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And yet I know at least three of us are on the board right now and maybe more, so. Having listened to Beers Steers and Queers last week and currently listening to You Goddamned Son of a Bitch right now makes me think fondly of these goofballs (I mean this positively). Yes, there are the recent reissues, but as this demonstrates:

Let's talk about the limpness of the new Ministry/Revco Ryko reissues

...it leaves something to be desired. So do what I do and stick with the original Wax Trax discs.

Best song: "Get Down" -- all quarter of an hour of it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

Best tip: wait for used copies of the reissues.

Just don't sell back the "Beers Steers And Queers" CD-single on Wax Trax if you have that, because then you'll miss the riffage of "O'er The Hills And Far Away" and shoutings of "UNK-EL BOB!" for 30 seconds before they kick into their live PiL cover. Or you could back that track up, eBay it while mentioning this fact.

Everything else is intact, really.. Pointless in some cases, but at least intact. "Get Down" is not edited, at least. And, behind the Benign version of "You Often Forget" -- a track they STILL have not released on CD for reasons beyond me -- "Get Down" is pure drone rock drum machine brilliance with a mocking Ogre doing an Urkel impression in the chorus before Urkel was invented. Brilliant!

― donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm guessing the band were really into Loop when they did "Get Down".. the similarities are startling, outside the vocals.

― donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Way to make this thread title enlist those who care, Ned. Chirrrrist!

I am too lazy to search, but I would be even more happy to find that there is a thread for Buck Satan and the 666-Shooters. Cause that is pure genius.

― martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

Did they ever actually release anything?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

now i usually don't do this, but i must brag that i was at the recording of "You Goddamned Son of a Bitch". it was, i believe, only the second concert i ever attended. and holy of holies did it blow the shit out of my ass...

― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

Which drunken guy shouting loudly are you? (I say this in terms of gentle envy and not approbation.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

also

did it blow the shit out of my ass...

― donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

ha. i was the 16 year-old cowering in fear by towards the back. 'twas a bit nutty. i remember a lot of things vividly, esp. the dancing girls. fresh from the suburbs, this was too much for my as yet untainted self.

― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

i have some fond stupid teenage memories of these guys.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

wish i did. i loved the album, but not got it on shiny disc due to general apathy, but damn this is making me want some revolting cock - now.
a phrase i never expected to haveto say in a public forum.

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

Did they ever actually release anything?

Not that I know of, although I'm pretty sure "they" was only Mr. J as Buck anyway. I do remember seeing him around Nashville fairly regularly when he was living there, and the rumor was that he was there to make a Buck Satan album.

Who got the love for several thousand homo deejays?

― martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

me me me me - supernaut ..
was it ever pressed onto cd ? i gave up following all the /waxtrax stuff years ago when my hormones calmed down.

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

I am not as familiar with RevCo as I should be because my best friend from high school actually owned all of that stuff and I therefore haven't heard it in approximately 14 years. What I remember, I love.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

'big sexy land' is still a big sexy thing.

...and the official number of the dead......

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

and john 'n' chicago. you are a very lucky man. when they played here, they left the girls behind.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm fairly certain the 1000 homo djs record was available on CD. I never owned it, but I seem to recall at least one friend having it in that format.

― martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

i did! blush!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

I have it.. it has the two singles on it. "Supernaut", "Hey Asshole", "Apathy", and "Better Ways".

The Al version of "Supernaut" (on the 1000 Homo DJs CD-single) is much louder than the Trent version, which is why I'm pissed the reissue chose the latter... it's not as if there's much of a difference in the vocal delivery between the two anyway. So I'm keeping both.

― donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

mp3 of the al version to my gmail account would be very much loved and cared for ? (mark.emsley at gmail.com)
please revive the youthful angst in my acheing bones ..

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

Stainless Steel Providers still gives me a shudder when I hear it. That track led off so many crazy nights. I am lucky I don't have a flashback every time I hear it.

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Someone be sure to notify me if I've gotten distracted before Lard comes up on this thread.

Thanks!

― martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

Stainless Steel Providers still gives me a shudder when I hear it. That track led off so many crazy nights. I am lucky I don't have a flashback every time I hear it.

"GET AROUND, GET AROUND, I GET AROUND!"

Someone be sure to notify me if I've gotten distracted before Lard comes up on this thread.

Martin M., forkboy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

Pure chewing satisfaction, man. Pure chewing satisfaction.

― martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

"Attack Ships On Fire" on the live You Goddamned Son of a Bitch is such a thing of wonder.

Not sure why, but I'm sort've miffed that they compiled all the "side project" stuff (Acid Horse, PTP, Pailhead, 1000 Homo DJs, etc.) onto one disc. Sort've renders all that hunting down of elusive 12"s rather moot now. Bastids.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

Sort've renders all that hunting down of elusive 12"s rather moot now.

I dunno. There's still something to be said for collecting even when the stuff is all available as a lump sum. I guess it depends on why you collect.

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

True. But, for me, it was always about the music rather than the artefact as scarce collectable (tho' I'm not knocking that). With the precious exceptions of Killing Joke and Cop Shoot Cop, I won't seek out singles based on different cover art. If I possess the music in one form or another, I'm usually satisfied with that. But, I liked the idea that, say, Pailhead (Jourgensen's collaboration with Ian MacKaye) WASN'T Ministry, but rather its own project. To lump all of them together sort've ruins that illusion. I guess that's my beef with it.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

I'm still more astounded at the lack of correcting some very basic problems for the reissues, and what was left off that shouldn't have been left off, moreso than the compilation conundrum, although I can see where Alex in NYC is coming from, from a Revco/Ministry fan standpoint.

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

"The Revolting Cocks? I think its some sort of male strip show."

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

The idea of Pailhead was always so much better than the actual record.

I mean where did they meet?

Was Ian secretly sharing a spoon with AL and they thought damn if we make a record together no one will have any idea of what to think.

― hector (hector), Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:19 (twenty years ago)

The idea of Pailhead was always so much better than the actual record.

but 'i will refuse' is a mighty, mighty beast of a record.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:27 (twenty years ago)

Secret great thing nearly nobody knows about -- the Stone Breath folks doing a quiet, moody acid-folk version of "Man Will Surrender." And it's grand.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

Believe it or not, Al Jourgensen has some Chi-hardcore credentials. Nothing near earth shattering, mind you.. and Albini's credentials would belittle Al's by magnitudes of 10, if that matters. In the American Hardcore book, there's mention of a band called Special Effect featuring Al who also featured Frank later of TKK fame. They were referred to as "arty" hardcore, whatever that meant.

But I'm sure Special Effect played with Minor Threat at some point, and Al and Ian became friends and collaborated after so many years and did Pailhead. It actually was the first hard rock outlet for Jourgensen since his early hardcore days (The Land Of Rape And Honey would come out later that year, making it known all around) Word has it Al was battling with himself over whether to sign with Sire or be punk rock and stick with Wax Trax! or do his own thing. Ian suggested the latter, unsurprisingly; Al eventually chose the former, unsurprisingly. (mmmm, smack!)

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:41 (twenty years ago)

I sure wish I could remember the name of the 12" I really liked by them. It had a bass line that really stuck in my brain and I was so happy when I finally figured out who it was so I could go buy it. I think it had purple and orange on the sleeve? Or maybe that was the album? Just eyeballing their discography I'm going to guess it was Stainless Steel Providers but man, this is really going to bug me now.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

It may have been "You Often Forget"... as I keep repeating over and over again, it's completely beyond me why they only chose the noisy Malignant version to put as a bonus on Bigsexyland and not the great Benign version.

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

That American Harcore book is great. It has some kinda of weird moments where the author makes some of his prejudices apparent but overall a great history.

― hector (hector), Thursday, 13 January 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

LARD!!!!!!! Last year I went on a bender where I played "Time To Melt" for a week straight at work. It culminated in me attempting to eat a coworker's skull (which of course is hip programmer slang for "debugging an archaic VB6 application").

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 January 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

But did the skull taste good?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

It's the perfect song to play, as that's about how long the running length of the song is... a week or so.

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 13 January 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)

I need Lard at work. Dammit. There's another reason I simply must get an assembly line vinyl ripping process working in the studio.

Hip programmer slang for what I do most days at work is "I can't believe they're paying me for this."

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

also of note is the ministry back trax and side trax things.
definately the benign mix of you often forget is a hell of a lot better than the malignant one.
I wisely decided to decline the invitation of meeting the cocks when they played glasgow. although i think too scared was the better description. i'm sure stirmonster has better memories of them back then

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Thursday, 13 January 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

I saw the Cocks on the Beers, Steers & Queers tour at the Ritz on 54th St. in NYC. Mentors and Skatenigs opened. It was a fantastic show - somewhere between the Ministry tour of 88-89 (the one with the fence) and the Beastie Boys' Licensed To Ill tour. There seemed to be about 15 people in the band, and only a few of them were in charge of making noise; the others were just wandering the stage in cowboy hats, spraying beer on the crowd (and the singer from the Skatenigs was wandering the stage in a kilt, shooting whipped cream from a giant strap-on dildo). Plus, they had about a dozen girls dancing while they played. Again, only one seemed to really be working for them, as she was wearing a black bikini, matching gloves and thigh-high boots, and was firing two cap pistols at the crowd. This was in 1990, and it's still one of the shows I have the most vivid memories of. A great night, especially when Trent Reznor came out to sing "Supernaut," ended it by stage-diving, and was mauled by the crowd.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 13 January 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Nasty little chickens. These guys were classic in my household when I was little. The Rod Stewart cover killed the original (not hard to do, but talk about utter decimation).

and the singer from the Skatenigs was wandering the stage in a kilt, shooting whipped cream from a giant strap-on dildo
Ah, shite! My father had a tape with "Chemical Imbalance" on it...that song rules, still! Apparently he saw a local band do a cover of it out of nowhere that was just as good, too...

Wow, 1991 Memory Lane.

― Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...

The House of Blues Presents: An evening with Ministry and the Revolting Cocks

By the way, why are tickets already being sold for concerts taking place 6 months from now?

― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Of all the Revco talk, not yet a single mention of probably their most underrated final album, Linger Ficken' Good.

"Crackin' Up" was basically the DFA sound 10 years before their time.. albeit with aggressively delivered vocals.

― do knut (donut), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

some people still care enough :

http://www.bigsexyland.co.uk

― mark e (mark e), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Jourgensen has started his own label, Thirteenth Planet, which will be releasing new RevCo and Ministry albums next year. From ministrymusic.org:

>13th Planet unleases its debut release Revolting Cocks: Cocked and Loaded February 14, 2006. Produced by Al Jourgensen, the CD features the contributions of guest artists Jello Biafra (Dead Kennedys), Gibby Haynes (Butt Hole Surfers), Rick Nielsen (Cheap Trick), Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top), Stevie Banch (Spyder Baby) and Phildo Owen (Skatenigs) and Robin Zander (Cheap Trick). The anticipated new Ministry album, Rio Grande Blood will follow with an April 2006 release. Also produced by Ministry founder Jourgensen, the new album features Tommy Victor (Prong) and Paul Raven (Killing Joke).

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

REVIVING COCKS!

― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 17:35 (seventeen years ago)

Phildo is still alive?

I have WAY too many anecdotes to write now:

Phildo, in torn a RevCo tshirt staggering drunkenly up to a cop car, which he thought was a cab, getting in the back, and being arrested for prostitution.

Look @ the "YGDSOAB" video again. Bill has a copy of Moby Dick on a music stand, he's reading it while he's playing...

The girls have armpit hair wigs...

Al's original idea was that some snotty kid could walk into a record store and say "do you have the new Revolting Cocks album, you goddam son of a bitch."

More later... but only if you ask rudely.

― factcheckr, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

According to Connelly's new book, YGSOAB came from Bill Rieflin screaming it out of his car at a fellow motorist.

― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 22:05 (seventeen years ago)

Could be...

I was drinking in the Smart Bar one night and Al was rambling on about doing a live gig, video, and album about a year before it happened. It went down pretty much how he said.

Does Chris talk about how Bill doesn't sweat?

Otre tidbit: the 3 RevCo "guys" are Danny Flescher's uncles.

Interesting Wax Trax history HERE

― factcheckr, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 22:58 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

STAINLESS

STEEL

PROVIDERS

― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 3 August 2008 10:31 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

http://www.waxtrax-not-subpop.org/images/press/Chris_Connelly_press_photo_1991.jpg

^^badass promo shot

― om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:48 (fourteen years ago)

Yup. Friendly guy too. New album out soon.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:52 (fourteen years ago)

We just wanted to get down.

― Rebekah Brooks Hardsonned My Hamster (Doran), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 23:33 (fourteen years ago)

On one of my occasional forays into DJing, playing "Beers, Steers and Queers" at a yoga teacher's party must count as one of my great mis-steps.

― The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i think they got a band playing down there on friday night

― it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

ten years pass...

A band called The Revolting Corpse is touring with Front 242 later this year, playing NY and LA and maybe a few other places...the lineup is:

Luc van Acker
Richard 23
Paul Barker
Chris Connelly
Jason Novak
Dan Brill

Gonna be a sort of "retirement" of RevCo material onstage. Probably not gonna be nearly as debauched as the 1990 show I saw (and described upthread), but fun will be had, I bet.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 21 July 2022 20:13 (three years ago)

reissues of the bands catalogue via bandcamp needs to happen asap.

― mark e, Thursday, 21 July 2022 20:15 (three years ago)

You can get YGDSOB separately; everything else (including the original version of "Physical" with the Olivia Newton-John lyrics) is in this box, along with Pailhead, 1000 Homo DJs, and a shit-ton of early Ministry stuff. $63 is honestly a very fair price for the amount of music included.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 21 July 2022 20:20 (three years ago)

yeah, but no.
honestly, i just want 'beers, steers .. ' in clean digital form.

― mark e, Thursday, 21 July 2022 20:43 (three years ago)

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