Does Cleopatra Records almost exclusively release AWFUL material on purpose?

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Cleopatra has to be one of the worst record labels of all time. Do they just pick up the artists nobody else wants or do they pick and choose these artists on purpose? With few exceptions, their artists are terrible!

What are the exceptions? What are your feelings about "the label of 1000 tribute albums?"

glitchypoo, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

gothsploitation

LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Spahn Ranch is the greatest band ever!

not really

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Review by Wade Kergan
Mutated...Manipulated...Translated gives the tribute treatment to that venerable voice of a generation, Limp Bizkit. This time out, however, tongue seems to be firmly planted in cheek as several of the low-watt artists are more interested in mocking the Bizkit than paying homage. Bizkit's biggest hit, "Nookie," is given a sleepy lounge sheen by alt-rockers Gliss. The only name to appear more than once on the 15 tracks is Jasmine St. Clair, an adult film star who doesn't so much sing as recite versions of "No Sex" and "Stinky Finger," as well as providing an intro and outro to the album. Other tracks tackle Limp Bizkit through the filter of rap, nu metal, and punk, but are largely unmemorable. This will more than likely be sought out by die-hard Bizkit fans, and those wishing to pull a fiendish prank on their friends.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

The best thing about Cleopatra is that you can buy large overstocks of their unsold material almost for nothing. The few surviving Italian goths are always willing to spend their money for some dummy Throbbing Gristle tribute.

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes they reissue good music on their Purple Pyramid label while still finding some way to fuck it all up. I think I have a Brainticket CD they put out where the tracks are meant to flow together as sidelong pieces but they cut them up with gaps in-between.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000IJCV.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I like this cover.

a banana (alanbanana), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

The Chrome Box is excellent. It included "Red Exposure" and most of "Third from the Sun," which the original Chrome box on Subterranean did not. "Third" came out after, originally, and "Red Exposure," which was quite good went missing. You had to give up on "I am the Jaw" but many people couldn't stand that, like my ex-wife, anyway.

The Guru Guru CD box was better than fair. The first disc of it containing much from the primitive power trio version of the band.

George Smith, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Cleopatra hasn't gone under like so many other labels, so I have a feeling somehow they sell just the right amount of their awful music.

I like all the Chrome stuff as well as anything remotely related to it.

Triple Ho, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

SPAHN RANCH IS AWESOME

Actually the In Parts Assembled Solely ep is really good. I also knew a girl who had a Cleopatra records tattoo--but she pretended she didn't. "It's the Eye of RA!" she'd insist, like that is in any way cooler than having a fucking Cleopatra logo tattoo.

adam (adam), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

did they release Brainticket's Adventure as Celestial Ocean (and vice versa)?

they did a decent job with the Kluster and System 7 CDs. and the first Psychic TV Hex Sex comp is a handy round-up indeed. they did totally botch Force Thee Hands ov Chance, though.

how is(?) Cleopatra related to Dressed to Kill? just to pick on another laughably shoddy org offering cut-rate product for cut-rate prices.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

Is Cleopatra going to release the new Britney single?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

glitchypoo, why did you mistype "album covers" as "material"?

Hellooooo, Kraftwerk (Yes, Cleopatra was, at one time, the U.S. distributor for Kraftwerk CDs.. shudder and shudder again), Brainticket, Hawkwind, Executive Slacks, and The Whip soundtrack (which was amended when Cleo took it over and removed the original black and grey cartoon monster finger that was actually, you know, cool looking, and replaced it with underaged Propaganda magazine model rejects in bondage involving a whip. Get it? The Whip? ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRG CLEOPATRA DIE DIE DIE... What's worse than a bad record label? A record label with decent taste that makes album covers sooo bad, that you're embarrassed to buy them, even used and with good musical content... I think I can count the number of exceptions on one hand.. The Damned's Strawberries being one of them)

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

The Germs DVD they put out was the most exploitative thing I've seen hit market in at least five years.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

The Germs DVD they put out was the most exploitative thing I've seen hit market in at least five years.

I was looking at a Germs DVD in the store and it had about 10 minutes of actual footage and the rest was some kind of slide show. Is that the one?

did they release Brainticket's Adventure as Celestial Ocean (and vice versa)?

Hmm, maybe. I dunno. So my copy of Celestial Ocean with the weird gaps between the tracks might actually be Adventure?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

As for original Cleopatra bands, I won't pretend to know anything about them because I don't.. the best ones sound like second wave EBM to me, which is hit or miss but nothing less essential than artists from "respected" electronic labels, necessarily. As for the goth bands that still use Casio orchestra stabs and murky drum machines, well, no comment.

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

looks like it may have been Adventure and Voyage that got switched. Celestial Ocean was just fucked up during the transfer from vinyl.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

Penal Colony to thread, if they're around.

Let me add to the Chrome lurv, though I still think the Dossier CDs are the peak of ridiculo.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

What's the worst record label?

john'n'chicago, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Is Cleopatra going to release the new Britney single?

Ooh, I hope so.

Leon the Fratboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Cleopatra makes Martin Atkins' Invisible look positively dignified. And that's sayin' somethin'.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

Other tracks tackle Limp Bizkit through the filter of rap, nu metal, and punk

does running (nu metal) Limp Bizkit through the filter of nu metal have some kind of interference effect, canceling itself out? Is that track just 5 minutes of silence?

tylero (tylero), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Cleopatra makes Martin Atkins' Invisible look positively dignified. And that's sayin' somethin'.

What about Rowan Atkinson?

Triple Ho, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Well, Cleopatra released my favorite Nico CD "Nico-Icon", and they also released a pretty good Hawkwind compilation I picked up. So that's two points in their favor in my book.

Bimble..., Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)

Didn't they reissue some old Christian Death albums?

Atnevon (Atnevon), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

and a whole bunch of new ones!

chaki in charge (chaki), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

and badly recorded live ones!

chaki in charge (chaki), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

by both Christian Deaths!

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)

Yay the Iron Mask! Oh wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

is the chrome box have all of the stuff on the subterranean one? i've heard that they omitted lots of stuff from it.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

is the chrome box have all of the stuff on the subterranean one? i've heard that they omitted lots of stuff from it

I have the Subterranean original and the Cleopatra iteration is superior. Let no snob tell you otherwise. It has quite a few things included that the original did not. First, all the selections by Chrome from the Subterranean Modern comp. Not necessary but not unwelcome.

The best material from "Third from the Sun," which came after the
Chrome box. Most notably, the "Firebomb" single and "Armageddon."
Contains all or most of "Red Exposure," which was never included in
the original box but fell in the same time period as everything else
included in it.

There's a live cut from an Eighties show in Italy. And the rest of the originals -- "Alien Soundtracks" which is fine, "Half Machine Lip Moves," the high point, The Gehenna Lion Chronicles things, bores of whooshing space rock, "No Humans Allowed," and "Blood On the Moon."

The only thing that was left off and obviously jumped out at me was "I Am the Jaw," a noise piece which took up an entire side, I think, of one of the originals.

George Smith, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Download's first album, Furnace, was released by Cleopatra. Not a stellar album by any means - but it had its' moments and lead to some great things.

I also liked the Synaethesia stuff I heard but it was only a few tracks.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Pig's "the Swining" album was pretty good (if you like cheesy industrial stuff). and it was released on Cleopatra.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Are any Christian Death albums besides Only Theatre of Pain (not on Cleopatra AFAIK) worth listening to though?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Not imo - and I do have a bit of a soft spot for the "cheesy industrial stuff".

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

That Nico "Icon" CD is, to me, an annoying compilation of some of the re-done "Drama of Exile" album (not sounding too great and missing some songs - always something I look for; the less complete the better the reissue, I say), 1 or both of the songs from the "Vegas/Saeta" 7" that also appears on "Hanging Garden" (I can't remember if it's both or not), plus a couple of songs from that always-misdated mid-80's concert recording to which no-one has thought to apply a hum-removal algorithm. And an interview-recording. The music is great, but god damn is it ever a crap release.

Pangolino again, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

I always wonder how I might have felt about it had I heard the original CD of Drama of Exile first. All I can say is when I later heard how Drama of Exile was originally released, it was clear which I preferred. And I think there was a nice 'goth' sound going on there, too that got lost on Drama of Exile, which come to think of it makes sense considering Cleopatra!

Bimble... (Bimble...), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

Oh yea! Cleo also released Gary Numan's "Exile". As much as I love GN it was a terrible album.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
What always bothered me about Cleopatra was its utter absence of attention to detail. The typographical errors and the artwork that looked like it was designed by a Ritalin-addled 11-year-old...don't miss it....

Take (oh, please!) the Passion of Covers collection of third-rate Bauhaus knock-offs. Of course, Cleopatra had spellin' problems...ha ha

the first song is BELA LUGOSIE'S (sic) DEAD by Electric Hellfire Club

The spelling errors on Cleopatra's CDs are too numerous to mention here. Maybe someone can add more...start a thread. Their re-issue campaigns could always be counted on to look as cheap as possible.

Dropping their own lame-ass offerings (Brainticket, Kraftwelt) into otherwise legit comps featuring Gong, Chrome, Tangerine Dream etc...unforgivable

They also had an incredibly lame band (Spahn Ranch) whose singer (Athan) was the publicist for the label and always turned each conversation into an impassioned pitch for his sub-scary nonsense. It's hard to make labels like Projekt and Invisible and the like look like the professional gold standard but Cleopatra managed. Well done.

Duke Dubuque (Duke Dubuque), Saturday, 21 January 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

They also had an incredibly lame band (Spahn Ranch) whose singer (Athan) was the publicist for the label

Oh dear god, that explains it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 January 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit, that Great White album cover...

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Saturday, 21 January 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahaha Spahn Ranch!

Dan (Bless Their Hearts) Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 21 January 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Dropping their own lame-ass offerings (Brainticket, Kraftwelt) into otherwise legit comps featuring Gong, Chrome, Tangerine Dream etc...unforgivable

Brainticket are a real Kraut band! Their Cottonwood Hill is fucking amazing!

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 21 January 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Brainticket are a real Kraut band! Their Cottonwood Hill is fucking amazing!

They're actually from Switzerland, but, yes, they are fucking amazing. Cleopatra fucked up the reissues of Brainticket's Voyage and Adventure, mistakenly reversing the music for each disc. Idiots.

brettino's bounce (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 22 January 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)

Spahn Ranch are suuuuuuch a guilty pleasure

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 22 January 2006 00:43 (nineteen years ago)

Are any Christian Death albums besides Only Theatre of Pain (not on Cleopatra AFAIK) worth listening to though?

Catastrophe Ballet?

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 22 January 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

I think the Jesus Points The Bone At You? compilation does collect the more tolerable of Vallor Death... at least "This is Heresy", which is not only the best Vallor Death song but also the most roflicious.

Dom iNut (donut), Sunday, 22 January 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

>> Let me add to the Chrome lurv, though I still think the Dossier CDs are the peak of ridiculo.

What's up with the Dossier CDs? Are they poor quality? They seem to go for a lot of money on Ebay. I got Red Exposure on vinyl recently and that's on Dossier, haven't got round to listening to it yet though.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 22 January 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

the best tribute album in years, in case you missed it, was the lotus eaters double disc trib to dead can dance. i'm only bringing it up cuz i feel the need to counteract the awfulness of cleopatra. here is the track-listing:



Disk One
1) ARCANA-In the wake of adversity
2) PERSHEPHONE-Spirit
3) DANNY LILKER (NUCLEAR ASSAULT)-Cantara
4) ATARAXIA-Bylar
5) FAITH AND THE MUSE-Mesmerism
6) TRAIL OF TEARS-The arcane
7) HORTUS ANIMAE (w/ Liv Kristine Espenaes of THEATRE OF TRAGEDY)-Summoning of the muse
8) AMBER ASYLUM-Cardinal sin
9) GRIDO- Oman
10) ANATHEMA – How fortunate if the man with none
11) HELENA IREN MICHAELSEN (ex TRAIL OF TEARS)- The lotus eaters
12) EPHEMERAL SUN- Avatar off
13) SARAH JEZABEL DEVA- The Wind that Shakes the Barley

Disk Two
1) BLACK TAPE FOR A BLUE GIRL-Fortune present gifts not according to the book
2) JARBOE (ex SWANS)-American dreaming
3) ANTIMMATER-Black sun
4) THE GATHERING- In power we entrust the love advocated
5) NIGHTFALL-The obiguitous Mr. lovegrove
6) DARKWELL-Anywhere out of the world
7) GREEN CARNATION- Cantara
8) ULVER-In the kingdom of the blind the one-eyed are kings
9) AKRABU- Desert song
10) NOEKK (ex EMPYRIUM)-How fortunate is the man with none
11) IMPERIAL BLACK (new band of CRADLE OF FILTH bassist)- Enigma of the Absolute
12) SECRETS OF THE MOON& NOSTALLGIA - The Protagonist- The Protagonist
13) MONUMENTUM – The trial
14) SUBTERRANEAN MASQUERADE – Summoning Of the Muse (Deconstructed)


you can get it from The End really cheap:

http://shopping.theendrecords.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.2062/it.A/id.6523/.f

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 22 January 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I got that randomly in the mail for free! I didn't complain, cause as you say, it be good.

Are they poor quality?

Basically what Damon did was license a rerelease of each of the original albums but tacked on one of his crap Helios-less albums as a 'bonus.' I have no problem at all The Visitation, you understand -- it's just weird and catchy enough -- but that was also the very first album before Helios joined. All the stuff after he left...dear god.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 January 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, OK. I don't have any issues with bonus tracks as long as the album itself sounds alright, that's what the stop button is for.

I don't much like The Visitation. Half Machine, Alien Soundtracks, Red Exposure, Third From The Sun, Blood on the Moon are all great though.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 22 January 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...
http://www.cleorecs.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=3959&category=

a.b. (alanbanana), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

1 more try: http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8289/8007lw6.jpg

a.b. (alanbanana), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:53 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

I just wanted to post here that ARTIMUS PYLE has an album recently released on Cleopatra.

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:03 (seventeen years ago)

the band or the guy?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:14 (seventeen years ago)

the guy.

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:16 (seventeen years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dri400/i439/i43995khcg3.jpg

1. Artimus Venomus
2. Brother Walk On By
3. Blood Sucking Weasel Attorneys
4. Dead Rock Stars' Widows, Gigolos, Pocket Money
5. Spit
6. Can't Get Off With Your Shoes On
7. Million Dollar Farm
8. Jerusalem
9. Trust No.3
10. Knock Me Down
11. Makes More Rock
12. Anti Venom

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:19 (seventeen years ago)

since The Law dictates that cleopatra stuff always turns up for $1 or less, i would consider buying that. bad cod-psych cover, bad song titles.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago)

lol @ "great zeppelin: a tribute to led zeppelin"

s1ocki, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago)

I have a reissue of Keith Leblanc's Major Malfunction on Cleopatra, on which the track order is reversed. (Each side was a single long medley of tracks, and this one has Track/Side 2 first, followed by Track/Side 1. Since the album was a concept record of sorts, this kinda fucks with listener appreciation a little bit.)

unperson, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago)

lol @ "great zeppelin: a tribute to led zeppelin"

coming soon, Gosh Darn That's Some Good Pink Floyd and Reasonably Acceptable Rush

Telephone thing, Friday, 29 June 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

Meh: A Tribute to The Guess Who

Telephone thing, Friday, 29 June 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

hehe

am0n, Friday, 8 August 2008 23:03 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

their website is just so confusing. new releases from the stooges, chrome, berlin, and billie holiday!

???????????????????????????

oh and they've got that live gin blossoms album you needed too!

??????????????????????????????????

http://www.cleorecs.com/

scott seward, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

fifteen years pass...

What not to post.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 May 2025 14:48 (one week ago)


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