So BBC Radio One gets on with life after John Peel...

As I said before, 'irreplacable' is often used when someone famous/cool dies, but in this case it's in more ways than umm a few.

I guess the best way is to draw up some sort of mission statement and carry it through.

Good luck, those guys.

Having said that, they should just do their own thing without worrying about the Peel legacy, I think.

This doesn't bode well.

(I know Huw Stephens and in terms of his taste he is no John Peel, but I'd expect him to carry on that diverse legacy with a bit more sincerity than Rob 'Da' fucking Bank)

do you think the world can be divided up neatly into people who like A but not B, people who like B but not A, people who like both B and A (freaks) and people who have no interest in either A or B?

Escape(the pina colada song)

I like Rob Da Bank. And stop making fun of his name. It's Brazilian.

Bethan likes a bit of everything, but mainly Placebo, the Lighthouse Family, and really dull jazz. When Bethan and Huw get together, sparks fly.

Strangely enough, when I mentioned this at work a few months ago, some guy out of the blue said "I've got a Terminal Cheesecake record". Wonders will never cease.

I don't think I ever particularly enjoyed John Peel's program. I learnt a great deal more good music from Annie Nightingale's request show.

Does he have a manly handshake?

Nick, what's Home Truths?

what? at least Rob Da Bank could feasibly have a biog which says more interesting stuff than "he doesn't like Placebo".

I'm guessing the situation now is a much about a failure to replace John Walters as anything else.

Because music is THAT small a universe!

How does NK's second recording of Da 4 Seasons differ from his first?

So could anyone. Strange as it may seem, a miniature biog on his official webpage doesn't encompass the entirety of his taste in music. That was the point I was trying to make

Above all it will provide support to emerging genres of music and styles that have not yet and may never reach the mainstream.

That's part of the problem for me. John Peel's show was as much about genre-less music as anything else, bizarre one-offs who you'd have a hard time linking up with other currents in music. And it was also just as much about genres whose time had come and gone, new takes on old things. That sort of mission statement makes me think they'll be spending their time trying to second guess what it'll be hip to listen to next week rather than any deeper sort of engagement with the artist.

which makes sense.

"He likes Lemonjelly"

Huw Stephens- Indie bands that can't get into the top 40
Rob Da Bank- Electronica that can't get into the top 40
Ras Kwame- "This is out on Def Jux on Monday"

i think it's absolute horsewank. trying to bring together three people presenting three different shows under one contrived banner means nothing at all.

it fucking irritates me, the way the bbc wang on about peel being "irreplacable". if they'd maybe invested in, nurtured and encouraged some actual talent, rather than taking on glorified playlist-robots who wouldn't rock the boat, we might have found some worthy successors. as it is, they've lost their last remaining individual, and they've no idea what to do.

and no, i didn't listen to peel all that regularly. but that's not the point. he was a champion broadcaster who wasn't afraid to take risks, to stick his neck out, to play stuff that nobody else in the world was gonna like. and the very fact the bbc is trying to compartmentalise these three presenters into being "the voices of new music" or whatever will, of course, only constrict them and hamper their freedom even further.

this, though, is what happens when you spend 20 years running a radio station into the ground. fucking wankers. the sooner the bbc loses its charter, the better.

I have photographic evidence, but I'm not going to post it out of respect.

Mind you, as Dom points out, I'm not sure I like the unstated (but implied) genre boundaries. Hopefully the lines aren't going to be quite that clearly delineated.

Yeah 'cos commercial radio does this stuff so much better, doesn't it?

ssh, don't wake him...

>The program around that time was a barely listenable mixture of acid
>house and world music.

am i the only one who thinks this sounds good?

>I don't think I ever particularly enjoyed John Peel's program. I
>learnt a great deal more good music from Annie Nightingale's request
>show.

the 'request show' part of this is interesting as the last 3 shows RDB did were partly audience requests of old festive fifty tracks, partly the team's choice of old FF favourites and the new FF and were probably the best peel shows that RDB has done (and he seemed to be enjoying them). but i don't think a request show format would work and it'd ignore the 'bands sending in demos' aspect which i think is key.

I guess I wasn't arguing that a request show was better, merely that I heard music that I like more in the '80s on Annie Nightingale's program that John Peel's.

I dunno how much she played was actually requests anyway. It'd have been pretty easy, particularly on a nationally broadcast show to just make the requests up and play whatever you like.

er, yes?

xxx-post: yes, it was. thank you.

Huw on tuesday sounded like a Welsh Lamacq (= bad). Melys session ok.
Ras last night just sounded like 2 hours of 1Xtra. Started so well but...

RDB tonight and i'm hoping for better things.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/onemusic/rob/index.shtml

still lots missing though...

I admittedly have not listened to the replacement shows, so cannot categorically dismiss them, but have to honestly say:

The house is clearly not in order, per se; why encourage them to 'do their own thing'. They should be doing the *BBC* thing, and I mean in the Reithian sense - encouraging an 'educational' approach to 'art'. Peel was always this in the best way; *inclusive*, with a dour, 'ordinary bloke' approach which belied and complemented his subsersive choice of music (yes, particularly with Waters alongside him, it seems).

I abhor the sentiments up-thread that the BBC as we know it, and have known it, should be discontinued, but have to suggest they must look again at their whole approach to music. As said above, they need enthusiastic new DJs who pay no heed to 'fashion', 'consensus' or 'cool'.

listened to the second Huw Stephens show due to lack of better things to do and actively enjoyed it. nice to hear the welsh band names not murdered by RDB 8) there also seemed to be a few more classic tracks played but this may have been a coincidence (new Mogwai session cd, for instance, gives them an excuse to dig out the old, funny mogwai tracks). new quickspace was a surprise. new camera obscura. (all, i realise, peel favourites). only had to hit the +5 minute button once 8)

Andy Parfitt, the Radio 1 controller, said: "Peel Day is about celebrating John's legacy and his unrivalled passion for music. It'll be a day of gigs taking place up and down the country, something we feel will be a fitting tribute to John."

http://media.guardian.co.uk/radio/story/0,12636,1554721,00.html