i) Pan Sonic/Charlemagne Palestine - Mort aux Vaches
ii) Nagamani Srinath - Sunada
iii) Kid606 - Down With the Scene
iv) Efzeg - Grain
v) Immersion - Low Impact
― sundar subramanian, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andy K., Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
1. Lifter Puller: Fiestas + Fiascos (Frenchkiss) 21 2. OutKast: Stankonia (LaFace/Arista) 17 3. Luomo: Vocalcity (Forcetracks) 15 4. Quasimoto: The Unseen (Stone's Throw) 8 5. Rancid (Hellcat) 8 6. Lucy Pearl (Pookie) 7 7. Green Velvet (F-111) 6 8. James Carter: Chasin' the Gypsy (Atlantic) 6 9. Spring Heel Jack: Treader (Thirsty Ear) 6 10. Mouse on Mars: Niun Niggung (Thrill Jockey) 6
I stand by the top three, but I'd order them differently now: if anything, Vocalcity has only gained in stature for me, while I don't play Lifter Puller that much and OutKast stays about the same. For some reason I chickened out on voting for the Matthew Herbert mix- CD, dunno why; a friend who votes had it third on an early draft and eventually dropped it from his top ten as well, possibly because I gave him a hard time for it; turns out he was righter than I was. (Not the first time, either. Grrr.) The Rancid was very much a heated- moment kind of record: I played it all the time for a few weeks and haven't touched it since. Neutral Milk Hotel's In the Aeroplane Over the Sea was like that, too, and I voted P&J for it. If I were to redo the '98 ballot, I'd still vote for it, but I wouldn't vote for Rancid, not right now, anyway. At the time I was sorry I ended up putting SHJ and MoM on my list, partly because they weren't "real" 2000 albums (imports from '99), and in the latter case partly because it was a shade too flimsy for a "real" top ten album. Also, the point distribution seems weird: no fives (the minimum for P&J voting)--and a lot of records that I wasn't all that comfortable voting for to begin with. Weird. The most surprising dropoff, and it's a close call, was Green Velvet, which I love but ultimately don't play that much--and frequency of plays is a lot of how I'm deciding this one.
Then there's records that you don't pick up on till after the year's over. In my case, D'Angelo and Queens of the Stone Age were two that, respectively, grew on me a lot and I didn't hear till February. There is a great deal to be said about the whole first-on-your-block mentality that pervades rock criticism: it tends to deafen us to records sometimes because we didn't hear them before the rest of the pack, or along with them. That's not always true, but I think it happens a lot more often than anyone likes to admit, including myself. For me, Voodoo was good but not great--deeply flawed, boring, overly repetitive, choose your own excuse--and for whatever reason I just never got a copy of R till '01. Turns out I was wrong on both. (And PJ Harvey I still don't get--sorry. I like it, I love her, seeing her at Hammerstein this fall was one of the transcendent concertgoing experiences of my life, but it still hasn't quite turned me into a raving fan of the album--still feel overly cautious about it, and I don't think I'm wrong here.) Eminem is pretty amazing, all right, but it never grabbed me emotionally or intellectually the way I wanted it to.
That said, here's how I'd vote now for 2000 if given the chance:
1. Luomo: Vocalcity (Forcetracks) 22 2. Lifter Puller: Fiestas + Fiascos (Frenchkiss) 18 3. OutKast: Stankonia (LaFace/Arista) 13 4. Lucy Pearl (Pookie) 10 5. Matthew Herbert: Globus Mix no. 5: Let's All Make Mistakes (Tresor) 10 6. Quasimoto: The Unseen (Stone's Throw) 7 7. James Carter: Chasin' the Gypsy (Atlantic) 5 8. Spring Heel Jack: Treader (Thirsty Ear) 5 9. D'Angelo: Voodoo (Virgin) 5 10. Queens of the Stone Age: R (Interscope) 5
― M. Matos, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
1) The Avalanches - Since I Left You 2) Jay-Z - The Life & Times Of Sean Carter 3) Outkast - Stankonia 4) V/A: Shanks & Bigfoot - Ayia Napa, The Album 5) Kelis - Kaleidoscope 6) Pink - Can't Take Me Home 7) Piano Magic - Artists' Rifles 8) Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele 9) Radiohead - Kid A 10) Lil' Kim - The Notorious K.I.M.
Now:
Most changes were due to buying new stuff in 2001 - I still really like Lil' Kim, Ghostface Killah and Piano Magic, but not everything can fit. I would have demoted The Avalanches to second place after Luomo, but I listened to the album today for the first time in ages and the romance is still there.
― Tim, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Records I overrated - Go-Betweens, Kirsty MacColl, Kelis, Le Tigre
Records I underrated - Broadcast, Daphne And Celeste, Jay-Z, Outkast, Ghost Face Killah
Records I rated about right - Eminem, Radiohead, Queens Of The Cockfarming Age
Records I STILL haven't heard - Pram, Boredoms
― Tom, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave k, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Best of 2000 =
Lloyd Cole, The Negatives: assez magnifique
U2, All That You Can't Leave Behind, for something's sake; even some of the chartpopkidz liked it.
6ths, Hyacinths & Thistles, despite the bad bits
Belle and Sebastian, FYHCYLLAP; feeble, but still beats other comers
oh, well, Cure, Bloodflowers, for farewell's sake.
No, nothing has changed, naturally. And scanning this thread has given me no new ideas.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mark, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― james, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Currently: records of 2000 would probably include Primal Scream, Jimi Tenor, "The Genius of Bertrand Burgalat", Kelis ("Caught Out There" single), Common, Ghostface Killah, Low & Spring Heel Jack ("Bombscare" EP), Rui da Silva (single), Eminem ("Stan" single) and maybe Kid606.
― Jeff W, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
1. The Marshall Mathers LP: always liked it but didn't really understand it until Kogan's piece for Pazz & Jop; then the album tracks started sounding (almost) as good as the singles => masterpiece.
2. Stories from the City...: #4 in my 2000 list, saw Polly live in Jan '01, was incredible & I realised the album was even better than I had thought.
3. Sonic Youth - nyc ghosts & flowers: again always liked it, later started playing "Free City Rhymes" over & over again so that now it's my fave SY track; and on the back of it this album shot up my list.
4. Stankonia: #2 in my 2000 list but it now seems simply too long; always stop it after "B.O.B."
5. Wu-Tang - The W: only heard this in '01, no weak tracks and Isaac Hayes.
6. Aimee Mann - Bachelor No. 2: #1 in 2000; flaws in pacing seem obvious now but "Ghost World" beats the comic if not the movie.
7. Blackalicious - NIA: #3 in 2002, hasn't so much slipped as others have overtaken it.
8. XTRMNTR: Was in my top 10; still like it no matter what any of you say.
9. King Kapisi - Savage Thoughts: Only local in my top 10 then and now; liked him at first simply for being a Samoan atheist and daring to try to convert listeners; still holds up well for me now.
10. Sleater-Kinney - All Hands: Still don't like it as much as their others; still no reason to stop calling them the world's greatest.
― B.Rad (Brad), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― , Wednesday, 11 December 2002 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)
Albums:1-The Cure:Bloodflowers2-Rage Against The Machine:Renegades3-Ryan Adams:Heartbreaker4-Gurus’ Jazzmaztaz:Streetsoul5-Dan Hicks & The Hot Licks:Beatin’ The Heart6-The Magnetic Fields:69 Love Songs7-Silence 4:Only Pain Is Real8-Pearl Jam:Binaural9-Queens Of The Stone Age:Rated R10-Day One:Ordinary Man
Singles:1-Eminem:The Real Slim Shady2-U2:Beautiful Day3-Rage Against The Machine:Sleep Now In The Fire4-Bruce Springsteen:American Skin5-Silence 4:To Give6-Eminem & Dido:Stan7-Day One:In Your Life8-All Saints:Black Coffee9-Oasis:Go Let It Out10-AC/DC:Stiff Upper Lip
NOW:
Albums:1-Ryan Adams:Heartbreaker2-The Cure:Bloodflowers3-Guru's Jazzmatazz:Streetsoul4-The Magnetic Fields:69 Love Songs5-Smog:Dongs Of Sevotion6-Pearl Jam:Binaural7-Outkast:Stankonia8-Silence 4:Only Pain Is Real9-Lou Reed:Ecstasy10-Johnny Cash:Solitary Man
Singles:1-Eminem:The Real Slim Shady2-U2:Beautiful Day3-Rage Against The Machine:Sleep Now In The Fire4-Outkast:Ms.Jackson5-De La Soul & Redman:Ooh6-Beck:Mixed Biznezz7-Kelis:Caught Out There8-Oasis:Go Let It Out9-The Gourds:Gin & Juice10-All Saints:Black Coffee
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― boo berry (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 30 September 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)
― chap who would dare to contain two ingredients. Tea and bags. (chap), Saturday, 30 September 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 30 September 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)
Ryan Adams - HeartbreakerBlonde Redhead - Melody of Certain Damaged LemonsBroadcast - The Noise Made by PeopleCat Power - The Covers RecordModest Mouse - The Moon and AntarcticaPJ Harvey - Stories from the City, Stories from the SeaPrimal Scream - XTRMNTRRadiohead - Kid AThe Smashing Pumpkins - Machina/The Machines of God (SHUT UP)Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out
Honorable mentions:
Arab Strap - Elephant ShoeBlack Rebel Motorcycle Club - BRMCThe Clientele - Suburban LightThe New Pornographers - Mass RomanticQueens of the Stone Age - R
― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Saturday, 30 September 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)
Shiina Ringo - Shouso Strip
― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 30 September 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)
My top ten of 2000 at a glance, in no particular order:Ryan Adams - HeartbreakerBlonde Redhead - Melody of Certain Damaged LemonsBroadcast - The Noise Made by PeopleCat Power - The Covers RecordModest Mouse - The Moon and AntarcticaPJ Harvey - Stories from the City, Stories from the SeaPrimal Scream - XTRMNTRRadiohead - Kid AThe Smashing Pumpkins - Machina/The Machines of God (SHUT UP)Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-OutHonorable mentions:Arab Strap - Elephant ShoeBlack Rebel Motorcycle Club - BRMCThe Clientele - Suburban LightThe New Pornographers - Mass RomanticQueens of the Stone Age - R― (Stephen B.), Saturday, September 30, 2006 10:23 AM (4 years ago)
― (Stephen B.), Saturday, September 30, 2006 10:23 AM (4 years ago)
new top ten - not a lot of time for the records above these days, but the bolded ones i'll stick by:
erykah badu - mama's gunboris - floodbroadcast - the noise made by peopledamon & naomi with ghost - s/tghostface killah - supreme clientelepj harvey - stories from the city, stories from the seaoutkast - stankoniaradiohead - kid aqueens of the stone age - rated rsmashing pumpkins - machina/the machines of god
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Sunday, 31 July 2011 04:34 (fourteen years ago)
kid amama's gunhigh on fire - the art of self-defensewhite stripes - de stijlthe fall - the unutterableclinic - internal wranglersupreme clientelequasimoto - the unseenacid mothers temple - la noviaboris - floodOOIOO - green and golddeftones - white pony
― monogalomaniacal (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 31 July 2011 04:51 (fourteen years ago)
man flood is so good
― 69, Sunday, 31 July 2011 04:56 (fourteen years ago)
Drugs A Money's list is like my honorable mentions list... clinic, HoF, acid mo's, quasimoto (this was my #11 had to cut it...), deftones, ooioo.....
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Sunday, 31 July 2011 04:59 (fourteen years ago)
two things i forgot: Godspeed's Lift Your Skinny Fists and Melt Banana's Teeny Shiny
not really a fan of rated r or stankonia, not interested in machina, but desperately need to listen to the damon & naomi/ghost and broadcast, also electric wizard's dopethrone, trans am's the red line, ween's white pepper, anco's spirit they're gone, joan of arc's the gap, circle's prospekt, orange goblin's big black, phoenix's united, sea & cake's oui, and on and on and on...
― monogalomaniacal (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 31 July 2011 05:15 (fourteen years ago)
machina is total 9th grade nostalgia trip... still love it tho
dopethrone, the red line, spirit they're gone all great. don't care much for ween or phoenix. havent heard the others. i dig the circle records i've heard a lot, should track that one down ^^
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Sunday, 31 July 2011 05:22 (fourteen years ago)
Internal wrangler is pretty much perfect.
― gardener by day, gatekeeper by night (blank), Sunday, 31 July 2011 05:37 (fourteen years ago)
i'm prolly the only person alive who thinks Winchester Cathedral is their high mark
Wrangler's nice too i guess
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Sunday, 31 July 2011 05:39 (fourteen years ago)
I love machina. machina 2 is getting an official release soon, right?
― gardener by day, gatekeeper by night (blank), Sunday, 31 July 2011 05:40 (fourteen years ago)
Wrangler is just loose amd no filler and I don't know, perfect
― gardener by day, gatekeeper by night (blank), Sunday, 31 July 2011 05:42 (fourteen years ago)
^
― shastakrautpasta (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 31 July 2011 06:10 (fourteen years ago)
of recent posts, seconding: Primal Scream, Broadcast, Modest Mouse, PJ Harvey, Radiohead, Arab Strap, Yo La Tengo, Clientele, New Porns, Clinic, Outkast, Godspeed, Ghostface, Boris
adding: Delgados - The Great EasternThe Kingbury Manx - s/tPhotek - SolarisTeenage Fanclub - Howdy!MF Doom - Operation DoomsdayGrandaddy - The Sophtware SlumpDr. Dre - Dr. Dre 2001Laika - Good Looking BluesDoves - Lost SoulsCrooked Fingers - Crooked Fingers
My listening was woefully indie-centric at the time, but 2000 was actually a great year for that imo!
― notes on camping (Pillbox), Sunday, 31 July 2011 06:30 (fourteen years ago)
Two Lone Swordsmen - Tiny Reminders
― Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Sunday, 31 July 2011 09:23 (fourteen years ago)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61tMH%2Bv1HeL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
^^albums that changed your life
― lex pretend, Sunday, 31 July 2011 10:27 (fourteen years ago)
also
erykah badu - mama's gunlil kim - the notorious k.i.m.mya - fear of flyingjill scott - who is jill scott?: words & sounds vol 1
― lex pretend, Sunday, 31 July 2011 10:30 (fourteen years ago)
Aimee Mann - Bachelor No.2Giant Sand - Chore of EnchantmentYo La Tengo - And then Nothing Turned Itself inside-outMontgolfier Brothers - Seventeen StarsJohnny Cash - Solitary ManRyan Adams - HeartbreakerLambchop - NixonThe Go-Betweens - The Friends of Rachel WorthGodspeed You Black Emperor!- Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven!Neil Young - Silver and Gold
― alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 31 July 2011 10:40 (fourteen years ago)
forgot about Nixon - fantastic album!
― notes on camping (Pillbox), Sunday, 31 July 2011 10:59 (fourteen years ago)
In no particular order:
The Avalanches - Since I Left YouDeparture Lounge - …Out of ThereElectric Wizard - DopethroneLambchop - NixonSlough Feg - Down Among The DeadmenOutkast - StankoniaUfomammut - Godlike SnakeYo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-OutD'Angelo - VoodooRZA & Various Artists - Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai soundtracks
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 31 July 2011 12:40 (fourteen years ago)