TS: Nevermind vs. Foo Fighters

I prefer the Foo Fighters, actually. Less stupid baggage. Less deification. Better tunes.

I choose Nevermind.

Oh yeah, but "Lifestyles Of the RIch & Famous" and "I Just Wanna Live"....yeah, those are real timeless anthems.

kurt was a singer

...and Dave's a better one.

Everlong, my favorite song of all time, is not on this album.

this isnt a contest at all, no matter how allergic to drama you may be. nevermind hands down.

Allergic to hype, you mean.

i don't worship cobain or anything, but his excellence is only highlighted when put head-to-head with dave "mediocrity" grohl.

If the battle were between Nevermind and The Colour and the Shape, Grohl would win no question.

It occurred to me that this was a young person who was unaware that he had been in a band before Foo Fighters. I felt suddenly very old.

"You mean Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?"

Johnny: the McCartney bit is an old joke.

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Revelation of the day/week/month - Kilian likes the same two Foo songs I like the most.

...and Dave's a better one.

I agree with Alex on this one (big surprise, eh). In fact by just about any standard I can't see why anyone would say Kurt was a better singer. It's entirely possible that someone could prefer Kurt's songs, Nirvana's recordings, Nirvana's albums, Kurt's guitar playing or some other aspect of comparison, but jesus people, Dave can actually sing. What Kurt does with his throat may be full of emotion and angst, but by comparison it's hardly singing.

Somewhere on a drumming-related message board, I recently saw a young person wondering what Dave Grohl was doing on the cover of a drumming magazine.

I remember when I borrowed There is Nothing Left to Lose from my roommate and heard it for the first time. I happened to be in my room using my computer as a cd player, so I discovered the "enhanced" stuff on the CD (which was if I recall just an assortment of video junk and the full video for "Learn to Fly"). Anyhow I poked around the quicktime videos and stuff and then exited the little player program... The thing was set up so that when you closed it, it played one last video clip before closing. The last clip was Dave sitting on a couch with a bottle of whiskey, faux drunk, slurring his speech. He says something to the effect of "Hey, don't tell me about making a great rock record! I was in fucking Nirvana!"

At the time I remember thinking "Oh yeah, he was in Nirvana."

Now, I'm definitely old enough to know he was "the drummer for Nirvana" first, but at that point I had started thinking of him as "the main dude in the Foo Fighters" first. Which, I think, says something about the worth of the Foo Fighters. Cause, come on, does anybody think of Krist as "that dude from Sweet 75" or "the bass player from Eyes Adrift?"

I DON'T KNOW WHY I'D RATHER BE DEAD THAN COOL

so i guess i agree with you

Hmmmm...dunno about that one. The Foos are ridiculously catchy (as Grohl doesn't have some cross to bear about his music being popular like Kurt did).

Also, I have to admit I'm partial to the sound of the Foo Fighters from a production standpoint. Which is to say I'd rather hear overdrive/distortion coming from a dimed tube amp than from a Rat or a Big Muff or one of those orange Boss pedals. (I got nothing against pedals at all, mind you. I just think amp running full bore > pedal when it comes to distortion-based guitar sounds.)

Dispite being overplayed, overhyped, old, copied sound, it still fucking sounds brilliant.

i dream about making a song with the same mainstream effect and punch as 'smells like teen spirit'. Nothing on That FF debut does the same thing.

Forgive my ignorance, but if Kurt didn't write this, then who did?

he picked his old sayings wisely.

"Good Grief" and "Exhausted" I think might be the best songs on the Foos album, and neither of them are as good anything on Nevermind. They're both great songs though.

One of these days people will remove all the context surrounding Nevermind and realize how amazing it is. Until then, I still hate Nirvana threads.

That said, I still prefer the Foo Fighters.

N.W.A had a number one album earlier in 1991 without any airplay (hell, you still can't hear that album on the radio), and shaped modern music far more than Nirvana has. 1991's real legacy was Billboard switching to Soundscan so that it reflected what people bought, not what record companies told store clerks to tell Billboard what people bought.

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embarrassing? maybe, but be honest!

Yeah, Everlong's a great song, but it's NOT ON THE FIRST FOO FIGHTERS ALBUM. Ponces.