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in the face of a new year, in the face of all the horribleness that comprised the last one (on a personal or greater scale), in the face of my own list-animosity, this seemed the only one to matter:
talk talk - laughing stock
john fahey - america
the velvet underground - "i'm set free"
tim buckley - "song to the siren"
aphex twin - "girl/boy song"
flying saucer attack - "sally free and easy"
saint etienne - "london belongs to me"
steve reich - music for 18 musicians
albert ayler - "truth is marching in"
kraftwerk - "city lights"
cocteau twins - "sugar hiccup"
toots and the maytals - "bam bam"
my bloody valentine - "to here knows when"
bjork - "amphibian"
umahlathini nabo - "ohude manikiniki"

jess, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

happy new year, ilm.

jess, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

nice list jess, happy new year one + all.

stevo, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Happy New Year to YOU. I am currently listening to Hall&Oates. Made my family suffer through "Creating Patterns" last night.

helenfordsdale, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Happy New Year.
At least everything feels different today, doesn't it?

Alacran, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Did anybody watch pioneers on C4 a couple of weeks ago. Steve Reich was the subject. Does anybody agree with the opinion that his music was influential to the acid house/dance crowd (are the sounds the composer made actually absorbed into the fabric of dance music)?

What about his stuff post- 18 musicians. Any brilliant pieces?

Julio Desouza, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I've always liked Tehillim, though on the whole i find him quite boring. I've never bought the theory that house would have been significantly difft had SR not existed: partly because it's never made clear if the lineage is proposed at an abstract/formal level (ideas abt repetition) or at a local, detailed level (ideas abt intensity and sensual attraction in a potentially boring ie repetitive context). Or somewhere else, even.

(Far more plausible out-of-hat lineage eg = Terry Riley => early KW => eurodisco => house, and i'd want chapter and verse here too)

mark s, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Mark- Do agree on the boring factor. Though back when I was (5 yrs ago) I borrowed 18 musicians from the library and my first thought was 'There's so much music out there'. Well, it made an impression as I was on a diet of guitar and more guitar and... more guitar based music. But I've heard really brilliant and mind-blowing composition since and SR's been left behind.

Never bought the influence on dance (though Simon R appeared on it claiming the influence). Surely it began with the KW. Never heard terry Riley so that's kinda interesting. What's it abt Riley's brand of minimalism that makes him influential?

Julio Desouza, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

tr had some big fluxus-linked instalation- residency in dusseldorf in 67/68, when kw were not yet aborning — which i will eat my arm if hutter at least did not go away from saying YEAH!! esp, given nature of v.first kw releases — PLUS riley had records out on Nonesuch years before any other minimalist (Rainbow in Curved Air/Poppy no-Good etc)

mark s, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

simon r's music history is shaky prior to 1980: this is because he has nevah understood punk rock (if you are reading mr reynolds then you KNOW I AM RIGHT AS ALWAYS!)

(you know i started my um nearly-completed yes-it-is ok-no-it-isn't book in order to write the book you are just now writing: but you can't understand post-punk unless you start with WEBERN! isn't that OBVIOUS!!??)

mark s, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

FAO - Mark S - there is a Punk Issue Special of Terrorizer magazine on sale now a double Jan/Feb 2002 edition !

includes articles on Reissues, Anarcho Punk, The Punk Underground, US vs UK, Oi, Hardcore, Punk/Metal crossover, Punk Legacies: post punk/industrial/goth, Alec Empire and the top 50 punk albums of all time.

DJ Martian, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

it is certainly all wrong abt everything

i shall hunt it down later in the week and confirm my prejudices

mark s, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Tehillim is the only Reich I ever play much at all and it's gorgeous. Music for 18 and Drumming are good too. Electric Counterpoint sucks. On the whole, I think he might just be a little too mellow for me. He fares a bit better than Glass in that I play him at all.

sundar subramanian, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The early Reich tapework stuff is totally essential, esp. "It's Gonna Rain" and "Come Out," which still gives me the shakes (it's been sampled a few times). Also, "Clapping Music" is a brilliant little piece--saw Reich and a friend perform it a few years ago, and it's ageless and, uh, very portable.

Douglas, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

When he stopsa da phases, his music ceases to amazes.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

jess: you can play records in my house any time you like

Re: Steve Reich
Does anybody agree with the opinion that his music was influential to the acid house/dance crowd (are the sounds the composer made actually absorbed into the fabric of dance music)?
Since no one's mentioned it yet, that "Reich remixed" CD that came out a year or two ago supported that opinion. The CD is largely rubbish, though, which suggested to me that most of those who claim Reich as an influence didn't really get what it is about him that makes him special.

What about his stuff post- 18 musicians. Any brilliant pieces?
IMHO, "Music For A Large Ensemble", "Tehillim", "The Desert Music" and "The Cave" are all superb. I like bits of "City Life" too, but his hit:miss ratio is growing smaller with the years.

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Was listening to Reich's 'Early Works' CD only the other day and was - indepedently of S. Reynolds etc. - struck by how much 'Piano Phase' prefigures so much techno - overlapping, minimal sounds, cyclical, minute variations - it's just an acoustic versh of 'Acid Trax' by Phuture! Eno (another 'godfather' of house) a massive fan of 'Come Out' and the other tape loop pieces...

Steve Shelley and William Winant performed 'Clapping Music' at the SY/RFH gig last year - still worked for me...

Andrew L, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Webern and his connection to punk. Mr sinkah- Me thinks yr book will baffle and fascinate in equal measure.

Julio Desouza, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh yeah, the early tape/phase stuff is good too. "Pendulum Music" is awesome. I do play the Sonic Youth performance of that. That's before he started making New Age relaxation soundtracks.

np: Anton Webern - Complete Works

sundar subramanian, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

one year passes...
i needed to be reminded of this list tonight

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 24 April 2003 04:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

hope everything is ok jess
that's a great list
oddly enough,i'm set free was the first song i thought of when i saw the thread title...

robin (robin), Thursday, 24 April 2003 04:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

as for steve reich,i saw music for eighteen musicians performed live recently and it was great
two things sprung to mind-first of all,how much it sounded like susumu yokota
secondly,you could tell that he had "influenced" (it's seven in the morning and i'm not arsed trying to find a way of phrasing that in such a way as to avoid people complaining about the use of that term,just pretend i did)techno,or more specifically surgeon...

robin (robin), Thursday, 24 April 2003 04:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
does jess know that i heard "america" being played for about 3,000 people last tuesday?

this is a good list.

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 19 July 2004 05:45 (twenty years ago) link

amateurist: plz explain.

this list is still good therapy.

jess, Monday, 19 July 2004 20:10 (twenty years ago) link

there was an outdoor movie in grant park (downtown chicago) with a lot of people in attendance; the projectionist played "america" before and after the show.

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 19 July 2004 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

nothing on here with an amen, i'm sorta surprised!

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 19 July 2004 21:15 (twenty years ago) link


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