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any horror stories? my friend Br4nd0n was just told for the first time ever that he couldn't bring his banjo onto the plane with him, that he'd have to check it. it was in a soft case. naturally he argued but there was a long line of impatient people behind him and he got flustered and they said they'd check it if he signed something, so he did, but he didn't realize that the thing he was signing was a fom releasing the airline for any damage to his instrument. when it came down the baggage-claim ramp the headstock was snapped off. he immediately took a bus to Boston to commiserate with his luthier, right from the aurport.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

AURRRRRRRRR he was as mad as i pirate i tell ya.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

my co-worker foolishly allowed his record case to be checked for a trans-atlantic flight 6-7 years ago and is still hunting for replacements for some of the rarer stuff.

superultramega (superultramarinated), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Never try to fly discount airlines (Buzz, Ryanair) in Europe with a heavy amp. They charge you for the extra weight. Shit costs so much money.

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

how about the special allowances for "Kumbaya"-singing nuns?

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

Quite some time ago a friend of mine checked a very nice 12 string acoustic in a hardshell case... The case protected the guitar just fine, but my friend didn't loosen the tension on the strings and didn't realize that the cargo area of a plane isn't pressurized, so when he got the guitar, the tension on the strings had actually cracked the face of the guitar by pulling the bridge up about an inch. Fortunately it was just a crack and not a full-on hole, and his guitar tech was able to repair it so it was hardly noticable (!), but still.

Let that be a less... If you check a stringed instrument as baggage on a plane, don't just use a hard case. Loosen the string tension!

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

Quite some time ago a friend of mine checked a very nice 12 string acoustic in a hardshell case... The case protected the guitar just fine, but my friend didn't loosen the tension on the strings and didn't realize that the cargo area of a plane isn't pressurized, so when he got the guitar, the tension on the strings had actually cracked the face of the guitar by pulling the bridge up about an inch. Fortunately it was just a crack and not a full-on hole, and his guitar tech was able to repair it so it was hardly noticable (!), but still.

Let that be a lesson... If you check a stringed instrument as baggage on a plane, don't just use a hard case. Loosen the string tension!

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

Weird... somehow I done posted twice. Once with my spelling correction and once without.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

I quit bringing my guitar with me when travelling to visit my folks in Nashville because I got so fucking tired of people on the plane asking if I were a country musician. It's bad enough that telling someone I'm from Nashville makes them ask if I'm into country music 90% of the time.

Sometimes it'd be so annoying I'd be tempted to say "Yes. I'm a very well-paid and famous studio musician. That's why I'm flying on Southwest with you fucking plebes."

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

I know a guy who had his Pro Tools hardware box (Digi 002 Rack) ripped apart by Customs on his way back to Toronto from the U.S. They snapped off an internal capacitor. Cost him 500 bucks to get the internal circuit board replaced. Fuckers.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

I travel with a cheapo $60 nylon-string acoustic that I would not mind being lost. But it's always survived. It's in a hard case and I always check it, but have never thought to loosen the strings (though I will do so from now on).

A fringe benefit is that my case gets lots of dings and knocks this way, and it thereby gains in character. Nothing is as square as a pristine-looking guitar case, right? You want the lived-in look of someone who has paid their dues in the little honky-tonks and on the back roads of Mississippi.

At Christmas, I narrowly dissuaded myself from bringing my new Les Paul with me to visit my parents. I wanted to show my mother the guitar, and I thought it would be good for me to stay in practice on the electric; I even got a Danelectro Honeytone mini-amp. But at the last minute I wimped out and brought El Cheapo instead.

One hears of people bringing guitars in gig bags while flying, but they recommend checking it at the gate--that is, bring it with you until just before boarding the plane, and they'll treat it more gently than if you had checked it at the counter.

I'm not sure how they get through security, though, given the stringent carry-on size limitations. Maybe you get an exception for delicate items that you intend to check at the jetway.

Bonus factoid: Whenever I've got a suitcase in one hand and a guitar in the other, I feel like Maria von Trapp, and often sing the "I have confidence in sunshine" song.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

I travel with a cheapo $60 nylon-string acoustic that I would not mind being lost. But it's always survived. It's in a hard case and I always check it, but have never thought to loosen the strings (though I will do so from now on).

I wouldn't be surprised if the Nylon strings are able to stretch harder even with the relative PSI of the string tension rises. I've known folks with steel 6 strings to check them and have them come out fine. I'm betting the main reason my friend's cracked is cause 12 strings just have an INSANE amount of tension on the neck and bridge given how tight the smaller drone strings are wound to tune up high. (Actually, I forget the exact figure, but even the average electric 6 string has a pretty large amount of tension on the neck when in standard tuning.)

But yeah, can't hurt to loosen it up before travel...

Danelectro Honeytone is supposed to be very decent-sounding for a total el cheapo miniamp... Is it?

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, 12-string tension is brutal and I've known people to recommend that they never be tuned standard, but always down a step or so, then capoed back up.

I like the tone of the Honeytone but it is not very loud. You can hear yourself, but don't expect to play a living-room concert with it. It has k-tasty vintage distortion and works well as a belt-mounted headphone amp. I haven't done a side-by-side comparison with the Fender and Marshall versions.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

how about the special allowances for "Kumbaya"-singing nuns?

hah. this is the first thing i thought of when i saw the thread title

WOW, can't believe i found a pic of it

http://www.yee.ch/~movies/A/airplane/air_04.jpg

JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

oh man i just laughed out loud

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

There is only one river, there is only one sea / And it flows through you, and it flows through me...

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Br4nd0n was told about the dangers of an unpressurized hold but it wasn't that because the headstock snapped off backwards, not forwards towards the face of the neck. The strings on a banjo would just snap anyway, wouldn't they?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps this issue explains the following thread: Gig Bags

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)


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