"sting cannot possibly be the same guy who was in the police."

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is the title of a song by atom and his package. i'm inclined to agree. does gordo as a solo artiste have anything to recommend him?

jess, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

the second in (probably not) a series.

jess, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Sting's actually dead, you realize --- after he was tragically eaten alive by his own ego sometime circa `85.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The only thing that doesn't instantly raise my hackles is the song he recorded for the _Leaving Las Vegas_ soundtrack. He didn't write it; just contributed vocals. You will believe the man can legitimately sing.

David Raposa, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

His version of "Mack the Knife," on the _Lost in the Stars_ compilation, is excellent. (That whole album got me through high school, actually--super-great stuff from John Zorn, Tom Waits, Marianne Faithfull, Stan Ridgway, etc.)

I don't think I mind "Love is the Seventh Wave," either, but admittedly I haven't heard it in years. Beyond that, ick.

Quote from Stewart Copeland on the Police "Behind the Music": "In my mind, the Police will always be my band... and Sting's my singer. No, actually--Sting's MY BASS PLAYER."

Douglas, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Damn. My gift to this thread was going to be a particularly brilliant Onion article making this very point. In summary: Sting wanders into a record store. The music playing is really great, really interesting and inventive and solidly written. Sting asks a store employee: "Hey, what is this stuff?" Store employee responds: "This is the Police." Sting buys all of their albums.

Nitsuh, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

yeah, that was a real funny/vicious piece... the best part was how it was done in the first-person :"you know, i used to be cool once".

i just had a sudden and disturbing flashback to the love trio with rod stewart and (shudder) bryan adams from 3 musketeers. maybe it is a different sting...

dave k, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh jesus christ don't remind me. that was an unholy trinity if ever there was one. What was it again "allllllllll for one, and one for all"......er predictably enough.

Ronan, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i actually like the post police stuff with branford and omar hakim. but anything after that is gaymo shit.

chaki, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Is no principle sacred anymore? Solo Sting blows, no doubt, but someone has to take a stand against this revival of the Police's reputation. Repeat after me, people of good conscience:

"The Police were appallingly written maudlin new-wave-sub-reggae- fusion rubbish who might have been tolerable without one of the worst vocalists ever."

sundar subramanian, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

hate to rain on any parades, but the police weren`t too hot either. Large portions of their albums were tripe (its undeniable) and that cod jamaican accent! and those crap album titles..and when exactly did sting get the nose job?

nelly, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Maybe someone punched his smug face in once upon a time.

Speaking as a previous owner of the Police boxset, I have to agree with Nelly's assessment of the ossifers in question. Sting's pretention quotient went way up right about the time that the Police toured the world (or so I gather from the boxset bio). By my estimation, that makes only the 1st two albums worth a damn (if they're worth that).

David Raposa, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I must disagree with this 'and the Police bite too' thesis, as when I was CD shopping today the one store was playing the greatest hits, and I remembered once again why "Every Little Thing She Does is Magic" is a great song, full stop.

Sting himself, I do agree, seems to have been mummified in the nether regions of his own tantrically-trained anus.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Sorry, Ned. The Police bit. :)

Tom, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think Elvis Costello said it best when he said: "somebody punch Sting in his head and tell him to get rid of that fake Jamaican accent!"
But what truly bends my brain into unpleasant shapes is the image of him with the cast iron underwear he wore in Dune

Lord Custos, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

agh! flashback!
Even worse than that was him during some stupid documentary where he was doing yoga in a disgustingly microscopic white speedo. Yick.

Lord Custos, Tuesday, 1 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think Elvis Costello said it best

I heard Sting's response was that he'd stop singing that way when Elvis stopped singing in a crap American accent. I gather there was no follow-up comment from EC.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

But Costello never wore cast iron underwear...at least not in public

Lord Custos, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The whole Sting thing leads to a lot of confusion. I think people are mixing up two different people - Sting, the lead singer and bassist with The Police who went into seclusion on their split, and Monsieur Le Sting, the talented purveyor of coffee table jazz and smooth silky sounds. It's amazing that two musicians should share the same unusual surname, but there it is.

DV, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Well, I've heard Gordon Sumner (ahem, ha!) discuss this issue at length, through interviews and whatnot. His typical response is "I'm not into rock anymore, people's taste change over time, and my progression as a musician shows that." But unfortunately, where it progressed is into sad, sad realms. Stewart Copeland plays with Trey Anastatsstatstio and Les Claypool now...and he still plays like Stewart Copeland. I think Mr. Copeland might end up being the winner in the epic battle of the two egos. Because when people see Stewart Copeland (who where fans of the Police), they usually say "holy shit! fuckin' stewart copeland! you are such a incredible drummer!" and when they see sting, they say "man, i can' believe you used to be in the Police. Your music bites, Fade." yes, i made a DUNE reference!

Gage-o, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

My biggest problem with Sting's career is that he originally claimed to have left the Police because he felt constricted by the three-piece rock band formula and wanted to be able to branch out and try different things. So fine -- he goes off and records "a jazz album" (DREAM OF THE BLUE TURTLES), but after that, sinks into a completely bland and banal formula of workaday "adult contemporary" music that isn't boldly adventurous (nor even properly jazzy) in the slightest. Can you really say that he's stretched the parameters of his capabilities since disbanding the Police? Is his flavorless brand of "pop" so much more dignified that the Police's "rock"?

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

in a wire interview long long long ago, branford marsalis admitted he'd been a YES fan when small: this is the only interesting thing about sting since MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE and/or WALKING ON THE MOON, whichever was last.

mark s, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

As I recall Sting was in a jazz-rock band in Newcastle pre-Police. So his career development has been consistent except for a short commercial sell-out that raised his profile, made some dough and allowed him to indulge the muso fantasy of hiring jazzers like Branford Marsalis. He doesn't actually go as far as playing jazz since:

a he's nowhere near good enough musically b it would not sell, even with his name on the cover c he probably doesn't actually like it, he just thinks he should

ArfArf, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Of course, Sting's Newky jazzrock band was called Last Exit, so logically he should have joined the other Last Exit (the one with Sharrock, Brotzmann and Shannon Jackson) on bass instead of Laswell back in '86 - probably would have made a better job of it too.

In that Morley NME interview back in 1980 he professed his love for Joy Division and Gang of Four and declared himself as interested in the cutting edge, but now moans about the "noisy garbage like Sonic Youths" his son plays.

And as for his fucking fields of gold, can't he put his loose change in his white jodhpurs like everyone else?

Marcello Carlin, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"If You Love Somebody Set Them Free" = most pompous statement of best worldview in worst song

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Of course, Sting's Newky jazzrock band was called Last Exit, so logically he should have joined the other Last Exit (the one with Sharrock, Brotzmann and Shannon Jackson) on bass instead of Laswell back in '86 - probably would have made a better job of it too.

Oh god yes.

Kris, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

As far as the Police go, I think the so-called influences they had on a lot of subsequent melodic rock bands are partially owed to XTC as well.

That said, I think you could make a really nice single CD-R of the best Police songs and leave it at that. I wish they cut loose more with songs like "Voices Inside My Head", as that's an amazing tune.

Brian MacDonald, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

eight years pass...

I am reading Sting's autobio and already 10 pages in he had used the word "manfully."

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

In describing himself.

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

A literal mansplanation.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I like the bit where he returns from a boat trip comparing himself to Odysseus. His pomposity is awe-inspiring.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i didn't even know he had an autobio. what is is it called? "Sting"?

tylerw, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Broken Music: A Memoir

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

i assume the twist at the end is when he reveals that he is not, in fact, the same guy who was in The Police.

tylerw, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Isn't he I Blame Coco's dad? Just terrible, how he's trying to cash in on her success :-(

StanM, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I am reading Sting's autobio and already 10 pages in he had used the word "manfully."

I wonder how many times he uses it in the course of the book. I don't know if it is worth it to find out for myself.

romoing my damn eyes (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha, it might be like the time my friend in junior high bragged he read Stephen King's It and kept tally of how many times the word "fuck" was used.

17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

in a wire interview long long long ago, branford marsalis admitted he'd been a YES fan when small: this is the only interesting thing about sting since MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE and/or WALKING ON THE MOON, whichever was last.
― mark s, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (8 years ago) Bookmark

^^ i do not follow the logic of this statement

thomp, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

it's like that one lydia davis story about the one guy's favourite meal

thomp, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

His 1990 guest spot on Kip Hanrahan's Tenderness is likely the only recorded evidence I can offer of either Sting incarnation. Great album and no, he doesn't detract. There's an annoying stock pic of him in the booklet though.

doug watson, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Sting songs I like:

"Love Is the Seventh Wave"
"Consider Me Gone"

"Fragile" is OK. I think that is it.

Mark, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I am having absolutely no problem with his output up to and including "The Soul Cages" in 1991. "Ten Summoner's Tales" also had its moments, but was increasingly boring and the beginning of the end.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 4 November 2010 11:16 (fourteen years ago) link

in a wire interview long long long ago, branford marsalis admitted he'd been a YES fan when small: this is the only interesting thing about sting since MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE and/or WALKING ON THE MOON, whichever was last.
― mark s, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (8 years ago) Bookmark

^^ i do not follow the logic of this statement

― thomp, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 17:47 (2 days ago) Bookmark

Branford Marsalis played the spoons on a couple of Sting albums iirc

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 4 November 2010 11:31 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, so the 'he' is sting -- for some reason i parsed that as 'the most interesting thing about sting is that branford marsalis was a yes fan when a young person'

thomp, Thursday, 4 November 2010 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link

No, I think you're right the first time: 'the most interesting thing about sting is that branford marsalis (who had a brief try-out on the hurdy gurdy in Sting's band) was a yes fan when a young person'

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 4 November 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago) link

oh ok

thomp, Thursday, 4 November 2010 12:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I think basically that s1nker was bringing Sting zings via Branford triv.

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 4 November 2010 12:13 (fourteen years ago) link


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