The Way It Is

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was written, as far as I know, by Bruce Hornsby, and released by Bruce Hornsby and the Range. I think it was on their LP Scenes From The Southside in 1987 (this could be inaccurate). I don't own it. I bet many people remember it or have a view on it.

the pinefox, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Personally, I think it's tremendous. I imagine (though I don't have the evidence) that Hornsby's particular schtick never before or after came together to such spectacular effect as it did here.

the pinefox, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That album was one of maybe four albums in the world that my Mom and I both enjoyed. It was, at that point in my life, a little odd. Because it was like "hey Gage, listen to this Bruce Hornsby song." and then "hey Mom, listen to this Social Distortion song." But it definately caught my ear for it's rolling beauty.

Gage-o, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

are we honestly discussing bruce hornsby? what's next: "mike and the mechanics, c or d?"

jess, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, I can see why ol' Bruce appeals to the pinefox, Jess, so why not? I can't say I'll actively ever pursue anything Hornsby ever did, but I'll take "The Way It Is" over anything that other Bruce ever recorded with the exception of "Born to Run" (as recorded by Frankie Goes to Hollywood).

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Unfortunately, Jess, the Pinefox likes "The Living Years" ...

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll take "The Way It Is" over anything that other Bruce ever recorded with the exception of "Born to Run" (as recorded by Frankie Goes to Hollywood).

i shall concede this.

Unfortunately, Jess, the Pinefox likes "The Living Years" ...

i'd like to hear derek bailey covering "the living years." that, or carcass.

jess, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd like to hear Bruce Hornsby covering Derik Bailey

Gage-o, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Or Mike and the Mechanics doing a Anthony Braxton composition.

Gage-o, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Who's Derek Bailey? Is he that geezer that Steady Mike likes; or am I mixing him up with Mike Ladd? (Or did I just invent the latter? It seems unlikely.)

It's quite touching that Robin C remembers my affection for that 1988 track. Would still like to see RC's view on the Hornsby song (or would I?).

the pinefox, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually I don't really have a view on "The Way It Is". I don't have anything against it, nor do I find anything particularly moving or resonant about it. My reaction is just ... indifference.

I'm sure we had a thread ages ago which touched on a late 80s UK hip- hop record that sampled "The Way It Is", aeons before Tupac's "Changes" lifted the same track.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In the small town of my birth all the horrible children who had piano lessons would play this, and beam precociously as only middle-class prodigies can. I was encouraged by the parents to hang out with these types because they "were going to be successes". The "Chariots of Fire" theme was popular among this set as well. Every time I hear this song I remember these bright specimens who are now product specialists at the WalMart.

dave q, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm told that Jim O'Rourke loves that song; he's been making noises about recording it for years.

Douglas, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

who's jim o'rourke? does steady mike like him or is that "hacksaw" jim douggan?

the treewolf, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

a late 80s UK hip- hop record that sampled "The Way It Is"

Yeah, what was that? I vaguely remember thinking the same when the Tupas track came out.

'The Way It Is' mainly makes me think of the Capital Radio magazine programme of the same name, which used the song as its theme music. For some reason I associate it with Marc Cohn's 'Walking In Memphis'

N., Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Just a "piano-led American AOR that Gary Davies would have played on that Sunday night show he did c.1992" thing, I think.

I guess we're going to have to search the archives to find that earlier thread. About April this year, I reckon.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There's an amiable bloke I know from a football group who lists 'The Way It Is' as his all-time-favourite piece of music. He also digs Jimmy Nail. The Pinefox's tastes inspire a mixture of awe and horror.

stevo, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The awe! The awe!

the pinefox, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I find the rippling piano style objectionable

David Inglesfield, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The hip-hop record you're talking about is "Never Change" by MC Buzz B, a really prime slice of Mancunian hip-hop miserabilism. I saw him play it live in late '89 and was blown away. The first released version (on his LP) made no sense because they weren't allowed to use the sample. A couple of years later the proper version came out as a single. I love it, although it has that rather dated bouncy late-80s uptempo hip-hop feel which will no doubt become pleasingly vintage before long.

I recall being perplexed when PF mentioned before that he'd heard it on the radio: who (I wondered) would be playing *that*? The existence of a Tupac version kind of explains things. I don't suppose PF would be any more impressed by MC Buzz B than he was by Tupac.

Tim, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Way It Is was okay. "Never Change" was awesome.

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bruce Hornsby: didn't he, like, play with The Grateful Dead for a while, man?

Skullfuck, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yep - one of the few Dead keyboardists to survive the experience, iirc...

Andrew L, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Don't think I know 'Never Change'.

Mr Hopkins is correct to say that I'm unlikely to like any "dance remix" version of this song.

What 'The Way It Is' gives me: poignancy (the Am-G-D-C-G-D-C / type structure; transpose as apt), and freewheeling cool (the G-F-C / type structure, ditto). Probably the latter is slightly better remembered.

Major historical context for reception of this song in 1987: BBC Grandstand, c.4:40pm on a Saturday: scores and pools results being displayed; Desmond Lynam perhaps talking over the changing screens. Yes, this is doubtless one reason I like it so much.

I'm almost starting to think it was 1986, not 1987.

the pinefox, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sorry, PF, but this is perhaps one of the most agonizingly pretentious pieces of garbage I've ever heard. Sounds like Don Henley doing an impression of someone with a conscience. I had a po-faced do- gooder social studies teacher in high school who tremendously earnestly used this song as the basis for a lecture on the effects of apathy. He was really down with the kids, maaaaan. He ended up developing an American Beauty-styled crush on a friend of mine, sending her flowers and talking about leaving his wife for her even though she was 15 and clearly not interested. Creepy old perv. All we could think to do was to key his car. That's just the way it is.

fritz, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I swear the main reason Hornsby made it big was because he was named Bruce at a time when The Boss could do not wrong. People at the time thought, "He writes about the common man and his name is Bruce -- how bad can he be?"

The answer: pretty bad.

Still: I always found the commentary w/ "They passed a law in '64 to give those who ain't got a little more/but it only goes so far/'cause the law don't change another's mind when all it sees at the hiring time/is the line on the color bar" to be perceptive.

Mark, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't actually know the lyric. Will look it up.

the pinefox, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

THE WAY IT IS

Standing in line marking time- Waiting for the welfare dime 'Cause they can't buy a job The man in the silk suit hurries by As he catches the poor ladies' eyes Just for fun he says "get a job"

CHORUS That's just the way it is Some things will never change That's just the way it is But don't you believe them

They say he little boy you can't go Where the others go 'Cause you don't look like they do Said hey old man how can you stand To think that way Did you really think about it Before you made the rules He said, Son

CHORUS

Well they passed a law in '64 To give those who ain't got a little more But it only goes so far Because the law don't change another's mind When all it sees at the hiring time Is the line on the color bar

CHORUS

the pinefox, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Major historical context for reception of this song ... BBC Grandstand, c.4:40pm on a Saturday: scores and pools results being displayed

Now, this might be a trick of my memory, but I swear I first heard Party Fears Two in exactly the same context.

RickyT, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So he's actually saying that things change ALL THE TIME and that we must ignore those who would dissuade us from effecting it! This is one of those songs that sticks in your head but the "don't you believe them" line never stuck - "that's the way it is / some things will never change" is what stays with me. The very message he's agin. Maybe he shouldn't have said that part so soulfully.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

fourteen years pass...


Sorry, PF, but this is perhaps one of the most agonizingly pretentious pieces of garbage I've ever heard. Sounds like Don Henley doing an impression of someone with a conscience. I had a po-faced do- gooder social studies teacher in high school who tremendously earnestly used this song as the basis for a lecture on the effects of apathy. He was really down with the kids, maaaaan. He ended up developing an American Beauty-styled crush on a friend of mine, sending her flowers and talking about leaving his wife for her even though she was 15 and clearly not interested. Creepy old perv. All we could think to do was to key his car. That's just the way it is.

― fritz, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink

lol

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 05:16 (ten years ago)

Were you watching Colbert last night?

Evan, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 14:36 (ten years ago)

both fritz and pinefox have their own personal Major historical context for reception of this song ...

andrew m., Wednesday, 24 February 2016 17:21 (ten years ago)

xpost

yes!

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 23:47 (ten years ago)

i have to say in its creamcheesy way, the conscience or a simulacrum thereof comes through, and that aint nothing.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 23:50 (ten years ago)

Xpost

I have to admit I started thinking about this song for a bit after I heard them playing it, too.

Evan, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:37 (ten years ago)


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