Gang Gang Dance is complete and total crap, right?

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Am I wrong? I'm listening to this nonsense and I feel like the band is playing a joke on me. They're somewhere laughing at all the jerks like me who actually gave this piece of garbage a try.

Someone enlighten me. Someone show me the way to appreciate this. Or pat me on the back and hate it with me.

Mackey, Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

they would be so awesome if they had a different singer. she cops yoko ono, which seems super-promising, but she's just so awful. its sort of nightmarish in the way it intends, but when you add the vox, it becomes infinitely more nightmarish, and not at all in a good way.

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 6 January 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

i downloaded, listened, deleted.

Geoffrey Mark Maddock (cutups), Thursday, 6 January 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

i only saw them live - maybe my opinion would be slightly different otherwise.

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 6 January 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

shite.

ddb (ddb), Thursday, 6 January 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

i thought they were crap (mainly because of their name) until i saw them live @ knitting factory this year, but they were really (really) great-- even better than the headliners, animal collective, and that's saying a lot. Maybe I would have liked AC better if they hadn't played, like, two songs of excessively droney crap the whole time.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

droney crap >>>>>>>>>>>> elephant 6 nostalgia >>>> gang gang dance

Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 7 January 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

i like the fusetron album.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 7 January 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

It amazes me that Animal Collective gets called drone.

Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Friday, 7 January 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

TURN OFF ONE RADIO

Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Friday, 7 January 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

ALBUM OF THE YEAR

Just kidding. I haven't heard it yet. If it pisses off ILM I usually guess it's reasonably good; I am right maybe 55% of the time. What kinda stuff is this and what makes it "bad"? Or "nightmarish"?

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Friday, 7 January 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

improv, atonality

answerz (sexyDancer), Friday, 7 January 2005 02:02 (twenty years ago)

uhoh

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Friday, 7 January 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

plus pitchfork hates it! -0.1

Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Friday, 7 January 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)

not so much the improv/atonality aspects as the "onoriginal" aspect of it bothers me. not even executed terribly well.

Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 7 January 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

well, Sung Tongs isn't really drone-- but some of their earlier stuff and ESPECIALLY their live performances are very.... well, droney.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 7 January 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)

You can tell Animal Collective are onto something purely from the genre-based arguments that their music inspires. Some people hear it as Syd Barrett-ish, others as Beach Boys-ish, others as some kind of hellacious Caroliner/Cro-Magnon style caterwaul-fest, others hear it as "noise"/"noize"/noise, others hear it as Romper Room nostalgic kinder-core . . . it's like the blind men and the elephant.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 7 January 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

er and some people just hear it as nothing much soaked in lots of reverb and delay.

SORRY.

anyway, ggd, i like one of their songs okay, it's sorta dubby, but i can't see buying the album, personal politics notwithstanding.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

Campfire Songs was definitely drone. I'd say Sung Tongs has a few tonal "washes" cause I'm feeling wanky. But that could definitely be considered a pop record. Older Animcal Collective, as stated above, tended toward a more drone bent.

But about Gang Gang Dance: I've not seen them live. Perhaps that'd change my opinion, but I seriously doubt it. I could see this being somewhat engaging on stage. In the same way carwrecks tends to grab my attention when I pass by.

However, both of their records have done absolutely nothing for me. And it ain't like I loathe noisey stuff. This just seems like the din of a first grade classroom packaged and passed off as outsider art. That's fuct.

Mackey, Friday, 7 January 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)

it's more the "two songs" bit of that "droney crap" that bothers me. every show i've seen or heard recently consisted of more than two songs and doesn't seem very "droney" to me ... more like a medley. anyhow, the comment reminds me of certain criticisms of the band that seem to say more about the listener hearing more than listening. but yeah, they're juvenile so they can't possibly be complex, right?

Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Friday, 7 January 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

animal collective is SO NOT DRONE

LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Friday, 7 January 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

b-b-b-b-but the songs are so long!

Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Friday, 7 January 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

They're an enchanted jam band.

Mackey, Friday, 7 January 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)

GGD varies wildly. I don't like much of their recordings, aside from Rugs of Prayer. But live sometimes they play these really interesting and great pop songs, which sound like they are coming from different parts of the world. Tim is a an amazing drummer, too.

Magic City (ano ano), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

And I can't believe stencil hasn't dropped this reverb nonsense. One of AC's best albums features nothing but guitars and voices without effects. And I don't rerally hear reverb on Sung Tongs. It's fine if you don't like them, but you need a new argument.

Magic City (ano ano), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:30 (twenty years ago)

dude i have not heard their albums, just seen them live, which was a reverb-and-delay-(and not much else)fest. And it was clear I was joking above anyway, so lighten up. It's not like I killed your dog just because I don't like some band you like.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:33 (twenty years ago)

are you telling me my dog is dead?

Magic City (ano ano), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)

dude, no, fido is okay. trust me.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

stop callimg me dude. i don't even know you.

Magic City (ano ano), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

i call everybody dude, dude. even chix. stop being so testy on teh internet!!!

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

o you were obviously kidding but I am really upset.

Magic City (ano ano), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

it's so hard to tell!!! perhaps more "emoticons" or whatever the kids call them.

I could banter all night, or at least until the caffeine wears off.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

;)

Magic City (ano ano), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

that's the ticket!

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

Anyway my only point was that they write actual songs, good ones, I think. I can understand that not coming through in the live show, though.

Magic City (ano ano), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

interestingly enough, i know the guy who engineered one of their records (uh, the latest one?) and that makes me curious, but I'd never buy. not until i get my headphones back, maybe.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

you know rusty? i used to live with him for a little while. he was never around but was a swell guy.

Magic City (ano ano), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

rusty rules! i love you magic city, who are you? GGD are hardly complete and total crap.
SORRY.

noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 7 January 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

I saw AC at both their North Six show and Knitting Factory show late last year...there was a greater degree of reverb and delay than on the albums, and elements of drone...but, in reality, the songs are becoming quite more intricate and less droney than previous full-band outings...they seem to be combining the experimental elements of HCTI with the melody of Sung Tongs and Campfire Songs...its possible that they're the type of band you have to have watched evolve rather than one you can make a judgement from seeing one show...but I'm surprised anyone could dismiss them as crap after seeing either of those breathtaking performances....Gang Gang Dance were intresting, but nothing I'll seek out a CD from

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

not rusty, paul oldham. I can't really imagine GGD chilling out in Shelbyville, KY but weirder things have probably happened.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

i like ggd well enough based on the fusetron cd.

reed (smile), Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

I bought the first Gang Gang Dance album, at least i think it was the first. It was self titled. I like it. My girlfriend doesn't.

Speaking of bands you suspect are a huge joke, the Junior Boys. Can someone please explain to me what that is all about?

Daniel Spencer, Monday, 10 January 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
new album is actually listenable!!

a, Friday, 25 March 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, someone was telling me they play actual songs now. I haven't heard any of it, though, so I can't be positive.

I don't trust it.

Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 25 March 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)

No, I heard it, it's sounds good. It's all the songs I descibed above thusly:
"But live sometimes they play these really interesting and great pop songs, which sound like they are coming from different parts of the world."
But really they sound like they are being influenced by the sounds of pop songs from all over the world.

mitch dub (ano ano), Friday, 25 March 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

http://www.urban.ne.jp/home/ubik/cinema/neverend.jpg

Elric Gelfling (sexyDancer), Friday, 25 March 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

well shit if ian doesn't trust it, back to the drawing board...

noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 25 March 2005 03:50 (twenty years ago)

Kids these days...

Mr. Harvey Weinstein (mr harvey weinstein), Friday, 25 March 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

http://servicios.elcorreodigital.com/vizcaya/pg040906/prensa/fotos/200409/06/091D1VIZ001_1.jpg

Ian, hard at work not trussin' it ... also, lampin'.

Mr. Harvey Weinstein (mr harvey weinstein), Friday, 25 March 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

dan hougland: eat a dick. i'm sorry i do not like every trendy NYC shit band.

i smoke less rock than flava flav.

Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 25 March 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)

this dude packages his uppercuts with a kiss ^^

the trouble is that too many people use the line 6 to take the cheap way out. the damned machine just grew ubiquitous in a very unintersting way.

but now im rather entertained by herr noizez duk communicating only via mooger fooger.

bb, Thursday, 12 July 2007 12:56 (seventeen years ago)

(those people that choose to use a delay rather than depend on are forgiven) = "in the air tonight"

creme1, Saturday, 14 July 2007 05:42 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

anyone see them last night in London?

micarl, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 22:48 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, they were great but as I tried explaining how great they were somewhere else I realised my descriptive style is roughly at the local newspaper level. Anyway, yep, great, keyboard broke, borrowed a keyboard off Alexis Taylor which helped but they still couldn't do loads of stuff, seemed to just jam for ages with massive 4-person drum freakouts.

Uh. I'd see them again, maybe w/Animal Collective in Brixton.

Stryder's on the Orme (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:20 (sixteen years ago)

How could you look at that Mikata album and think it would likelier be crap than great?

bamcquern, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:33 (sixteen years ago)

seven months pass...

Just saw them last night. Was completely blown away. One of the best live acts I've seen in a really long time.

Just got signed to 4ad too. They deserve it. I suggest you all go see them if they come around.

gman59, Saturday, 16 January 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

yeah they're great live. i took my brother and his girlfriend to see them a few years back, they'd never even heard of them, and they both completely loved the show. hoping to catch them at big ears.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 16 January 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

They've signed to 4ad?

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 16 January 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

do they sound different after all their equipment burned up ??
i haven't seen them in a really long time.. kind of regret i was not in a position to go last night..
was there a good crowd ? i dont think it sold out

tramp steamer, Saturday, 16 January 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)

nothing much soaked in lots of reverb and delay

this is a nice thought, about AC or in general.

ogmor, Saturday, 16 January 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

i thought i heard that at the show. maybe they didn't get signed.

anyhow show was great. yah it sold out day of. crowed was cool. everyone seemed to be genuinely into what was going on.

gman59, Saturday, 16 January 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

ive not been into the last few albums but saw them live in june here and they were like a noisey soca jam band, really entertaining

straightola, Monday, 18 January 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

Gang Gang Dance sign to 4AD; new album this year

^ hey, good call gman

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Friday, 22 January 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)

like a noisey soca jam band

Not another one of those, they're everywhere (I'm kidding)

curmudgeon, Friday, 22 January 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

i dunno, everytime i've been excited by a new album by a band going from "under">"over"ground its been pretty disappointing, but i do feel like these guys r on a + trajectory

plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

hmm i cant see them going overground in any big way; seemed like the last album was the real leap into artistic aceness. but then a thousand people will tell me source tags and codes was the big trail of dead moment when i know it was Madonna, so whatever

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 22 January 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if the new record will have Lil Wayne guest verses.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

I listened to their last album a couple times on ILMs recommendations and it was fucking horrible. I can understand how they could be different live but on record... ugh

I'm bored, I think I'll become a beatnik (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

even house jam? come on

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

he crazy. the whole album rules. Warp are silly for letting them go, if indeed they did (maybe wasn't a long term deal)

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 22 January 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)

this was at least a year ago so I couldn't differentiate any of the tracks from one another at this date, but my memory was just that I didn't really ... get the point of it, I guess. I don't have any trouble with atonality or improv or dance beats or tribal drumming or weird production or whatever but it just seemed like this amorphous, directionless mess, full of ugly sounds with no coherence or melodies or even ideas really. It was the aural equivalent of sifting through garbage.

I'm bored, I think I'll become a beatnik (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)

This is Saint Dymphna you are talking about?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)

and REALLY don't get how this could have any conceivable commercial appeal. people (not necessarily me, but audiences at large) are engaged by song structures and hooks and repetition and so on, and I didn't hear anything like that

I'm bored, I think I'll become a beatnik (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

gimme Oneida or AC any day

I'm bored, I think I'll become a beatnik (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

they would be so awesome if they had a different singer. she cops yoko ono, which seems super-promising, but she's just so awful. its sort of nightmarish in the way it intends, but when you add the vox, it becomes infinitely more nightmarish, and not at all in a good way.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, January 6, 2005 9:08 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark

im almost certain id feel different now

69, Friday, 22 January 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

seems like shakey mo was listening to the earlier recordings and not St. dphymaxia!! cuz his complaints were exactly like mine until i heard St. dpnynmaxiapedicab...

┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)

maybe I downloaded the wrong thing or something

I'm bored, I think I'll become a beatnik (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)

u dont get it

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Friday, 22 January 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

seems like shakey mo was listening to the earlier recordings and not St. dphymaxia!! cuz his complaints were exactly like mine until i heard St. dpnynmaxiapedicab...

― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Friday, January 22, 2010 9:58 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

LOL secret scrabble reference

69, Friday, 22 January 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

i mean, there are 2-3 songs that i can see how your assessment fits, but most of the rest of it is way more focused, realized, "pop", "grime", "hey wouldn't it be cool if we were the post-00s Boredoms too!", etc.

xp lol

┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 22 January 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)

I actually really like the last couple of things. God's Money and the Rawwar EP both have some pretty poppy moments. Not Vampire Weekend or whatever though.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 22 January 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

saw em live after their drummer got his arms fucked up and holy shit that dude rules

super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 22 January 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)

last few times i've caught them they've been particularly amazing. we had them support animal collective at a huge 4000+ capacity show in london last summer and they were incredible.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 22 January 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)

I just listened to House Jam again and um yeah, I don't get the appeal. is it just me or does no one notice that stuff sounds, well, sequenced wrong? Like the beats don't maintain an even tempo, samples aren't synched together, pieces come in and out of the mix off-beat...? or is that the appeal

Prof. Einstein Geniuspants (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 January 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

Like the beats don't maintain an even tempo, samples aren't synched together, pieces come in and out of the mix off-beat...? or is that the appeal

they are not das robots!

┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 22 January 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)

oh so the "House Jam" title is ironic

Prof. Einstein Geniuspants (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 January 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

st dymphna is sooooo fuckin good

call all destroyer, Friday, 22 January 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

Yes I was at that AC Brixton show and they were absolutely awesome, possibly even better than the headliners ;)...I should give them another chance.

David Katz (davek_00), Friday, 22 January 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

that night was so good; forget all the AC haters, we were just loving the fact that a band who despite their success are still a REALLY weird group playing to so many people and nobody really walking out! pretty heartwarming to see them get that success after so much work over 10 or so years.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 22 January 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

they would be so awesome if they had a different singer. she cops yoko ono, which seems super-promising, but she's just so awful. its sort of nightmarish in the way it intends, but when you add the vox, it becomes infinitely more nightmarish, and not at all in a good way.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, January 6, 2005 9:08 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark

im almost certain id feel different now

― 69, Friday, 22 January 2010 21:56 (2 months ago

Saw 'em live in DC last night. Instrumentally fun (all the percussion, the keys, etc) but repetitious, vocally weak. Her vocals were definately the weak link.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:40 (fifteen years ago)

i think she's great?, kinda confused to hear otherwise. she has a pedal to bring some of the radio-swirliness to her live vox too iirc. feel like her vocals sort of broaden their sound a lot, they can get too guitarry i think.

egregious apostrophising (schlump), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)

Impatient for the new LP, whenever that's going to arrive. Anyone hear the track on the 4AD ep?

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)

x-post. I like the idea of vocals broadening the sound, I just did not like the way live her yelps and screaching and sounds fit in. Some of the time they were buried live last night as was the guitar, with the keyboard, samples, her percussion and the drummer being most prominent in the mix.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

six months pass...

Anyone hear this new 15 minute single (that sounds like Gang Gang Dance's version of "Djed" hah)?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 8 October 2010 12:40 (fourteen years ago)

five months pass...

this latitudes EP is pretty awful.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

Gang Gang Dance is complete and total crap, right?

yes

Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

rong

Destroy A. Monsters (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't really enjoy the Latitudes thing on first listen either, ian... gonna give it another listen soon.

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

I really like the 11-minute track that was going around the blogs a few weeks ago. That's my frist exposure to the band since their earliest material, which I didn't much like.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

check out St. Dymphna which has some really great songs on it

Destroy A. Monsters (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)


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