Ocean of Sound CD??

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I just got ahold of David Toop's Ocean of Sound book and found out that he made a cd to accompany it (not included in my copy thank you very much!)

Does anyone know where i could pick up a copy?!? Nothing ever comes up on Slsk either. Just think it would be nice to have while going thru this book is all...

Phil Dokes (sunny), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Off the top of my head, I think all of Toop's compilation CDs (barring Haunted Weather) are out of print. I guess check out GEMM & Ebay.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Yikes, found it for 60+ on GEMM... can anyone burn me a copy?

Phil Dokes (sunny), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

email me.I've got all the David Toop comps.I may even have an xtra copy of Oceans of Sound although from the sound of things i should just put it up on ebay if i do.Either way i'm sure we can arrange something on the burning angle.Might take a bit as right now i'm doing a bunch of french sixties comps for a web group but like i said i can help you out..Oh an as far as i know the cd never came with the book.

evan chronister (evan chronister), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

Ocean of Sound is one of the best albums ever made.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

The first CD is by far the best, but I've got Crooners on Venus and it's also well done.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

not as much into Crooners on Venus but love luv LUV Booming on Pluto and Guitars on Mars (and Haunted Weather, natch).

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

i have the ocean of sound comp on slsk (though I think disc 1 is 160 and disc 2 is 192, if that makes a difference). The only problem is that my computer has been out of commission for over a week now and I probably won't get it back until this weekend, so I can't share it at the moment. my slsk name is alngbrt, so if you haven't gotten it by the time my computer is back up, feel free to dl it from me.

Lingbertt, Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

it's really fantastic

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 13 January 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

What's the tracklist? I read the book years ago and dug it but I didn't know there was a comp. Judging by the book I'm guessing Eno, Orb, Kraftwerk, Steve Hillage, Badalamenti, Aphex Twin, etc.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

courtesy of discogs.com:

CD1-01 King Tubby Dub Fi Gwan (3:56)
CD1-02 Herbie Hancock Rain Dance (8:41)
CD1-03 Aphex Twin Analogue Bubblebath I (4:40)
CD1-04 Jon Hassell Empire III (6:58)
CD1-05 Ujang Suryana Sorban Palid (6:16)
CD1-06 Claude Debussy Prélude à l'Aprés-midi d'un Faune (9:37)
CD1-07 Les Baxter Sunken City (2:47)
CD1-08 My Bloody Valentine Loomer (2:36)
CD1-09 Brian Eno Lizard Point (3:59)
CD1-10 Unknown Artist Shunie Omizutori Buddhist Ceremony (6:45)
CD1-11 Vancouver Soundscape, The The Music Of Horns And Whistles (2:08)
CD1-12 Howler Monkeys Untitled (1:26)
CD1-13 Peter Brötzmann Octet Machine Gun (5:58)
CD1-14 Unknown Artist Yanomami Rain Song (3:03)
CD1-15 Harold Budd Bismillahi 'Rrahmani 'Rrahim (4:48)
CD2-01 Miles Davis Black Satin (5:09)
CD2-02 Terry Riley Extract From Poppy Nogood "All Night Flight" (8:09)
CD2-03 Detty Kurnia Coyor Panon (5:36)
CD2-04 Ornette Coleman Virgin Beauty (3:28)
CD2-05 John Zorn & David Toop Chen Pe´ I Pe´ I (2:57)
CD2-06 Paul Schütze Rivers Of Mercury (6:31)
CD2-07 Velvet Underground, The I Heard Her Call My Name (4:32)
CD2-08 Bearded Seals Untitled (2:41)
CD2-09 Holger Czukay & Rolf Dammers Boat - Woman - Song (5:47)
CD2-10 Beach Boys, The Fall Breaks And Back Into Winter (Woody Woodpecker Symphony) (2:02)
CD2-11 African Head Charge African Chant (3:49)
CD2-12 Sun Ra Cosmo Enticement (2:59)
CD2-13 Music Improvisation Company Untitled 3 (6:24)
CD2-14 Deep Listening Band Seven-Up (2:27)
CD2-15 John Cage In A Landscape (6:26)
CD2-16 Erik Satie Vexations (2:57)
CD2-17 Unknown Artist Suikinkutsu Water Chime (2:55)

it's tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

Oooo. . . "Cosmo Enticement" That's an unusual one.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

Maybe it really is good.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

Wait, I could have sworn there was an Arthur Russell track on it. Is there a volume 2?

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

what's this "maybe"?

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

Will be writing you shortly evan (and will check sometime this weekend for you on slsk Lingbertt just in case)

Quite fitting that the place that clued me into the book in the first place will be the one that will hook me up with it in some form or fashion...thanks everybody!

What would i do without ILM??? Perish the thought...

Phil Dokes (sunny), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)

Yes, it's very hard to find. I finally found a copy via GEMM and paid $45 for it.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Thursday, 13 January 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

The Arthur Russell track is on Crooners On Venus, if I remember rightly. I didn't bother with Guitars On Mars but I have got Sugar And Poison as a promo (I can't really tell whether it's part of the same Toop series).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 13 January 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Yes it is. Another one I've been trying to track down for a while.

http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_album.php?id=770

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

OMG Sugar and Poison disc two = ALL TIME slow jam album hands down.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

twenty years pass...

Is there much interest in these compilations these days?

djh, Monday, 21 April 2025 17:41 (eight months ago)

I like to think so but it can be specialized.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 April 2025 17:50 (eight months ago)

A long time since I've played and so part of me is "I hope these are as good as I remember them" and part of me is "I hope they are worth enough that it'd be good to sell them."

djh, Monday, 21 April 2025 18:08 (eight months ago)

By coincidence I was sorting through some stuff earlier today - I went to IKEA, and bought some DRÖNA inserts so I could tidy up - and whilst doing so I found my complete set of Brief History of Ambient CD compilations. Which are tangentially related to Ocean of Sound, or at least they were all part of Virgin's "ambient" series. I need to stack them up next to my Sonic Boom CD-book thing.

Technically they're all obsolete because the music's up on Youtube. Although the compilations were mixed, and the first one cuts out the boring part of "Thru Metamorphic Rock". I remember they were a breath of fresh air at the time - they were pre-Napster etc, so getting hold of a wide range of different music was difficult. It's also nostalgic to think there was a time when ambient compilations were economically viable. Discogs.com is probably the best bet for getting hold of them nowadays. There are tonnes of ambient CD compilations from the 1990s available cheaply.

On a complete tangent I tried to buy Brian Eno's Ambient 4 recently but the only copies on Amazon are (a) £23 (b) used. And yet Airports and Mirrors are still available new, so did On Land go out of print? Was it too popular, or not popular, or what?

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 21 April 2025 20:34 (eight months ago)

CDs aren't reliably in print anymore, even what you'd think were standards like that one! I spent a lot of time in the 90s listening to those 3 Virgin ambient comps (4 if you count Isolationism which I never took to really)

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Monday, 21 April 2025 20:46 (eight months ago)

I listened to the following last month. I don't see how YouTube or Spotify are substitutes for these compilations as the sequencing and liner notes play a big part in their value.

A Brief History Of Ambient Volume 1 - 1994 - the first from Virgin's ambient series and feels oddly sequenced and dated. I'd like to here Isolationism but there is similar type comps on Mille Plateaux I'd put in place of that.
Ocean Of Sound - 1996 - essential to accompany the book in my view but also holds together as sequenced compilation.
Crooning On Venus: Ocean Of Sound 2 - 1996 - great compilation, slightly dated by the inclusion of Earthling and Coldcut is a minor criticism.
Sugar And Poison - 1996 - brilliant compilation which has held up to many plays.
Booming On Pluto: Electro For Droids Ocean Of Sound Volume 3 - 1997 - very good if odd mixing.
Guitars On Mars: Ocean Of Sound Volume 4 - 1997 - probably my second favorite after Sugar and Poison.

and also this; Haunted Weather: Music, Silence And Memory from 2004, which is another accompanying CD comp for the Toop book of the same name. This one isn't on Virgin and make more sense with the book in hand.

mmmm, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 15:58 (eight months ago)

I remember the liner notes for the first Brief History keep going on about Sven Vath. I don't know why. The first three also had guest spots from bands that were briefly popular at that moment in time but not before and after, e.g. The Grid, Bassomatic, solo William Orbit.

Isolationism is less off-putting than I remember. Apart from "Aphex Airlines" it's surprisingly tuneful. The sequencing occasionally does the whole loud-then-quiet thing in a way that's simultaneously funny and annoying.

I may have mentioned it but the other two compilations from around then that really stood out were Ohm: The Early Gurus of Electronic Music, which had a cool case and was very diverse, and A Storm of Drones, or Swarm of Drones - I can't remember the exact name - which drew a lot from tape music and modern classical.

Ashley Pomeroy, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 22:16 (eight months ago)

I got into these 10-15 years after the event thanks to MP3 blogs/soulseek. Can't recall exactly which blogs I might have got them from - maybe Mutant Sounds? - but Simon Reynolds has some good writing on the book and series.

Heard the OOC comp before I read the book, but it had a big influence on me in my 20s, introducing me to various things and helping me join dots (Kevin Martin's Jazz Satellites was another crucial one for me in that regard). It's a much more interesting idea of "ambient" than what we often get, i.e. it's otherworldly, disorienting, full of tension and strangeness.

Read Flutter Echo recently, which really helps put OOC and the Virgin comps into context, i.e. his love of black musics, his interest in ethnographic recordings and environmental sound and so on. He does talk about them a bit,

Composition 40b (Stew), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 13:21 (eight months ago)

On a related note, Toop's Black Minimalism playlist can be seen as an extension of the series. https://www.thewire.co.uk/audio/tracks/wire-playlist-black-minimalism

Composition 40b (Stew), Wednesday, 23 April 2025 13:23 (eight months ago)


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