence about Run Come Save Me.

The three albums I liked from this year:

Ryoji Ikeda's Matrix: This is really a stupendous work. I'm amazed the Wire doesn't list this. The first disc is a very accomplished impressive resonant drone piece that is immaculately and subtly structured with very highly developed drift properties. The second disc is a an epic of sparse subtle beats that flow perfectly.

Alva Noto's Transform: More pop than Ikeda but just as finely crafted, with the clicks, bubbling tones, and drones arranged flawlessly.

Vincent Courtois/Marc Ducret/Dominique Pifarely - The Fitting Room: I just bought this yesterday but it seems like a substantial disc of improv featuring cello, guitars, and violin that move through moments of sparseness, scrapes, melody, noise, tension, and tenderness.

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm kind of with Dave Q - the problem is (as has been pointed out on every thread) that you know what to expect from a given publication's year-end list and then you're disappointed when you get it. If FT had polled a list it would have had Daft Punk, Jay-Z, the Piano Magic compilation, a bunch of pop singles and no doubt Tool fairly near the top and everyone whould have thought "oh how predictable" though less people would have said it because they're polite.

I bought about 30-35 new albums this year. About the same number as usual - I bought a lot more albums in total but most of them were old ones. I liked a higher number of those than normal.

I don't usually do an end-of-year list but this year I have to so I'll write it up and post it either on FT or here and you can all yawn at me. All my favourite albums are very predictable and most of them are on the NMEs list too.

Tom, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hey, I never noticed that letter in The Wire was *our* Jess before. Absolutely spot on.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Does everyone here buy records as soon as they come out? How do you find out about that much (usually non-mainstream) music that quickly? And if you do buy over 50 new albums a year, do you also buy old classic records that give you some historical perspective on the new stuff? I may have bought 5 or 6 albums released in 2001 this year. (I liked 3.) Mostly I've been catching up on 1999 and 2000 albums, not to say anything of how much 60s, 70s, and 80s music I've been catching up on"

Thanks Sundar. Probably the most sensible posting on ILM this year. Even the conscientious and dedicated fan with a decent sized disposable income and a good quantity of leisure time will always be catching up. There's albums from 1994 Wire/Melody Maker/NME/Select end of year polls that I'm still waiting to get and listen to. You can only hear so much if you're not sad and stuck in the bedroom all year round. With so many polls and sources of recommendation nowadays you can only dip n' pick with the restrictions on money and time. It only now seems realistic to choose the 1998 or 99 poll!!! Anyway, Happy New Year to all you guys. I love this site.

David Gunnip, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think it's always better to take lists like these as lists of suggestions, stuff that if you have the time you should give a listen, not stuff that if you don't know about you're completely lame and not with-it. The Wire IS ridiculously obscure, and I don't even pretend to know about half the records it reviews. Plus it's expensive as hell in the states--good thing I work at a bookstore when I'm home on break and my roommate has a subscription.

Something is vaguely troubling to me about the above "graduating into/out of" Wire-esque music comments. I can't quite put my finger on it right now, but I don't feel like that's the way individuals' tastes and listening habits really work.

Another thing: I love the Wire, but sometimes it seems so goddamn mild-mannered; sometimes I just want to read a rant, a complete dismissal of something, a flaming bit of ferocity--ANYthing but the even-handed, curatorial, detached, subtly self-congratulatorily eclectic tone that a lot of the reviews take.

Clarke B., Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wouldn't say there are never any reviews that aren't mild mannered in the Wire, but I do know what you mean about the tone of the magazine. It's not just the reviews either: all too often features get bogged down in historic overviews of artists' works as well. This makes it a fine magazine as a source of yer cold facts and cooly distanced criticism but it rarely contains writing I can get really excited about. It's as though there's an editorial policy discouraging anything personal or even that enthusiastic from getting into pieces. It's very rare that you get the sense of a writer really trying to work through why a track or album or artist works for them, something that Josh K for example does brilliantly. I dunno, maybe I've been spoiled by Freaky Trigger and co, but reading The Wire recently has felt like much more of a chore than it should be.

RickyT, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

did you read the article on 'micro house' ? that shit was hilarious.

chaki, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

and why exactly was "that shit" hilarious?

jess, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"It's as though there's an editorial policy discouraging anything personal or even that enthusiastic from getting into pieces." Mph. The "complete" Attali/Bangs piece (which admittedly needed much work) was (I thought) much funnier and thus clearer (Tom and Marcello have seen it, Tom said yes funny, Marcello yes somewhat clearer) than the edit, which I have to take SOME responsibility for, but nevertheless had to deliver in a VERY SHORT TIME after they had sat on the original for several months. I know these things happen, and usually aren't calculated etc, but it's irritating when you write a big long piece covering a lot of ideas, and then chop it back, and then have to read snarky letters in subsequent issues saying you're an idiot for not discussing x, y, and z when it was NOT YOUR IDEA TO LEAVE x, y OR Z ON THE CUTTING ROOM FLOOR. Pfff.

However since there is nothing worse than former editors constantly leaning in to say, "You know, you should be doing it THIS way," I try not to dwell on such things. They have kept it going and it makes a profit: which was EMPHATICALLY NOT THE CASE when I ran that odd little ship.

I still maintain that The Wire is a magazine you arrive at *after* you have decided (rightly or wrongly) that other mags have something wrong with what they cover, or how they cover it.

mark s, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, MS, here's my history.

As well you know, I grew up as a kid/teen with Bailey, Cecil T, Tippett/McGregor axis and Carla Bley (up to Escalator at least) as my idols, and may very well have been indirectly responsible for the Wire starting in the first place. Evidence? Well, before '82 and apart from Cook and Lock in NME and maybe Lynden Barber in MM, all we really had was the ghastly Jazz Journal. In early '81 I wrote a vituperative letter to them (I think it was something to do with Eddie Cook - surely no relation to our Richard? - agreeing with Jack Massarik of the Standard dissing improv with the usual squeaky balloons analogy). Not long afterwards, JJ's editor Sinclair Traill died and EC took over with an equally vituperative editorial mentioning my letter and proclaiming that post-Ornette jazz was (a) not jazz; (b) not music; and (c) would find no place in the pages of JJ. A list of offending musicians was appended, including such avant- titans as Woody Shaw, Gary Burton and Art Farmer. Not long after THAT I was in the old Honest Jon's shop in Camden High Street, which at that time was run by a guy called Anthony Wood. I mentioned the JJ affair to him and remarked, "well you really ought to start your own mag, something that will cover Ornette and beyond," and he replied, "Oh I'm working on it, believe me - I've had so many customers come in pissed off with Eddie fucking Cook and his crappy magazine." About a year later the first issue of the Wire appeared, and the rest you know. It started out with a specific brief but subsequently expanded. But, in its presumed role as a beacon for those too old to listen to S Club 7/read the NME, does the Wire differ in essence from, say, Mojo, and does that difference give it the moral/aesthetic advantage?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

First issue of Wire I bought = '100 greatest jazz albs' cover feature (w/Dolphy's 'Out To Lunch' @ No. 1). Became a regular reader when:

a) Forced Exposure finished

b) The Wire (thanx to Cook/Sinker) moved away from exclusive jazz content and began to feature many of the same acts as FE (eg Fushitsusha, Derek Bailey etc etc) - coincidence?

c) NME, Melody Maker gave up on most music outside the indie-pop remit

d) Q began to define the 'adult' pop mag.

Still don't know of another music mag that covers improv, glitch, dub, modern classical etc. etc. in anything like the same detail. And I'm sort've glad The Wire doesn't have a 'position' or 'aesthetic' - it assumes a certain amount of listener promiscuity...

Andrew L, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes - i find the wire has a position whaich is really lame & conservative in the face of what it pertains to do "adventures in modern music" - ferchrissakes that'd just mean jonny laptop's new cdrom & his press release, whoever has blown o'rourke that given month & the usual rotating carousel of chicago overground boredom, bailey, haino, SY, AT, e parker, "critical beats " perlease!!!, dub (fair enough actually!), mego, more &more obscurant snobbery pointless hyperbole & teary eyed wistful reminiscing over GODAWFUL 70s german rock bands & shit 80s industrial shite etc etc. where's tom smith, eugene chadbourne's charming raconteurism & more adventurous journalism? s.london's 20 yr strong brain of morbius? bill orcutt's current activities? asking tatsuya yoshida WHY? on the whole magma thing? it may be "modern" music but it's an old fogeys' way of reporting on iy. grand royal for instance despite smug beastiesness is charming & funny & addresses an equally widerange of music. likewise maximum rock n roll is more likely to mention harry pussy or caroliner than the wire who will doubtless be mentioning AMM AGAIN. what peeved me in the magazine i love to read cos of its sheer infuriatingness (see - why i watch ally mcbeal) is stuff as BLAND and UNCOMMUNICATIVE as tortoise's "standards" and fennesz;' "endless summer" make it into various lists - i mean what next? ozric tentacles??????

bob snoom, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

HONOUR THE TENTACLES

N., Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The writing is exceptionally unadventurous, I think. Their line with me when they are spiking pieces = "But mark we didn't know what you were on about..." OK this is prob fair enuff usually, but it is still a peculiar un-faced-up-to tension. Again I wd maintain the uncut bangs piece was (implicitly) ABOUT this problem, which is why i wuz despondent at how i wuz asked to cut it.

Esp as afterwards everyone STILL said "That was incomprehensible gobbledygook mark":

mark s, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Annoying things about The Wire these days:

1. Smugness. Excessive use of phrases like "the extraordinary musical universe that falls under the Wire's purview"

2. Predictability. What was once a very diverse remit (they even used to write about soul music, once upon a time) has narrowed into a little niche of the universe marked out as the Wire's own. Ironically, as the range narrows, they wave the banner of their difference ever more furiously.

3. Adolescent masculinity. Magazine reads like an auto-mechanic's journal; letters page confirms that it is reaching its intended audience of anal gearheads. I always laugh when they wheel out Louise Gray for the token female artist review.

Ben Williams, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i liked the way they nixed the "the wire" t-shirt advert chick simply cos peoples said it were sexcist to have her there an assumption that relies on the establishment that wire readers are in general spoddy over intellectual music snobs who probably don't have girlfriends and are social spazzes (i know i am!!). of course an implied diss like that can't be had by the bods at the wire so they nixed her (or maybe they nixed the t shirt- that doesn't help my point, though) - the wire IS male, humourless, anal retentive, and non exploratory. they could at least admit to it. "the wire" bikini ad next issue. it'd be the same old shit journalism "this cd is the second coming of christ because it's unavailable outside of hokkaido and actually will sound very ordinary as will anything listenened to repeatedly". i'd prefer to read seymour glass dissect the output of the carpenters rather than another pseudopoetic ream of shite on something "important" from the likes of biba kopf or david toop.

bob snoom, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

five years pass...

anyone want a pile of back-issues of the wire (free but you'll have to collect, south manchester) ... probably the last five years. if so, e-mail me off-board. d

djh, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

2. Cannibal Ox: The Cold Vein

8. Missy Elliot: Miss E... So Addictive

11. Saul Williams: Amethyst Rock Star

12. Jay-Z: The Blueprint

37. Roots Manuva: Run Come Save Me

38. Buck 65: Man Overboard

44. Aesop Rock: Labor Days

lol 2001

and what, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

I have it on good authority that there will be no living people whatsoever in the 2007 Wire EOY poll.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

x-post

Because now the Wire would fill it with Z-Ro mixtapes and Turf Talk?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

Also, all of those albums totally hold up for me except Saul Williams.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

The Wire has Wiley on the cover this month

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

Now who would have expected that?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

i thought that blog house had replaced rap as the sound of the hip clubs? i'm interested in seeing what rap selections make it this year. uffie??

deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

lil wayne will make it for sure, if he drops a REAL ALBUM

deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

Because now the Wire would fill it with Z-Ro mixtapes and Turf Talk?

-- Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:24 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

betcha this year theres more south/cali rap than the 01 list even tho that was the year of space boogie smoke odyessy and diary of a sinner and concrete law and mista dont play and he think he raw and thugs r us and etc etc etc

and what, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

and 07 is the year of uh rich boy and a shitty young buck album

and what, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

tell me about concrete law
the rest are good yeah, i won't make fun of the casual cd since its actually been awhile since i listened to it and i might have been rong.

deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

i liked most of the young buck! not touching mista don't play or anything though.

you forgot 'face off'

deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

although i guess some of those songs were older

deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

yeah & 'move to mars' is straight up mark sinker wire-ready afrofuturism

and what, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Sounds good but what's it all got to do with hauntology, abandoned plants in Chingford, Stratford fauna, deconstruction of rock, Dead C limited seven-inch mouse droppings, Coil etc.?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://gelandweave.blogspot.com/2005/05/pastor-troy-move-to-mars-1.html

and what, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

thought it was gonna be an old stuffz post

deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

RIP old stuffz

and what, Thursday, 14 June 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

so backbone is dungeon fam affiliated...i am so disconnected from the classic dungeon fam records, love cool breeze and witchdoctor tho

deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

wire's best of '06

01. Burial - Burial
02. Scott Walker - The Drift
03. Joanna Newsom - Ys
04. Carla Bozulich - Evangelista
05. Wolf Eyes - Human Animal
06. Ornette Coleman - Sound Grammar
07. Ekkehard Ehlers - A Life Without Fear
08. Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - The Letting Go
09. Om - Conference Of The Birds
10. Phill Niblock - Touch Three
11. Scritti Politti - White Bread Black Beer
12. Matmos - The Rose Has Teeth In The Mouth Of A Beast
13. Sonic Youth - Rather Ripped
14. Wolf Eyes & Anthony Braxton - Black Vomit
15. The Knife - Silent Shout
16. Christian Wolff - 10 Exercises
17. Keiji Haino & Sitaar Tah! - Animamima
18. Brightblack Morning Light - Brightblack Morning Light
19. Arthur Russell - First Thought Best Thought
20. Broadcast - Future Crayon
21. Niobe - White Hats
22. Grizzly Bear - Yellow House
23. Reanimator - Special Powers
24. Current 93 - Black Ships Ate The Sky
25. Excepter - Alternation
26. Alexander Tucker - Furrowed Brow
27. Gruppo Di Improvvisazione Nuova Consonanza - Azioni
28. Rafael Toral - Space
29. Ghostface Killah - Fishscale
30. MV/EE & The Bummer Road - Mother Of Thousands
31. Wooden Wand & The Vanishing Voice - Gipsy Freedom
32. Celtic Frost - Monotheist
33. Kieran Hebden & Steven Reid - The Exchange Sessions Vols 1 & 2
34. Ran Blake - All That Is Tied
35. Mordant Music - Dead Air
36. Julius Eastman - Unjust Malaise
37. Little Annie - Songs From The Coalmine Canary
38. Ruff Sqwad - Guns And Roses Volume 2
39. Volcano The Bear - Classic Erasmus Fusion
40. Leopard Leg - The Seven Sistered Sea-Secret Of Shh Shh Shh
41. Harlassen - A Way Now
42. Text Of Light - Metal Box
43. Peaches - Impeach My Bush
44. Robert Ashley - Foreign Experiences
45. Charalambides - A Vintage Burden
46. Peter Evans - More Is More
47. Sunn O))) & Boris - Altar
48. Dabrye - Two/Three
49. Chris Corsano - The Young Cricketer
50. Josephine Foster - A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing

deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

i think you've overstated the impact rap's made on critics recently

deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

the wire scorns postmodernism in rock music unless it's like richard youngs doing "prog" or something, amirite?

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

total rockism

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

are you confusing postmodernism and irony?

ian, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

no.

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, the significant thing about rock bands moving away from the modernist impulse into postmodernism was not that it was ironic that they were a contemporary band playing this old style or that and identifying themselves completely with particular styles. the styles themselves were the significant things.

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)


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