Burn them. Burn them all.

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So it's inhumane to burn old people when they start getting boring, but is it ok to do it with old records? That way we'd never have had loads of annoying Beatles wannabes and what have you.

What I'm asking is, wouldn't it be really interesting if more of todays artists were somehow starting from scratch? How would the sound change? I guess this is like asking what would happen if we ripped out a stage of human evolution somewhere but anyway.

― Ronan, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Also isn't there a strong case that bands like the Beatles and the Stones did as much harm as good "at the end of the day". And the Doors only did harm cos they were shite.

― Ronan, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Re Doors - they sort of invented Iggy and Alice Cooper (non-blues- reverential end of 'transgressive' sector) as well as Mazzy Star, so they're OK. Also, I liked his attempts at making an anti-drug radio advert.

― dave q, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Didn't the members of Live claim to own something like five records between them when they started? That didn't do us much good.

― Andy K., Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

mm. arguably knowing what *not* to play is as important as knowing what to play.

CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING.

and even that's overrated..

― david, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Good point Andy. Often I, like Ronan, think it would be great if everyone started from scratch, but unfortunately, IME, evidence points to the fact that people who haven't heard very much music usually have execrable (if any) taste (by 'if any', I mean they just seem to buy stuff without caring what it is, like even remembering if they heard it or not), and the musicians who are like this (a surprisingly big number) are the worst of all - if they own only one CD and it's by, say, the DOORS (heh), all you'll get is an unbearable fifth-rate Jim Morrison pastiche - because according to them, that's what 'music' consists of. They're like people trying to converse with a two-word vocabulary (yes I know most people get by perfectly fine on same).

This doesn't apply to people who can't 'play well' conventionally - only people who have extraordinarily narrow tastes/ experiences.

― dave q, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't believe i said inhumane.

― Ronan, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

we are at the close of a episteme, surely: in 300 yrs time, ppl will look back at the 20th C and say, they were documentation-mad they recorded everything and didn't start new stuff till they'd played the old stuff back

in particular the miles of CCTV footage of empty office corridors and alleyways will baffle them, slanting historical analysis towards the v.weird. "Home movies" = movies of no one home!!

― mark s, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Jason Pierce used to bullshit about not listening to anything but Elvis and Patsy Kline (sp?) but I doubt that's true.

― Ronan, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Home movies" = movies of no one home!!

Warhol should have just put his name on those.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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