Artists talking to their fans/detractors on message boards C/D?

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So, the Junior Boys came on ILX with a very nice thank-you, Drew from Soft Pink Truth was on the thread for his new album, an entity which could have been Jam(e)s Murphy just popped on the LCD Soundsystem thread to bitch people out. Rivers Cuomo talked a lot to his fans on message boards, which seemed to detract from his song writing, but correlation is not causation... Also, Courtney Love posted on the Hole message boards, although I’ve never read these. There are also a few on ILX who seem to keep relatively quiet on threads about them.

Is this type of communication great, or inane?

I’m inclined to say it’s classic because its either charming and nice, or unintentionally hilariously awkward. But it seems like artists don’t really benefit from scouring the interweb and firing back at their detractors. It just makes them seem kinda lame and bored. Aren’t they supposed to be to busy to care?

― Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Friday, 7 January 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

Marissa Marchant, for instance?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 7 January 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

ehh, they're people, you know

― Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Friday, 7 January 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

Totally. I just think that internet offers a very different type of artist-fan interaction than previously possible. I wonder if it is value neutral.

― Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Friday, 7 January 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

For what it's worth, I felt like a jackass immediately after posting to the Soft PInk Truth thread, not that I was denouncing anybody or disagreeing or anything, but just my mere presence on that thread was a turnoff, I reckon. I mean the whole point of ILM/ILX is a certain no bullshit honesty, if you think something sucks you say so. If artists "hang out" when they're being discussed it gets awkward or narcissistic, it gets in the way of it being a forum. On the other hand, I loved it when Beck posted in the middle of all those Amazon customer reviews of his album.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 7 January 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

HAH I missed that. Which one, Sea Change?

― xAARONHZx, EXTREME ILXOR LOOK ALL CAPS (AaronHz), Friday, 7 January 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

I liked it when Kanye West was a regular.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 7 January 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

i liked it when kurt ralske appeared on the ultra vivid scene thread to say he was a bit embarrased about his albums!

― debden, Friday, 7 January 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

@nt0n N3wc0mbe to thread... (and mind you, he would be on this thread like a shot)

― Masonic Boom-Boom (kate), Friday, 7 January 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

Jam(e)s Murphy is Yancey, btw.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 7 January 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was just James Murphy playing at Yancey's house.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 7 January 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

(murphy and yancey play house? hm.)

as per ralske, his appearance was indeed fascinating.
and i for one always read drew's posts when i chance on them. with momoppotamus's, it 'depends and varies', sort of.

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 7 January 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

why not? It's a better forum than others if you want to say something to an artist.. when Drew posted here I remembered seeing Matmos play at this little record store (Frederick, MD) and how I'd wanted to say hello to them afterward but all the gearhead boys went right up front and started asking a bunch of technical questions about turntables, and I didn't have the nerve to speak up.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 7 January 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

That was at the Schloss Tegal guy's record store, right? It was so weird, this little patch of hardcore gothed out dark industrial people in this cute lil town. That was stuffy, temperature wise.

xpost-

aaron, I think it was Midnite Vultures maybe?

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Bushwick Bill should post more often.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Artists posts on ILM

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Courtney Loves posts on those hole board are fucking gold. Drunken, drug addled fucking comedy gold.

― major jingleberries (jingleberries), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

are those courtney love posts archived anywhere?

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

Schloss Tegal! Yes, it was. The store has closed since then, sadly. I went with a college friend from Frederick who was indeed one of the handful of dark industrial people in that town. We saw the rest of 'em afterward in the smoking room at Denny's, of course.

I used to read Courtney's posts on the Hole site - does she still write there? I think they're great, though not in the comedy gold sense..

Drew, her current (as of last year) stuff is on Hole's Kittyradio.com site, in the forums. You have to register to search and read and all, I must have signed up back then but lost my info. Once you're in the site I didn't have any trouble tracking down posts under Courtney's username - though I can't recall if it was actually "Courtney" or not, her avatar thing was Joan Crawford. Back in the mid 90s she'd also posted a bunch of stuff on AOL apparently, which used to be archived somewhere on the internets.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

A-ha! This is the 94-95 stuff:

http://www.kkc.net/eyenet/1994/courtney.txt

I heart Courtney. What can I say.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

here is the rivers cuomo stuff.

http://members.shaw.ca/ridd2/rca.html

― Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

Jesus that Courtney shit is hard to read. My brane hurts.

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

Math rockers are stoic testerical bastards who only want to
discuss the effect of never taking one typing class,as if I were preparing myself for a future CLERICAL position! actually,the truth is i nod out so much on the keyboard that i drop my smokes on it- anyone want my used Mac 180c-its got genuine Heroine Burns on it

haha

― Carl Winslow and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

(and mind you, he would be on this thread like a shot)

He's already been here a few times, try to get his mailing list to invade at one time. GYBE's 'spokeman' laid into the mailing list in the midst of an European tour, thats one that sticks out pretty well.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

should i just go back to
college?Bennington!Wellesly!Harvard!!!!...uh.....EVERGREEN!!!!!!!!
IVe only got 2 terms left for a nifty degree in guess what......THATS
RIGHT!THE SAME AS ALL THE REST OF YOU!!!!.........LIBERAL ARTS!!!!!!!!!we all know how far that gets us in our streamlined modern world,the world of the fast track and the information superhighway! YOU JUST WON AN INTERN JOB AT MTV AND I AM GROSSLY OVER FAMOUS!!!!For what?

Hooray!

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

testerical should be like the male equivalent to hysterical. awesome. or is it already?

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

Deadsy posts all over their message board, or they used to. So do Scissor Sisters.

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

This girl I used to know would direct me to the hole msg boards to show how together courtney was. All I saw was the typing equivalent to slurred drunk talk.

― major jingleberries (jingleberries), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

I miss Saul Williams.

― donut christ (donut), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

don't forget Momus and like our boy from excepter!

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

boyz

― noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah sorry duder! fuck, that was lame of me.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

tho i've been scolded for going on any specifically about us, by guess who

― noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

I only like it when the "artists" leave the board in a big huff.

― Danzig and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

btw say hi to mr. corbin for me sometime, i never see that guy around anymore.

xpost y'know i still haven't heard you dudes.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

corbin not represented yet record-wise, but i for one can't wait.

― noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

Deadsy posts all over their message board, or they used to. So do Scissor Sisters.
-- Atnevon (HolyAkash...), January 7th, 2005.

what else does Deadsy have to to do? im sure they have plenty of spare time...

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

OTM

― noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

I am actually Ghostface

― roit gaer, Friday, 7 January 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

But would it be possible- at least in theory - for an artist to post here, NEVER REVEALING HIS TRUE IDENTITY, with basically noble intent, but nevertheless, because of the self-interest that insures the survival of the species and is present in every person until they are lowered into the ground in, say, A WOODEN BOX, all the while attempting to manipulate opinion in order to insure his musical legacy, using all the cunning of a Dr. Mabuse ,especially if this legacy is in need of rehabilitation. His motivations may not be entirely free of financial concerns- after all there is no greater motivator than THE WOLF AT THE DOOR. Just a theory.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

Kenny Rogers!

― roit gar!, Friday, 7 January 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

Ssh! Keep it to yourself. If my records don't start selling soon, I'm gonna got that Quick-Picking Fun-Strummin'Home Guitar Course fired up again- that's gotta work.

And it's too bad that Maurice Gibb is no longer with us- I was hoping on another hit from those boys.

― Ken R (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

Now that I think of it "roit", are you sure you aren't this recording artist?

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

Dude, I just spent a half an hour poring through the amazon reviews for midnight vultures. Nobody home. You owe me a dollah.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

Dude, I just spent a half an hour poring through the amazon reviews for midnight vultures. Nobody home. You owe me a dollah.

Whew. I was hoping someone would do this for me and report back with the results.

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

Are all those Nipsey Russell reviews still on there? I'm not making this up.

― Ken L R Everything (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)

So sorry to have given you a bum steer. It may have been Sea Change, but goldurn, I swear I remember seeing it on Amazon, and my apparently faulty memory was of it in connection to Midnite Vultures. Color me embarassed.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

Alright, I'm going in.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

xxpost:
He is! Two different photos.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Saul should have stuck around.

I can't believe this thread has gotten to near 50 posts without any mention of Momus.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

don't forget Momus and like our boy from excepter!

-- hstencil (hstenc!...), January 7th, 2005.

jerk.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

I have been told that the lead singer of Hope of the States was very active on his bands message board until the album came out and the hard core didn't like it (godspeeed + embrace = hope of the states) so he wrote an essay telling them how selfish and shit they were and left in a huff. Then came a new hardcore of libertines fans and all was right with the world.

― elwisty, Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh, dude.
I just skimmed 44fuckin'4 Amazon reviews of Sea Change.
You owe me TWO dollahs.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

I always liked it when dj technics posted on ilm.

― deej., Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

xpost:
Amazon celebrity posting is all about the Nipsey.

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

Classic

It shows that artists are just as big of dorks as the rest of us.

I mean can you imagine George Bush posting to a potentially hostile message board?

― hector (hector), Saturday, 8 January 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

me and tom from jomf lurk and post on here alot..we feel its a better sounding board than most and the amount of music that flows between th ears is vast..it's good to have dialogue w people about music.yurs ,theirs ,yur neighbors,,whoever..we have been hepped to stuff we wouldnt otherwise and its not becuz we r bored ..just innerested
dan

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Saturday, 8 January 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

do we all remember that great Ann Rice response to crap reviews on Amazon for the book she wrote that never saw an editor? 'my art has surpassed th need for editing by peons, and if you can't evolve alongside me, than you must be STUPID!'

total classic.

― derrick (derrick), Saturday, 8 January 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

Hey dan, now that you're here, which of you bunnybrains was at a party with a bunch of Scrabble word freaks way over on the west side, near where Automatic Slims was/is? Maybe it was New Years? Maybe I'm having a false memory?

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

Stina Nordenstam has posted a few times on her messageboard at seekyoudanger.com. She also took some questions from fans way back during the People Are Strange era in the late '90s.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:26 (twenty years ago)

Whoa, I'm from Frederick. Was tha Interzone the store that Matmos played at? i never really got to reap the benefits of that store as it intimidated me when I was younger and then closed while I was in high school.

― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

I'm not from Frederick but I've got some in my name.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 8 January 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

Frederick (a.k.a. Fredneck) was also home to 1/2 Japanese.

― contribute, Saturday, 8 January 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

Ha, I once worked for a music software company, and we sold some stuff to Jad Fair.

IT ALL COMES FULL CIRCLE

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 8 January 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

Yay, Fredneck. Interzone it was. I had a friend who used to go there all the time. Once, he brought his mom along, and walked in to find the guy working there was sitting in the back wearing, like, nothing but a leather thong and meditating while listening to dark ambient. Unless my friend totally made up this story. Who knows.

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 8 January 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

the bunnybrains left their big pink bunny at my radio station(WCBN in ann arbor, MI) like 2-3 years ago. we had it wrapped in duct tape and shoved head first into the microwave over for a while. no idea where it is now.

― kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 8 January 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

Mark E Smith has left a hilarious message to his fans over here.

You can even download him reading it. It's a bit perverse.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...

DFA's James Murphy lays into disgruntled fan:
http://forums.dfarecords.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=473

― van igloo (van smack), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

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