Dave Q ponders Van Halen

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And does he ever.

After contemplating its future and considering Don Ho and Magnum McGarret as lead singers, the band reunited with Jason Scheff, who sang such hits as "I Don't Wanna Live Without Your Love" and "Look Away" during the band's late-'80s resurgence. He wrote some new songs here, but unfortunately "VOA ('raise the flag/let it wave/shoot them down/to their graves') 2" isn't one of them. That would've been interesting in these exciting times, but instead "Up for Breakfast" sounds a little too obviously predesigned for the forthcoming Crank Waffles halftime-show spot, however resigned yet unnerving coming from the onetime Dean Martin of the guitar. Imagine waking up sober and realizing that's how good you're going to sound for the rest of your career. (One day at a time!) And then collaborating with a professional tequila drinker.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 December 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

original edition

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 30 December 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 December 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't even begin to keep up with that article.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 December 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave Q for White House Press Secretary

57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 30 December 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah. great writing, otherwise.

Huk-L, Thursday, 30 December 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

How does Dave Q keep all those connections in his head? I mean, I guess he doesn't really, since they're leaking out. But how did they get there in the first place? I, mean, I totally forgot about post-Cetera Chicago. And certainly Diamond Dave never had a solo hit that was as ridiculous and poignant as that theme from "The Karate Kid 2." I don't think "Yankee Rose" cuts it.

J (Jay), Thursday, 30 December 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Meanwhile, on a more focused note, Dave Q ponders Diver Down:

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=1411

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

That is hard to read. Is this the guy that Ned has a fanpage about?

Triple Ho, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

So the fanpage is actually a mockery of Dave Q, then?

Triple Ho, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish somebody could find the article that appeared in the Voice in the eighties with the Best Of list for some future year (like *2005*), which, like the end of a Star Trek history lesson, listed all the various future incarnations of The Traveling Wilburies. But that was back in the pre-digital age so surely it's gone daddy gone.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

So the fanpage is actually a mockery of Dave Q, then?

Good lord, no. Anything but.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

triple ho is you stupid-o?

blount, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish somebody could find the article that appeared in the Voice in the eighties with the Best Of list for some future year (like *2005*), which, like the end of a Star Trek history lesson, listed all the various future incarnations of The Traveling Wilburies. But that was back in the pre-digital age so surely it's gone daddy gone.

Eh, well, I'm positive I've got that somewhere in my collection, which is currently in the basement of a house 80 miles away from me, but if I remember it the next time I'm there...nah, never mind, won't happen.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I really, really liked that Diver Down review....whilst I appreciate the gonzo over the top surreal quality of homie's writing, and it is good shit, I guess I prefer - as a reader - when he tones it down a bit (or at least confines mostly to actual reality and doesn't veer off into asurdist fiction), I thought the Diver Down review was a good balance of his style with a bit more informative and "reality based" writing style for a person of such pedestrian tastes as myself.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

triple ho is you stupid-o?

I would be the last to know. You're all in praise of unreadable material?

Triple Ho, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The only gripe I have about that article is that he called Fair Warning overrated. !!?!?!

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

...plus I think that's actually a regular clarinet in "Big Bad Bill", not a bass clarinet. The bass clarinet, of course, was the trademark instrument of Eric Dolphy, whose way-posthumous LP Other Aspects itself coulda (like Diver Down) passed for a White Stripes LP:

http://lead-zepp.cool.ne.jp/p4026ed/15other.JPG

(Hey, this is fun!)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

dude go up to 'view' and where 'text size' is click 'largest' and you should be able to read this stuff just fine! happy to help!

blount, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

1.) The only gripe I have about that article is that he called Fair Warning overrated. !!?!?!

Yes, Martin agree. Them fighting words. Grrrr. Make me want smash face in one time for every false harmonic in opening riff to Mean Streets. Grrrr! Smash!

2.) plus I think that's actually a regular clarinet in "Big Bad Bill", not a bass clarinet.

Correct. It is merely a clarinet. It is played by Eddie's pops though.

and the rest from Dave's Diver Down review:

3.) the underrated Women & Children First

What? I think it's pretty fairly rated in the pre-Diver Down output: Not as good as anything before and not as good as Fair Warning, which could rock the nuts off of just about anybody.

4.) a detail of his famous adhesive-taped guitar was the cover art [for Diver Down]

Is this a sly joke? Because the cover is the damn flag/symbol for "diver down." One of several safety-minded markings used by actual divers.

5.) "Cathedral" makes one wish that Eddie wouldn’t record these cool sounds as soon as he thinks of them but instead invent something else for them to do besides ascending triads/arpeggios (to be fair, he does a descending minor-scale exercise at the end of this one)

Come on, man. Complaining about the simplicity of a short instrumental track on a fucking rock record is just silly. Most of that record is I IV V song structures and pentatonic (or derivative) scales. JUST LIKE MOST OF MOST ROCK RECORDS.

I'm pretty damned rockist myself, but even I think criticism based on the complexity/difficulty of a song is retarded. It might have made more sense to say that there's no good reason why the unmemorable "Cathedral" appears on the album.

Similarly, I don't get "...but it’s too confusing, because Roth sings bass through the first two lines then switches to lead for the middle part." I mean, how is that confusing, Dave? You pretty much just nailed it in one sentence. He sings one part throught he first two lines and then switches to sing another.

I also think Diver Down is a crappy-to-meh record compared to pretty much everything else [Roth-era] Van Halen ever did, but there are many many ways to voice this opinion without resorting to the written equivalent of masturbating to hear yourself talk.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and for the record I like Mr. Q quite a bit, actually. Seriously.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

there are many many ways to voice this opinion without resorting to the written equivalent of masturbating to hear yourself talk.

This is what I meant by "unreadable." If he was James Joyce and the Van Halen review was Ulysses, it might be worth the effort.

Triple Ho, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, to clarify, I don't actually find his stuff unreadable. It can sometimes require one to slow down a bit (which may or may not be counterproductive as a writer), but I can get through it and usually appreciate the number of tangents he follows (primarily because he doesn't ever follow any one of them too far, which in my opinion is how he manages to keep it just this side of what I'd call "readable").

HOWEVER, in the case of the Diver Down review I feel that many of the asides and tangents are unfounded, poorly-explained or just downright incorrect. So it gives me the impression that it was less of an exercise in having something concrete to say and more of an exercise in not making sense while sounding obtuse.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)


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