Anyone who expressed an interest in salsa mix CDRs, send me an e-mail.

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I just made a CDR compilation of 2003/2004 salsa songs. I realize New Year's Eve isn't going to be the heaviest night for ILM activity, but I have been preoccupied with setting up my new PC. It looks like I blew out my brand new speakers (plugging the power in with the speakers turned on, and apparently with the volume turned up somewhat high), but overall it's going well.

Anyway, if you are interested, let me know (whether you ever said anything in the past about it). It might be good to let me know on this thread as well, since my e-mail seems a little overzealous about blocking spam and sometimes I don't get mail people say they've sent.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, send me one.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 1 January 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)

Funny, I was just telling somebody I'd like more salsa. Not a genre I know much about. What would you like in trade?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 1 January 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)

What sort of stuff do you have? You don't really have to send something in return, although I certainly wouldn't mind it. I'm really not into much pop (in the broadest sense) made after the early 80s (outside of Latin music), so I'm pretty narrow in that regard. (Obviously there are exceptions, but it's still true overall.) Maybe some other international things would interest me. (Indonesia?) We should do this by e-mail. Mine seems to be working okay right now.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 07:02 (twenty years ago)

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Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 January 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

Julio, does that mean you are interested or not interested?

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

rockist s. i am interested: also possibly even i have latin-ish stuff* (?!) you don't have (haha = psychic tv bootlegs!) (kiddin obv) (well i have em but believe you no longer want em)

*it wd do me good to sort through it and think abt it and make tapes BUT it is on vinyl** so tapes is what they wd have to be
**apologies = i am v.old

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 1 January 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

If you happen to have Psychic TV at the club Revival in Philadelphia in 1988, I'd actually be interested in that.

But anyway, I will be happy to send you a copy of this. Just give me an address I can send it to.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

ok cool i emailed it

pester me abt chasin up the swopsie. it is good for me

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 1 January 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I've loved the past ones so more is always spiffy. Thanks!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 January 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm interested rockist. can you email me (wz going to but not sure whether that was an email addy). we'll sort a trade out.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 January 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

haha sorry I didn't read this thread properly.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 January 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

do not flip yr lid
but I am interested
(only CD trades,

my computer sucks)
email me at this address,
maybe we can trade?

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 1 January 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

I'd like you to hear it, so I will send regardless of trading possibilities. It starts off with some Colombian things, which for some reason I think you might like more than PR/Nuyorican salsa. One of the songs is actually a cumbia. It ended up being fairly varied (at least to my ears), the result of what I happened to have on hand. I don't want to give away any surprises though.

Julio, so that means you aren't interested in this one (as I'd expect)? I guess I should just check my e-mail. I'll be getting into more general trading of stuff later. I still have some questions about my CD burning software that I haven't figured out yet, so I'm still feeling my way around.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

yeah I mailed you. sorry - the confusion came out of the 'go.com', I thought it was a fake email without reading the thread.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 January 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm interested.

C0L1N B--KETT, Saturday, 1 January 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Could you type out your email address? My account is fucked up and ILX isn't letting me send webmail.

C0L1N B--KETT, Saturday, 1 January 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

oumtransmissions@go.com

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

ooh, i'd love one - can trade all manner of german dance music for it.
i feel woefully uneducated on contemporary salsa. henry fiol's "oriente" is one of my favorite songs ever (is this a good thing? bad thing?) and it feels like a weird little cosmic outpost in a huge, empty resonating nothingness that i'd like to fill in.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Saturday, 1 January 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

I don't know that song, but there's a Henry Fiol song on this mix. Just e-mail me an address I can send it to.

I'll be making more of these in the future. (Except I'm going to run out of material pretty quickly, since in order to pay for my new PC I'm going to have to cut back on CD buying.)

I'm not sure about the German dance music (which I probably won't like), but maybe we can come up with something. I'll send it regardless.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Are you keeping the track listing a secret?

pheNAM (pheNAM), Saturday, 1 January 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Kind of, yeah. I will e-mail it to you, since I know that you are familiar with a lot of it already. I don't think there will be much on there that you won't already know of. Maybe we can arrange some more specialized swaps at a later date. But I will send you the list, and if you still want a copy after you see it, I can send it out. All but a couple tracks (or at least albums) are kind of obvious in terms of award nominations, chart positions, and, to a lesser extent, reviews. That's not why I chose the songs I chose.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Looks good, thanks. There are several tracks I'm not familiar with. Now that I saw the list, I'm hoping you may hold the missing track that I can't figure out. A salsa tune played regularly on Mega97.9 that has me totally stumped.

pheNAM (pheNAM), Saturday, 1 January 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Can you describe it? Words?

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

I don't know spanish too well, but a phonetic translation of the main coro would be: "Han, cojida la cosa..." (then something else which i can't even attempt to spell)

pheNAM (pheNAM), Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

(Ned I will need your postal address again. You can send it to this e-mail address. In fact, it might be safe at the moment, since my primary e-mail account is not quite set up and I don't feel like calling my ISP until after the weekend. No point even trying to get service on New Year's Day weekend.)

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I know that. It's Grupo Niche. "Han Cogida la Cosa" from A Golpe Folklorico. That has three really good songs on it, all at the beginning. I'll probably make a Grupo Niche comp. somewhere down the line, since there is no legitimately available best of that even comes close to pulling together their best songs. (I think that's quite intentional too.)

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

That's from 1999.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

It's possible the song is unreleased. Over the summer Mega was playing an awesome merengue tune, so I when into all my usual latin shops and sang it to the workers. Most of them were not familiar with it, so i was like "what the fuck?".

Then one guy said it was a song from the upcoming Los Toros Band cd. So now, six months later, it still hasn't been released.

It strikes me as kinda strange. But maybe it makes sense if it was like a "sneak preview" or "dj exclusive" kinda thing. I'm not totally familiar with latin radio programming, so i'm just in the dark.

pheNAM (pheNAM), Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was them!! Duh, I'm even familiar with that song title (like I've seen those words before). And I looked through my Grupo Niche best of cd, but couldn't find it. Right now, I'll check through my cd collection to see if i have it on a compiliation.

THANK YOU!!!

pheNAM (pheNAM), Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

I think it's hard to find on CDs other than the album it came from (unless you are talking home-made compilations). You might be able to slsk it, but otherwise, I can get a copy to you eventually.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

I think Grupo Niche's best salsa songs would actually have more crossover potential than most salsa recordings. They often reflect other currents in pop music, and at their best it doesn't come across as silly as it can when, say, Oscar D'Leon tries to rap or something.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

"when, say, Oscar D'Leon tries to rap or something"

That's hilarious. Did he do that?

"I think Grupo Niche's best salsa songs would actually have more crossover potential than most salsa recordings. They often reflect other currents in pop music"

Is that true? I haven't really noticed. I probably wouldn't dig it too much if they mixed in other pop stuff. Off the top, I can't think of any songs that I like mixing in pop stuff (besides reggaeton, that is).

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I'm an idiot. I have the song on my hardrive, but I had it misfiled in the merengue section (probably selected it by accident when I was moving my Grupo Mania stuff).

pheNAM (pheNAM), Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

That's hilarious. Did he do that?

"Mujer de Arena" (live, on the 22nd New York Salsa Festival/Celebration RMM 10th Anniversary, which has a few good tracks, but that's not one, though I like the regular studio version).

I probably wouldn't dig it too much if they mixed in other pop stuff.

I mean pop pretty broadly. "Han Cogida la Cosa" has that ragga/dancehall style rapping in it. I think I hear a well-integrated rap influence in the coros on some of their songs from the new album (without anyone actually rapping per se), but I also was thinking of the production (e.g., they sometimes use drum machines and pull it off, despite the salsa context; they play around more with remixes than most salsa bands do).

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

"Han Cogida la Cosa" has that ragga/dancehall style rapping in it"

In the last couple months I must've heard it like 15 times.

I don't recognize who the rapper is, but maybe the program managers picked up on the fact that the song sounds hip now, because reggaeton has blown up (or the rapper may be coming up now).

"they play around more with remixes than most salsa bands do"

You mean like the gran combo revisted project? Now, that you mention it, maybe mega is playing a remix. I'll have to listen more closely next time.

pheNAM (pheNAM), Saturday, 1 January 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

To clarify my last post. It is unusual for Mega to give so much airplay to a song from 1999 that wasn't even a huge hit back then.

pheNAM (pheNAM), Saturday, 1 January 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty sure it's one of the band members doing ragga style rapping, but I think he pulls it off. I have a hunch (I don't really know) dancehall/ragga has been kind of big in Colombia for a while. But anyway I'm pretty sure it's just one of them.

You mean like the gran combo revisted project?

Yeah, except I think some members of Grupo Niche just do the remixing themselves. It's not a guest DJ thing, I think.

x-post:

I don't know. I remember it being fairly big, at least in clubs and at salsa parties. I don't know about radio play. Maybe Philadelphia and New Jersey were just ahead of New York for once.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

I think you're right about the reggaeton explosion probably making it sound very timely.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

I do have a remix of the song, but from 2001, on La Danza de la Chancaca. The rapping gets a little more fragmented in that version.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

"Maybe Philadelphia and New Jersey were just ahead of New York for once."

Big Up Philly & Jersey!!

Down With New York Salsa Elitists!!

pheNAM (pheNAM), Saturday, 1 January 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Haha. Down with New York salsa elitists who would never dance to Marc Anthony or even more than the occasional Victor Manuelle song!

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I sent you an email, I'm not sure if it got through your spam filter.

C0L1N B--KETT, Sunday, 2 January 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

I got it, but you didn't include your address. (I sent you a reply within the last couple hours. My sense of time is vague at the moment but I know I need to be in bed.)

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 2 January 2005 06:12 (twenty years ago)

I just finished coming up with a classic salsa mix CDR, so if any of you want that as well, let me know, though this may slow thing down a little (not that much really). So just say you're interested here (or send an e-mail). The stuff on this mix is mostly not obscure, but I tried to avoid some of the more obvious song choices that I know are widely available on the sort of salsa compilations you are likely to have come across.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 2 January 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

ok cool i emailed it

mark s, I never got your e-mail. Check your in-boxxx.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 2 January 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

ok cool i replied to what wz in my in-boxxx

(the one that said: "Hello, I am Mr Salsist Scientist son of the late Dr Rockist Scientist the Nigerian finance minister. Plz send details of bank account blah blah")

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 January 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

Got it. I actually think my classic salsa mix is the Mother of All Salsa Mixes.

Thank you for FedExing the 6,000,000 American dollars. You will be paid back with interest within a month or two.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 2 January 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

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RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 2 January 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

pheNAM, you may find this interesting as background to that song. I put an "a" on the end when it should be an "o." I could swear I copied that from the back of the CD itself though.) This article mentioned that they had left SONY, but they are back on SONY again. Also, I've seen "Han Cogido la Cosa" translated as "They have made a decision" rather than "They have taken up that thing." I suspect it's very idiomatic.

From miaminewtimes.com
Originally Published By Miami New Times Thursday, March 9, 2000
©2005 New Times, Inc. All rights reserved.

MUSIC

Call Me Negro
Grupo Niche says it loud and proud with salsa
By Celeste Fraser Delgado

In polite Colombian society, well-meaning mothers tell their children in hushed tones: "Don't say negro, my dear; say moreno." One word means black. The other means dark. Jairo Varela, leader of Grupo Niche, Colombia's most successful salsa orchestra, has no patience for such fine distinctions. After spending three years in prison on drug-trafficking charges he believes were racially motivated, Varela insists on calling a spade a spade.

"The racism in Colombia is clear," says the 49-year-old band leader from his office in Cali. "This has created an additional level of difficulty for our etnia," our ethnic group, "because we are black and because we are poor."

With seven gold and four platinum records under his belt since forming Grupo Niche twenty years ago, Varela has come a long way from the poverty of his native Quibdó, a tiny village on the Pacific coast in the department of Chocó. At the time of his arrest in 1995, the musician owned a modeling agency, a two-million-dollar discotheque in Cali, and a $250,000, 48-track, state-of-the-art recording console. He also invested generously in the campaigns of aspiring Afro-Colombian politicians, a move Varela thinks did not go unnoticed by the nation's power elite. He is convinced that his wealth and influence got him into trouble with the law in a country he believes is not ready to accept a successful black man.

Race is particularly complicated in Colombia, where geographical and cultural regionalism have separated the sangre, those with African blood, from one another as well as from the rest of the nation. Chocó is one of many far-flung territories where the Spanish plantation system scattered African peoples. Limited contact among the black people of Chocó, the Caribbean islands, the Atlantic coast, and the inland city of Cali led to the development of distinct forms of neo-African expression in each region. What being black means -- and what it sounds like -- often depends on where you live.

Racism, the brutal common denominator of the black experience, unites otherwise very different Afro-Colombian communities. Paradoxically racism also aggravates the intense regionalism that characterizes Colombian culture in general. While Colombians of all races tend to identify by region first and foremost -- as Paisas (from Medellín), Caleños (from Cali), or Costeños (from the coast), Afro-Colombians are especially likely to put hometown before nation. The songs Varela has written for Grupo Niche include praise for Cali, Medellín, and Barranquilla, but not a single tune celebrates Colombia as a whole.

When asked about the Colombian roots of Grupo Niche's salsa sound, Varela answers adamantly: "There is no Colombian influence in my music. The influence is African." Varela does not mean the influence comes directly from the continent of Africa, however. He explains, "The melodies and the rhythms come from the African people where I grew up on the Pacific coast."

From the time he was eight until he was twelve years old, Varela played with a band of village children called La Timba. The youngsters raised funds for their pastimes by performing African-based folk music on bongos, maracas, and guiros during feast days for the saints. The children learned music from the adults around them. Varela recalls, "My town was so small all you had to do was open your eyes to see what everyone else there was doing."

In addition to the local folk music that played an important role in village life, recordings from Cuba made their way to Chocó. Varela tells how the traditional Cuban son sounded familiar: "We heard more of ourselves in groups like Sonora Matancera than we did in the Colombian groups that were coming from the other coast or from the interior." Across thousands of miles and hundreds of years of separation, Varela heard in the Cuban music the same African roots that inspired him in Quibdó.

The village burned down in 1966, sending the then-seventeen-year-old aspiring musician to Bogotá to continue his studies. At that time little of the neo-African music playing along the coasts and in Cali could be heard in the nation's capital. Varela kept playing, though, and in 1980 formed Grupo Niche, taking for his band's name a term that in Colombia describes the very darkest of black-skinned people.

"We didn't have much of an echo in Bogotá," remembers Varela, telling why the band moved in 1983 to Cali. "In Cali we had the total support of the people." A city with a considerable Afro-Colombian population, Cali began to import salsa with a passion in the late 1960s, and developed a distinctive style of dance that often required speeding up salsa records from 45 rpm to 78 rpm. By the time Grupo Niche arrived two decades later, Caleños were eager for a band that could play music to match their frantic dance style. "There was such an integration between Cali and Grupo Niche," observes Varela, "that we developed hand in hand."

In Cali Niche found a new singer, Tito Gomez, who helped break the group into the international market. The band brought their Colombian sound to the World Festival of Salsa at Madison Square Garden in 1986. Since then Grupo Niche has launched a number of solo singers and become a staple of salsa clubs and festivals. The group has toured the United States more than 100 times and played more than 1700 shows worldwide. But success has had its aesthetic downside: Niche's brand of salsa consequently settled into a rather predictable format that emphasizes the treble with the high end of the piano and a whole lot of horn. Rapid montunos satisfy the Caleño taste for fast footwork, but Varela's consistently neat arrangements aim to please an international audience that knows what it wants and wants to hear it again and again.

Although Varela's compositions continue to reference the African traditions of Chocó and other regions of Colombia, racial consciousness remained a muted concern in Grupo Niche's music until Varela's arrest. Finding himself, despite his fame and fortune, at the mercy of the same forces that lead to the disproportionate incarceration of black men across the globe, Varela's lyrics began to make more pointed statements about race.

"What happened to me doesn't have a name," Varela observes bitterly. He was convicted in 1995 of illicit enrichment, conspiracy, and money laundering. The charges centered on 48 million pesos ($27,000) Grupo Niche received from Cali cartel boss Miguel Rodriguez Orejuela as payment for a concert appearance. The band leader was released from jail a year later, after demonstrating that the court failed to consider royalties he received for his recordings from Sony Internacional when accounting for his income. Prosecutors appealed the ruling, however, returning Varela to prison at the end of 1997. He served two additional years in a casa especial, a special facility for distinguished convicts, before being released under the condition that he remain inside Colombia.

"They told me we made bad money," Varela protests, "but they didn't say anything to white artists who played on the same payroll. [Venezuelan salsero] Oscar D'Leon and [Puerto Rican salseros] El Gran Combo played there. So did Colombian acts, like [vallenato singer] Carlos Vives. There was no equality."

Grupo Niche continued to tour extensively without Varela and released two albums under his remote direction. For A Prueba de Fuego (Trial by Fire, 1997), the jailed leader approved the band's interpretation of his new compositions by cell phone. In the casa especial, the authorities allowed Varela to install a computer on which he composed, arranged, and played back the material for Señales de Humo (Smoke Signals, 1998).

"Maybe the quality of these projects suffered," Varela admits, "but the sacrifice and dedication it took to keep going more than makes that up for me."

A Golpe de Folklore (With the Force of Folklore, 1999) is Grupo Niche's first release since Varela left jail in October of last year. Free from prison Varela also has extricated himself from Sony. Varela cut the disk on his own label, PPM, Professional Music Producers. His eldest daughter, Yanila Muñiz, runs the U.S. office of PPM out of a small warehouse in the Doral district of Miami. Whatever the source of Varela's income, the production value of A Golpe de Folklore suggests PPM has more than enough money to generate high-quality recordings and manage an extensive distribution network. The strong name recognition of Grupo Niche makes it seem likely Varela's label will succeed where smaller, garage startups fail. The first single, "Han Cogido la Cosa" ("They've Taken Up That Thing"), protests the common use of racial slurs to make jokes. The song repeats a number of traditional racist jabs, only to reverse them in the end. The chorus demonstrates the kind of unequal treatment Varela believes has victimized him: "Black man running is a thief/White man running is an athlete." During the improvised soneo, singer Willy Garcia suggests another way to see the black man. "Let's do the real accounting," he sings. "I am a black man. I am a salsero. My drum plays the message."

The rage behind the humor in "Han Cogido la Cosa" is palpable. The arrangements, however, are as polite as ever in Niche hits. Despite centuries of oppression, each instrument patiently awaits its turn. No matter how ugly the world may be, there are no messy descargas here. The orderly instrumentation might be a way of keeping a cap on the rage, a way of holding back what threatens to explode. As if following the hypocritical mores of Colombian society, the song's most pointed chorus fails to be heard on the recording at all: "Don't call me moreno," read the liner notes, "call me negro."

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Link.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

I didn't know most of that. I had know idea Varela had been in jail. Everything I've read about the Colombian salsa scene suggests that everyone who performs there performs for money from the drug cartels at some point or other. See this interview.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Monday, 3 January 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Hey LaRue I just emailed you. I got the cd's today and am listening to them now. Thanks Again!!

pheNAM (pheNAM), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

LaRue, I'll send you an email, but also while I'm here wanna say THANKS! I just listened to them all in a row (some tracks repeatedly). My xcercycle and I salute you!

don, Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

(Those of you who haven't gotten your salsa mixes yet can take comfort in knowing that I am making improvements to them. I think I have a new track listing for the classic salsa mix.)

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

This is the new track listing for the Classic Salsa mix:

Eddie Palmieri: Los Cueros Me Llaman
Joe Cuba Sextette [canta: Cheo Feliciano]: Aprieta (Oye Como Va)
Cheo Feliciano: Anacaona
Justo Bentacourt: Psicologia
Larry Harlow [canta: Celia Cruz]: Act II: Gracia Divina [from Hommy]
Angel Canales: Sol Mi Vida
El Gran Combo: Don Goyo
Willie Rosario: Boba
Fania All Stars [canta: Ismael Rivera]: El Nazareno
Mon Rivera/Willie Colon: Mosaico #2
Ruben Blades/Willie Colon: Pablo Pueblo
Hector Lavoe/Willie Colon: Triste y Vacia
Sonora Poncena: Ahora Si
Tipica 73 [canta: Jose Alberto]: Baila que Baila
Louie Ramirez [canta: Azuquita]: En un Beso la Vida


(People in other countries: I will send your packages once I have done the usual security clearances to determine that you are not terrorists.)

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 13 January 2005 05:22 (twenty years ago)

fuck it i'm not getting one then...?

bulbs (bulbs), Thursday, 13 January 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

SeÒor LaRue del Salsa Scientistico - are you (*1*) accepting (any of) my offers also, then?

...Or (heavens forbiddo!) (*2*) neither of my mail-e's did reach you after all?

If *1* be positive, I'd need your address to send you something.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 13 January 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

RS: You're fucking wicked! Thanks so much!

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 January 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

I'm making copies of these for the busboys and cooks that I work with. I think I may become their favorite waiter.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 January 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

t\'\'t, I received one e-mail from you this morning. I sent a reply. Maybe you will even get the reply.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 13 January 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

Glad you liked, Forksclovetofu.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 13 January 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Are you sure your co-workers like salsa? If they are Mexican, they might look at you funny if you give them these mixes.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 13 January 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

t\'\'t, Anyway, I'd rather wait to make definite arrangements about a trade until after I've sent something. That way I won't feel any pressure to rush.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 13 January 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

That's okeh with me, RSalsisto! :)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 13 January 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

RS: no, they've specifically requested salsa. i was asking around.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

I hope they like. That middle mix is like genuinely all things that were very popular in clubs. (In some cases, the songs may not have gotten much radio play though, I mean to the extent that salsa gets any commercial radio play.)

I could try to e-mail any of you the tracks for the alternate classic salsa mix (so that those of you who can make your own copies could assemble that version). I listened to it again this morning (in between shaving and getting a shower) and it's definitely a smoother mix, with less extreme variation in the volume, and a better flow from one track to the next. (Not to bum out the people who got the first version.)

RS, Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Julio, thanks for the tape, I just got it today. I still have not sent anything out to you, but will do so. Same for the rest of the overseas people who have requested copies.

RS, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Where is the love for the SALSA CDRs I made you people who are starting threads about Girls at Our Best and Gong? (Whine, whine, whine.)

RS, Saturday, 26 February 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

You have my attention. Would you like to swap cdr mixes?
(side questions: are these mp3s, and if so, whats the bitrates?)

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

RS the love will bloom, give it time!!

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

hi custos!!

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

There is much love! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Lord Custos, I'm sort of losing interest in sending these out, but we can arrange something. If you don't get any e-mail from me, send me an e-mail.

mark s, yeah, I know. It's unrealistic to demand that others love what I love on exposure to it, since I certainly don't always love what I've been given, downloaded, etc.

x-post:

Hi, Ned.

RS, Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

anyway i wanted to actually BE back on ilm b4 i started "actual real writin" on ilm

mission accomplished seein as a got a hataz meta-thread yay! (which is actually very mild and probbly justified)

pore old lady di has bn waitin for my "lesson" on unicorn since may 2003 i think

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
Mr LaRue, are you still offering?

Victor Mackulous (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

I love these by the by; thanks!

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)

The offer is on hold for the moment, but maybe in a few weeks I could send something.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

Custos, I will get back to you too if I send out any more of these.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

The overseas CDRs have gone out today.

gaz, I never got an address from you, so you're not getting one yet. (Either that or I got it and misplaced it.)

I am listening to my classic salsa mix (second edition) and I can't believe how great it is so far.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 26 March 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm in a good mood. I have been liking almost everything I listen to, even David Carretta.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 26 March 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

adamrl, I sent you an e-mail.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
I've deleted my oumtransmissions account due to spam.

don, I sent you a bunch of e-mails about the things you sent me, but they all bounced.

Lord Custos, I have lost the information you sent (in my old account), but I think I'll just make this a gift to you rather than a trade.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

rockist where can i write and give you address?

gaz

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

I have it. I'm sorry. I had it before but somehow I never copied it into my list of names and addresses of people who wanted mixes. I should be buying new CDRs/cases etc. this week, so maybe I'll get it out soon. (I may include some Oum Kalthoum as a consolation for being so late.)

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)

yippee! i found a copy of Robaeyat eh khaym btw - still finding it hard to motivate myself to play it too much. its on a disc with hades el rouh. fuck it i'll put it on now.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

That was one of the ones I was going to send, so I'll substitute another.

I've made "Robaeyat el Khayam" my Oum Kalthoum Kind of Blue, as in: "If you don't like this, you probably aren't going to get into the other stuff." Hadeeth el Roh. . . I don't think I have that. If I do, it's one I don't like much.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to play that and eat some baba ganouj.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

I think watching a complete video of one of her concert would help, if you could get your hands on one. I don't have anyway, but it will be one of the first things I buy once I get a DVD player.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Don, I listened to the Nicky Siano tape today, and part of the Os Mutantes. (Either the tape or my tape player died before I could hear all of the Os Mutantes. I think it might have been my player, since even when I tried to fast forward there was no apparent movement or motor noise or anything.) I liked Nicky Siano's The Gallery + fairly well. Nothing I didn't like a little bit, and at least a few songs I'd like to go back to and listen to more closely. I don't think I'd ever heard that Bill Withers "Harlem" and the line about not giving money to send the local clergy to the holy land was offkilter and caught my attention. Since mentioning Os Mutantes by e-mail, I had downloaded some and I'm not really drawn to them.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

(Don, I don't think your tapes "broke" my tape player. I picked up a cheap piece of crap portable tape player about a year ago and it would not surprise me at all if it's already dead. Any tapes made in Egypt that I've played in there are more likely to have killed it.)

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

maybe Can't Make Me and Afro-Brasil (the latter sent sep, since I discovered I'd left it out of the big package, after mailing the latter latter)will fare better (since they're actual CDs)(Cybreage, postliterate suentence structure: it's that best)

don, Friday, 29 April 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

Actually, what I like the most is the Mahmoud Fadl CD. Can't make me I need to have another try at, but it's not really my speed. I like some of what's on that Colombian folkloric mix (Toto la Momposina).

Sorry, my e-mails to you kept bouncing back to me, so I decided to just comment here.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

yr emails keep bouncing "back" to me too, twistedly enough

don, Saturday, 30 April 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

Well the oumtransmissions e-mail account is dead now. Use the one I'm using now. (No guarantee they won't bounce though.)

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 1 May 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

Also, H. if you are out there, please re-send your postal address! I can't find it. Thanks.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 1 May 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
fucking hell i am rather overwhelmed. big thanks. do i need to take out the spaces to email you rockist?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 26 May 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

No! Use undersc0res. (You are the former gaz I assume? I didn't know that's who mullybrubbr was.)

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 May 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

(It's two underscores. And it only ended up that way because the first e-mail account with one underscore had some problem like I lost my password or something, although I think I later remembered it.)

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 May 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Don't feel guilty if you don't like the Umm Kulthum.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 May 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

pheNAM, if you are out there!!!!!! That jazzy little break in Grupo Niche's "Han Cogido la Cosa" is just like a passage in Saoco's "Let the Story End." They must have lifted it from there, unless there is some earlier source. I think "Han Cogido la Cosa" is probably better (but I typically have trouble with Latin music en Anglais).

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 3 June 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

It sounds way more out of place in the Saoco song, but maybe that's just because I've heard the Grupo Niche song so many times.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 3 June 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)


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