― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)
BBC FOUR focuses on one of England's truly unique and under-rated bands - The Fall in this special documentary. One of the most enigmatic, idiosyncratic and chaotic garage bands of the last 30 years, The Fall are lead by the belligerent and poetic Mark E Smith and grew out of the fringe of the Manchester punk scene and to date have released in excess of three dozen albums, toured relentlessly, inspired two successful stage plays, recorded 24 Peel Sessions, performed with contemporary ballet dancer Michael Clarke along with various spoken word events. All this has happened under the guidance of Smith with various line-ups currently totalling over 40 different members. They have never conformed to fashion or musical trends and when asked why they were his favourite band, John Peel replied “They are always different, they are always the same.� This is the first time that Mark E Smith has agreed to the story being told on television and he along with many of the major players take us through this unique English rock 'n' roll story.
Their rollercoaster story is told alongside footage of their most recent and sadly now last Peel Session recorded in August at the legendary BBC Maida Vale studios, there is also film of John playing out the session at Peel Acres a week later. Contributors include past and present band members including Marc Riley, Una Baines, Steve Hanley, Ben Pritchard and Eleni Smith plus thoughts from key fans/critics including Paul Morley, Tony Wilson, Stewart Lee, promoter Alan Wise, original Buzzcocks manager Richard Boon and Franz Ferdinand.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
― Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)
and no brix? boo.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)
― wtin, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)
― Frankenstein On Ice (blueski), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)
And that 25th? Peel Session is great stuff. "Blindness" and "What About Us" are great stuff.
Scanlon works as a caretaker for a school grounds I think. And Hanley as a janitor?
― Scott McFarland, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)
Extricate I can live without, as I can without everything from "Frenz Experiment" through "Middle Class Revolt". "Unutterable" is truly interesting, their most real foray into electronic music. "Serum", "Way Round", "Ketamine Sun", those are great tracks. "Dr. Buck's Letter" is a great subtle exercise in rhythm. "Two Librans" is a great simple cruncher.
― Scott McFarland (Scott McFarland), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)
― Leon the Fratboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)
I think there are twenty-one proper Fall studio albums. I consider the live albums valid up to a certain point: Totale's Turns, A Part of America Therein, In a Hole, Seminal Live, maybe 27 Points. After that, it was cash-in city.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)
Franz Ferdinand are 'key fans', eh? Hmm. Stewart Lee sounds good though. I hope Eleni Smith gets a lot of screen time.
― Ferg, Ah (Ferg), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)
The "Fall Bootleg Box" of 5 gigs circa 2000-2001 is pretty cool. Garage rock as it should be played.
A box set of the Complete Peel Sessions is due out the first half of 2005. That will be fairly awesome.
― Scott McFarland (Scott McFarland), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)
More interestingly his/the band's "Cog Sinister" put out a handful of mostly pretty good live records from various eras. "I Am Pure As Oranj" was a great document of the band playing behind Michael Clarke's dancing, there was a release from Rejkavyk (sic) in 1983 that was nice ... the worst release was "Live 77" which was from an unlistenable, wildly distorted tape. Shenanigans like that are unfortunate and do distract from the straight line of brilliance that the band's "proper" albums maintain.
― Scott McFarland (Scott McFarland), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)
― Scott McFarland (Scott McFarland), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)
― Graeme (Graeme), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)
I Am Kurious Oranj? I was only just discovering the Fall at the time but I remember there being some wailing and gnashing of teeth about that...
What I was getting at was not active attempts by Smith to annoy Fall fans but his apparent lack of concern with anyone's opinion of the Fall being part of the appeal of the Fall.
― Graeme (Graeme), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 6 January 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 January 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 21 January 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)
― Tom May (Tom May), Saturday, 22 January 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)
― Ferg, Ah (Ferg), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
― Ferg, Ah (Ferg), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=24115
Mine just came through after 3 days of downloading. I watched it this morning while eating eggs in bed with my girlfriend.
― Mermanky (Mermanky), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 03:51 (twenty years ago)
Well, he let Brix E. Smith take over the band; then they started releasing 5 12" singles a year with stupid covers and uninspired music. These would be those Fall fans who didn't like the Smiths.
― Graeme Friedae, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)
There seem to be remarkably few interviews with MES where he comes across as being intelligent, I always feel slightly nervous that people unfamiliar with the band are watching and assuming he's just like some elder Gallagher brother.
Gig footage from the end of Sparta FC and Big New Prinz were great.
― Ferg, Ah (Ferg), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1678307,00.html
(ilm search for the fall takes forever, so i just picked random fall thread to revive. apologies if there's a more relevant one)
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 5 January 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 January 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Jena (JenaP), Sunday, 23 July 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago)
― Lmaoborghini (eman), Sunday, 23 July 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago)
― Jena (JenaP), Sunday, 23 July 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago)
― Grabbing Thistle (Bimble...), Sunday, 23 July 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago)
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 23 July 2006 20:33 (eighteen years ago)
― Jena (JenaP), Sunday, 23 July 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago)
― Jena (JenaP), Sunday, 23 July 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 23 July 2006 21:47 (eighteen years ago)
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago)
thanks for the link, i've seen this thread revive on and off again with much jealousy.
― fongoloid sangfroid (sanskrit), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:47 (eighteen years ago)
***JOY DIVISION REFERENCE***
― Grabbing Thistle (Bimble...), Monday, 24 July 2006 02:05 (eighteen years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 24 July 2006 07:29 (eighteen years ago)
― Lmaoborghini (eman), Monday, 24 July 2006 11:48 (eighteen years ago)
― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Friday, 22 September 2006 12:06 (eighteen years ago)
― Ficky Stingers (Bimble...), Saturday, 23 September 2006 01:57 (eighteen years ago)
― Period period period (Period period period), Saturday, 23 September 2006 04:33 (eighteen years ago)
― Edward III (edward iii), Saturday, 23 September 2006 11:56 (eighteen years ago)
― Dedicated to Jaggers Who Do Drive-Bys (noodle vague), Saturday, 23 September 2006 12:04 (eighteen years ago)
I found it here. It took me a couple of days to get though.
That's the link where I got it. It did take me three days to get though, but I have dial up. Also after I got it I had to download the BitTorrent program and then I still couldn't play it so I had to download this thing called XviD, then I could play it. Good luck!
― Delicious Carbonated Motor Oil (Bimble...), Saturday, 23 September 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago)