― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:26 (twenty years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:29 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:30 (twenty years ago)
(By rights, the best bit of this thread should be when Adam has to explain to Jess who Pat Butcher is, but I don't think its going to happen)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:31 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:35 (twenty years ago)
― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:40 (twenty years ago)
― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago)
the shystie album was a dissapointment to me - too glossy and too much gleaming neo-blandite 'urban' music.
ive heard wiley saying stuff like roll deeps album will be for the mainstream, meanwhile hell keep doing stuff on the underground. dont know how true/feasible that would turn out to be though.
― splooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 12:22 (twenty years ago)
― themizzle, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 12:48 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago)
there r a few atrocities, 'heartache avenue' AAAHHH STR8 TO HELL WITH U, not all the rnb cutups come off but when they do they r totally gorgeous: 'questions', 'the rain', 'no more'. ground zero vocal sounds suddenly v good too. i esp luv track 17 with the flute, heavy! ('show you'?) the penultimate indian banger is lazy arse tho. as an lp, i dunno, there's a flabby compilation feel to it (20 tracks?)that saps the implied grit to the gloss, but i dunno its still not so capital p poppy like u make out. couldve done with more taliban trim too balancewise
― candour floss (mwah), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago)
― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 13:23 (twenty years ago)
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago)
I don't think its as bad as Toby does, but it could really do with being shorn of at least four or five of the slower tracks, and I wanted to hear more of the rapid fire garage-tempo stuff where the MCs all bounce off one another. Poltergeist sounds amazing when it appears and then the speed drops right off again. Also there's nowhere enough Jamaka-B on this record.
The best slow ones are Track 7 (the one with the twinkly 80s soul synths and the helium vocal), 11 (easy listening piano sample) and especially 16 which is like Sexual Healing grime.
Yeah, Heartache Avenue is an abomination but Shake A Leg works brilliantly I think.
(Anyone got a tracklisting for this?)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 18:58 (twenty years ago)
― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Sunday, 2 January 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
would like this too, all my, ahem, song titles look like >> Track 20-[€µ].mp3 :0)
>would anyone be able to share this? please! im dying to hear it.
slsk, ilm room. loads of ppl have it. pm me if u want my slsk username(s)
on first listen to this i'm mightily impressed. dont expect as has been said a grime/MC fest, this is wiley showing off his production skills and it works brilliantly, very very enjoyable
― bo!ne, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)
nordicskilla on slsk
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)
Also TRACK LISTING KTHXBYE.
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 March 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)
The rnb bits don't work AT ALL when the tempo drops below a certain pace, with the exception of that track with Kano (Good Girl?) and that track with Dizzee on its whose name escapes me.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 6 March 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 6 March 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)
― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Sunday, 6 March 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 6 March 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 6 March 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)
― ppp, Monday, 7 March 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)
― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)
― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)
― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)
this is wicked!
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)
>> Roll Deep, the crew that brought you Dizzee Rascal and Wiley are now>> releasing their debut album, In At The Deep End, out on May 9th.
>> 1. Intro>> 2. Flying Away>> 3. Bus Stop>> 4. Show You>> 5. Let It Out>> 6. The Avenue (Debut Single)>> 7. Be Careful>> 8. When I'm 'Ere>> 9. Shake A Leg>> 10. Remember The Day>> 11. People Don't Know>> 12. Heat Up>> 13. Good Girl>>
― Chris Houghton (chrish), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
― Victor Mackulous (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)
― Victor Mackulous (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)
― Victor Mackulous (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
Are the ones that don't seem familiar to me.
Can't believe that atrocious Heartache Avenue thing is the debut single, though. Why do grime types have such bad taste in pop?
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)
― Victor Mackulous (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)
― Victor Mackulous (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)
It's a really strong record. Like what I've heard from the Kano record, it's not grimey for the most part, but it works as a pop album-album (and counterpoint to what Wiley seems to be priming for his own album) rather than a hastily arranged collection of singles'n'filler. Still not convinced by "The Avenue", though.
― Chris Houghton (chrish), Sunday, 27 March 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)
― ppp, Sunday, 27 March 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)
I'm presuming Bus Stop is the guitar-organ-funk-Blackalicious thing as well. Likewise, meh. Still don't know what When I'm 'Ere is, although the second half looks much stronger than the first.
Bit disappointed at the lack of that I Will Be Yours tune as well, the one with Wiley over that sped up Sexual Healingesque backing. That was my favourite on the leaked version AND it was a good radio friendly pop tune so maybe Wiley saved it for his second album.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 27 March 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)
there's a really good Danny Weed remix of 'The Avenue'. I'm still too weirded out by the original to actually judge whether I like it or not (on balance I think not).
while I am all for grime artists going for the pop factor, I am a bit wary of them going for the novelty one-hit factor which will be 'The Avwenue's fate if it actually becomes a hit, which it surely will not.
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 27 March 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)
No, it's not. It was the lead track on the promo Relentless 12, though (b/w with "Let It Out" and "Be Careful").
Btw, Alex, Ruff Sqwad have just started on Rinse now if you're back in London.
― Chris Houghton (chrish), Sunday, 27 March 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)
― Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 28 March 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)