'phaedra' by tangerine dream is fucking awesome

i mean if Gas - Pop can be compared to new age, maybe i can dig this too. hmm, maybe i'd even like "actual" new age, if i could get around the lame/flaky connotations of the genre title.

maybe not though. i probably won't find out soon.

haha "the Tangs"

lo-fi audience recordings, this is anthropology. fanatics only, and I'm probably not a fanatic, but as the years go by I'm increasingly partial towards nearly all the 70's synth records, so it's interesting to hear the unedited tapes of TD playing pure formless wanky space music for 60-90 minute stretches to huge, maniacally cheering crowds. a lot of supposedly underground electronic still sounds like what these guys were playing in the Royal Albert Hall thirty years ago.

you can hear textures and sequences that ended up on the albums, but otherwise they're admirably live & winging it, even if the form is somewhat predictable; 10-30 minute mellotron warmup then turn the sequencer on for the next 20-60. large parts of set three ended up on Ricochet but they left off some of the best bits of burning brain.

set one the sequencer never turns on, it's just space. set seven's quite listenable.

Revive!

Listening to Phaedra today, your description really makes me want that, Jon.

$37 used on Amazon.

haven't listened to it since posting that. maybe someday I'll check out disc one again.

these I like much better than anything on that box: http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/02/tangerine_dream.html

Cologne 11.25.1972 - WDR-FM recording sounds better to me than any of their early studio records

Listening now to Cologne -- it is quite good, mos. def. Sound quality is ok, not great.

I have this and have never listened to it. Now I will.

DL'd Rubycon, Ricochet and Stratosphere as well. Rubycon seems the strongest at first blush, tho moments seem directly lifted by the likes of The Orb.

Jon, I've only listened to some of Cologne -- do you mean you like it more than everything prePhaedra? I loved Zeit back in the day and am a little cooler to the space rock-ness of Atem and Alpha Centauri...

$37 used on Amazon.

Christ!!! I bought this for 4 bucks a month ago (at a very cool record shop in Northampton, Mass.)

and it is an awesome, awesome record. All those early-mid 70s TD albums are fantastic, I think.

oh sorry - I think they were talking about the bootleg album mentioned upthread as being $37, not the regular Phaedra LP

bought it for 2,50 in the used crates at my local record shop.

I put this on the turntable the night I lost my virginity. She made me change the record.

movements of a missionary

I put on Phaedra earlier this month and was pleasantly surprised - I've got a buddy that's a hardcore ACDC/hardrock/powermetal fan, but loves his TD - never saw the connection myself - but you know what? - In their own way these guys have the rock ...

these guys musta had hella bad trips

fantastic group/solo project

Man, this is the saddest, loneliest thing I've ever heard

it is so good

Zeit makes Phaedra sound like happy hardcore

well timed revive.
due to the change in weather (TD are the perfect soundtrack to a dark and grey day), today i listened to rubycon, stratosphere, and encore.
and there is a very strong chance that tomorrow i will get the last of the virgin era releases that i dont have, thief.
also, somewhat tempted by the official bootleg boxset that i believe is a revised version of the boxset that jon links to further upthread.
but i am fearful of the recording quality for them, as i am not one for crowd recorded bootlegs to be honest.

Yeah I used to have actual nightmares about Zeit, I would be in a large brick made space that was very, very high, like a version of the turbine hall at the Tate Modern and Zeit would be booming out over a huge PA system attached high up on the walls and angled down, it was horrible.

That's a nightmare?

Thief / Tangram era is still good. Logos is the latest I've gone, is there anything worth hearing post-1982 or so?

Funny, I was just reading about this album. I guess part of its sound - or part of one song - had to do with the tendency of the temperature sensitive oscillators to go out of tune. Which is funny, because in that prog book I was just reading about Keith Emerson complaining about the exact same thing. He'd have to factor tuning his synths into all the other shit he had to do on stage.

zeit, man, just the fuckin' cellos at the beginning

after that not a lot - White Eagle, Poland, Green Desert (although that's reworked mid 70s stuff) and a track or two off Underwater Sunlight. The rest is extremely spotty to outright "why am I listening to this"

xposts to Matt

was going to suggest White Eagle as well.
if you like Logos, then WE is totally in the same sweet spot.
been many years since i heard Poland (chrome long play cassette up in the attic), but i do recall loving it.
need to track down the proper reissue with the complete concert on it as opposed to truncated version.

I love the Risky Business soundtrack sooooo much. What other Tangerine Dream albums (or bootlegs) sound like it?

I remember quite liking Optical Race (from 1988) back in the day. Afraid to give it a spin in case my recollection doesn't match up to the reality.

also, if you like the more ambient side to mid 70s - early 80s sound of TD, then the solo albums by EF are an excellent addition to your collection for when you need more :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/1974-1983-Virgin-Years-Edgar-Froese/dp/B007JU5HSO/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1506589860&sr=1-1&keywords=edgar+froese

Put that Froese box set on my wishlist, thanks for the tipoff mark e.

there are also a ton of boots of the soundtrack to The Keep, all of which are much better than the "Original Soundtrack" they released much later. If you like Logos, which the movie uses liberally, you'll want to check it out.

been listening a bunch to the "50 Years of Phaedra" live album from earlier this year. call me crazy but it might be the best Tangerine Dream live album there is. they do one set that's the full Phaedra album but with the tracklisting reversed. but its not quite like the original album and it's definitely not like those crappy remixes Froese made later in life. "Mysterious Semblence" goes into this long improv section which absolutely rules, they weave a lot of the themes and sounds of the original album in and out of it. when the title track actually shows up about an hour in its really cool. then there's a second set that's a mix of old and new stuff and that's amazing too. all the tracks from Raum are incredible. feel like if I could attend any TD show in history it might actually be this one.

also pretty funny story in the liner notes about how the original was made. apparently the Moog was very unpredictable and any cool sounds you got out of it proved nearly impossible to reproduce. Franke came up with that sequenced melody which Froese thought was so cool he ran in to physically restrain him so he couldn't touch any more knobs.

It’s bizarre that this current ship of Theseus is the best one since Froese/Franke/Baumann, but it is

19 year belated lol and kudos to Bernard Snowy’s reply to me. A+