the omnipresence of franz ferdinand and the scissor sisters in every end of year poll

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fuck both of them. not cos i think theyre shit, but cos im sick to the back teeth of hearing and reading and about them. and theyre both completely overrated and overhyped. neither made perfect or amazingly flawless albums, good as they were. but youd think they reinvented the wheel of pop as we know it or something. how many broadsheet or mainstream write ups does anyone need of the same artist over and over again? is there that little else for people to write about?????

strangely, one of the best things ive heard as of late is the SS doing a slowed down remake of FF's take me out.

― ppp, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

.. best of what's around?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

pulling only makes it tighter

― Stevem On X (blueski), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

I read a review of a Scissor Sisters concert in an Irish broadsheet which talked about their version of "Take Me Out" but called the song "Crosshair". How the fuck could a music writer get the title of one of the biggest songs of the year wrong????

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

He's not actually a music writer, he just plays one in the paper.

― nader (nader), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

".. and later they played "Hello hello is there anybody out there" and finished off with "I'm gonna need your love""

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

i'm always getting titles by The Frank Fergusons wrong

― Stevem On X (blueski), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Those were my #1 and #2 albums of the year, actually. I don't think they "reinvented the wheel of pop," I just thought they made exciting, ambitious, heartfelt, diverse records that I enjoyed more than anything else I heard last year. Doesn't need to be any more complicated or any more overhyped than that.

So: Classic.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

i think there are two separate issues there: do they deserve their acclaim in the end of year lists? and have they been over-exposed in the media?

my answer to both is yes. i wasn't too keen on the scissors album but i can see why others would rate it. ss and ff released two of 2004's best albums.

they both came out early last year, too. so by december we'd all be thoroughly bored to death by them...

www.themusicradar.co.uk

― se3_uk, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

People really shouldn't be reading every year end poll.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Franz what? Scissor who?

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

but did you hear about how they're named after that assassinated Austrian duke guy that started World War I? Whoah! Crazy!

(but seriously: I think the problem here is more one of the clumsy, monolithic press corps in action than anything in the music. the market requires hype...)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Have the Scissor Sisters really been on that many year-end polls, though? (Maybe in the UK; I don't know.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

but did you hear about how they're named after that assassinated Austrian duke guy that started World War I?

I just realized the other day that with the popularity of Franz Ferdinand and the Decemberists that the 1910s are the NEW HOT DECADE.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

The scissor sisters redeemed themselves by producing that great kylie track.

― deej., Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

"Have the Scissor Sisters really been on that many year-end polls, though?"

yes.

i like both these bands (SS especially) so i guess classic.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm not a big fan of FF save a few singles (I just nuked half the album from my iPod when I realized I'd never listen to most of it), and the same goes for Scissor Sisters (in their case, though, it's because I've only heard a few singles), but I figure it's no big deal if they get a lot of lurve from the press. (Which, in this case, seems to be "the British press and a few American mags trying to stay 'with-it'".)

Whenever someone gripes "urgh I'm sick of Franz/Stripes/Strokes/Libertines/[any other band I could either really love or be apathetic towards but am entirely bored with seeing slagged on ILM]" I feel like asking them what they'd want to see hyped instead. I'm guessing it's even more boring esoteric dead-end indie rock or chart pop that's getting plenty of hype already.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I was shocked that the scissor sisters had such huge sales in the UK. I knew they were big across the pond, but not THAT big.

― major jingleberries (jingleberries), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

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