What, if any techno/electronica/electro just plain good music for sitting down or dancing (cont.)

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has blown anyone away recently? Of the interesting kind that might be found in say Germany/Japan/??? and is fresh, melodic, and interesting (but not trying too hard in an IDM way).

Apart from the more mentioned stuff (Kompakt, Bpitch, Shitkatapult, Tresor etc) although under-the-radar stuff on any of those labels is fine, as are past classics like E2-E4 for example.

Damn. I'm feeling a in bit of a musical rut here and just trying to keep this not-too-prescriptive. I'd buy a Brian Eno album right now if it had beats.

Fire away!

itchy crabs, Thursday, 13 January 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Misc.-Cruch Time (Sender)

.adam (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 January 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

that is all.

.adam (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 January 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

he said melodic. youre going to hurt the mans ears. itchy, listen to the hacker: "rêves mécaniques" instead.

:| (....), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

kidding. try lawrence: "spark", that one is very melodic.

:| (....), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

oh I missed the melody part. Still...

.adam (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

TV Victor 2cd on tresor if u like e2e4

Snappy (sexyDancer), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, this isn't too bad so far at all
(going by samples anyway - http://www.juno.co.uk/products/158748-02.htm)

noisy ist gut! !

I maybe shouldn't have added the 'melody' part. I just added that to try and impose some quality control perhaps. It's more techno than 'house' which I do prefer tbh.

Reminds me of Wuzzlebud KK, but more conventionally 'techno' & less thin sounding. What (bits) I've heard of the Hacker solo seems a little too pop/goth styled for my tastes. Alright though.

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

TV Victor?

This I will investigate too (I don't think of Tresor when it comes to Ambient House-like things I must say).

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

hey hey trry farben "starbox", jan jelinek "loop finding jazz records" (o.d. on the man!) or snd "tenderlove"

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

kazumasa hashimoto. yupi on Plop or epitaph on FLYrec. most of the other Plop and FLYrec stuff also fits the bill.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

raiders of the lost arp

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/139381-02.htm

:| (....), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Kelly Polar Quintet on Environ Records.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

er quartet rather...

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I really like that one.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Michaela Melián - Baden-Baden. solo joint from FSK bassist on trustworthy Monika. one of '04's duskiest semi-lost gems.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Ada - Blondie (Areal)
Lucien N Luciano Blind Behaviour (Peacefrog)

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

frivolous album on karloff

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

ah snd, I'd forgetten about them.

seem like a more classic/detroit(ish) take on the oval-glitchy-stop/start sound? would that be far off?

interesting what these searches are turning up. I don't think I own a single record on skam!

(p.s. this thread is turning out great. keep them coming! deep house isn't really doing it for me though, sorry :( )

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

which one of those was deep house?

:| (....), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah Ada definitely (xpost ada isn't deep house obv)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

go back and check out some Terrace/Florence and all of Beaumont Hannant's GPR releases.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I enjoy spazzing out to the newest Mouse on Mars record (and the old ones).

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

ah yes. areal. I'm not sure about that Ada record - Eve sounds like a blinding track but I'm really not sure about the rest, a little pop-ed out. If I saw it in a record store I'd probably take the chance but that SO isn't going to happen where I live. And it seems like an obvious next step right now & I'm wary I haven't been keeping up with possibly more interesting left-field stuff. It's probably great I know....

Monika is a spot on pointer. I adore Barbara Morgenstern. And I've had a bloody awful year of buying duds, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if I've missed a few records on the way through '04 ('03 rocked my world).

(I am on dial-up btw. Apologies if I don't respond to all these suggestions, it's all much appreciated)

go back and check out some Terrace/Florence Don't know this, but will do. and all of Beaumont Hannant's GPR releases. That is a f****** top suggestion!

Deep House was the genre label (I know, I shouldn't trust them. It didn't sound quite Deep-Dish-y so it's probably a little off) for that 'Raiders.. ' suggestion.

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh god, I _hated_ the new MoM! :O

That was the dissapointment of the year for me. But if I had not heard them, again, top suggestion.

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Other 2004 stuff I liked:

Arovane, Lilies
Fennesz, Venice
William Basinksi, Disintegration Loops
Claro Intelecto, Neurofibro
Max Richter, Blue Notebooks

I also recently heard and enjoyed that Yasume record from 2003.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh god, I _hated_ the new MoM! :O

Do you like the old stuff?

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

call me crazy but any space themed shit outta Model 500 is aok for home rug cutting or vacuuming

Snappy (sexyDancer), Friday, 14 January 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I have and like Idiology, Rost Pocks and Instrumentals, yes.

The new one just didn't work for me at all. I found it sonically predictable and pretty boring all told.

xpost. Have come to like the new Arovane very much after some intial uncertainty. Not sure how much it's like his previous stuff though.

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The MoM was initially disappointing to me too, but I've grown to like it a lot.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

ahem xpost self - Deep House was the genre label (I know, I shouldn't trust them. It didn't sound quite Deep-Dish-y so it's probably a little off) for that 'Raiders.. ' suggestion. on juno.co.uk's page

One day I'll actually hear that (rare?) Model 500 album. What i've heard 'deep space' and 'the chase' are so much warmer and enjoyable than I associate with that detroit group usually.

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

space themed shit outta Model 500

ann aimee label absolutely killed it in 2003, but sort of quiet in 2004.

if someone were to ask me who's the new school ferox or clear i would probably say ann aimee, but i'm depressed at how hard i have to struggle to answer that question.

under the radar dance music from japan = chester beatty. good for dancing. he is the new filter king. sort of like surgeon meets daft punk. it will take your head off you play it too loud.

i completely missed this progressive techno/electro mix from australia. anybody know if it's any good?

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

is this a good thread for me to ask what "xpost" means?

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

that australian mix is a bit old, i know, but border community are suddenly the crossover prog label of the moment (thanks blackstrobe!) and that mix looks like it sums up the aesthetic.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Donna Regina...Northern Classic or Late..oh, there's a singles collection out too. Definitely worth searching for.

biznotic, Friday, 14 January 2005 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

2004 was the worst year ever for techno. i'll be surprised if it's still around in 2006.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread is turning out way better than I'd hoped. I haven't heard of a LOT of this stuff.

I fear for my savings.

Chester Beatty (the one meager sample I can find) sounds scarily close to what I think of as being Hard House. But I admit it's not bad, for a minute at least. I fear a whole album of the same/similar thing though (it's Tresor, after all) is there much variation in it?

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost (afaik) just means to indicate you are replying to a post that is not the one directly before. I'm more of a lurker than a regular but I know that much.

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I fear a whole album of the same/similar thing ... is there much variation in it?

well after "LOVEJET" my ears were bleeding and i was anticipating being a bit bored. but i was pleasantly surprised when "superrapin" kicked in and my eyeballs exploded. by the time "ecstasy garage disco on dragon" started my skin had been burnt to a crisp and i was flayed down to a raw nervous system hanging off twitchy bones. my friends were a bit freaked out by my transformation but i was cool with that.

anyway it's only like 41 minutes long or something. there's variation. it's about 1/3rd ambient and spacey like jam&spoon, about 1/3rd minimal jams like surgeon and about 1/3rd hard filter disco like daft punk in the grip of roid rage. i didn't pick up any hard house vibes but that's down to the lack of doubletime 4/4 kick drums.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

seriously though, you have to listen to it at full volume. these guys are absorbing secret knowledge from the finnish crew (pansonic etc), you'll be seeing colored spots in the air and swatting at imaginary bugs on your face.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

nice :)

(Pan Sonic? now I'm worried. Grrrreat on headphones or listened to in the dark uninterrupted though).

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

2004 was the worst year ever for techno. i'll be surprised if it's still around in 2006.

youre not talking about techno = dance music in general here, are you?

:| (....), Friday, 14 January 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"techno" qua "techno" vis a vis "house"

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i blame it on dj hell denying the existence of techno last year to promote his "electronicbodyhousemusic" mixset: "in germany, we have just always called it 'electronic house'". uh-huh sure thing, helmut.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

arent they more like a big happy 4/4 family now? crosspost haha wtf

:| (....), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/331

Michaela Melián - Baden Baden (Monika)

With the passing of John Peel, German artist/musician Michaela Melián may have lost one of her biggest supporters. Her old band, F.S.K. did six sessions for his show through the years, and he no doubt would have loved her solo debut. In a year in which frauleins like Ada and Ellen Alien continued to make noise (and much stronger full-lengths than peers like Superpitcher or Michael Mayer), Baden-Baden might very well be the strongest of the bunch. Melián is assured in her tracks, building them up steadily as she layers violoncello, accordion, Spanish guitar, bass, melodica, and organ while Carl Oesterhelt helps with the programming. She’s steadfast on every song, never rushing things, knowing just when to stir in new textures. Each of the six originals (plus a lovely coda of Roxy Music’s “A Song for Europe,” sung in her finest Nico drip) gathers steam and slowly fills up the space until its at a chug. Think of the pastoral heaven of Popol Vuh, or ambient Eno, with the shimmer of Komapkt’s Pop Ambient series thrown in for aural beatitude.

I might have to try soulseek to get a taste of this.


itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

forgot to check here - http://www.soulseduction.com/common/item_detail.php?ItemID=144703 (sample)

btw. is that new Thomas Fehlmann any good?

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

vahid, that james holden mix is ace - it sits somewhere between prog and deep german house and techno. well worth the dough if you can find it. (2 cds, too) i've recommended it numerous times here on ilm...

it's tricky (disco stu), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

thomas fehlmann's "lowflow" is excellent. i play it all the time. john tejada's "logic memory center" is worth checking too.

it's tricky (disco stu), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

there's maybe one tune you could dance to on the fehlmann release though. the rest of it is all downtempo dubbiness, but before that scares you away, the songwriting is unique and non-boring.

it's tricky (disco stu), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

+ 3 songs with dabrye...

it's tricky (disco stu), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"2004 was the worst year ever for techno. i'll be surprised if it's still around in 2006. "

What's yer definition of techno here Vahid?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I have 'Hana' on mp3 and really like it.

I wasn't expecting much danciness (I still wouldn't mind picking up 'Visions Of Blah' for that).

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Visions of Blah isn't really one for danciness either though.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

(fwiw i mentioned danciness cos of the thread title)

it's tricky (disco stu), Friday, 14 January 2005 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)

well.. shuffling then ;-)

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

why it didn't occur to me to use that site to listen to the fehlmann record I don't know... sounding nice so far.

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Sensurreal - Never to Tell a Soul is one you want to (soul)seek out. mid-'90s, mostly midtempo melt-in-your-mind Belgian beauty. varied and risk-taking techno with a tangy, somewhat trance-y aftertaste. deserves to be canonized with the B12, Black Dog, and Speedy J of A.I.-era Warp. frequently just too fucking luscious for words. comparable to cult faves like Tanzmuzik's Sinsekai or Ismistik's Remain, but better than both. and yet no one ever talks about it.

i think these albums are all gorgeous in unique ways. and, at the risk of overdosing on sheer loveliness, you could also do worse than to investigate their likeminded labelmates...

Digitonal - 23 Things Fall Apart
Kuchen - Kids with Sticks
Tony Drake - Textures
John Beltran's Earth & Nightfall, Ten Days of Blue and Moving Through Here
Tatsuhiko Asano - Genny Haniver
The Detroit Escalator Company - Soundtracks [313], Black Buildings
the aforementioned Kazumasa Hashimoto albums
Fonica - Ripple (look for the longer JP edition)
Aspen - Music from Passing Cars, Are You That Retail Snob?
Christian Høy Knudsen - Hav
Luke Slater's 7th Plane - The 4 Cornered Room
Ambidextrous - Errorism (haven't heard the newer one. as good?)
Pacific 231 - Tropical Songs
The Sushi Club - Sushidelic

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 14 January 2005 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Every year it seems like there is one really good 'straight' techno album for the year. Last year it was one of the 2 killer ones on Kanzleramt (diego or a. kowalski) and this year, for me its' Joris Voorn's full length debut on Sino by a long shot.

http://www.nuloop.com/Details_e.php?arti=30147

The new Diego LP is really good to:

http://www.kanzleramt.com/index.php?s_id=6&action=detail&id=160

screw it...just buy every kanzleramt record you can get your hands on.

tylero (tylero), Friday, 14 January 2005 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Both the Ulrich Schnauss records are great listening music. Deadbeats last album wasn't exactly a stunner but it was nice for drifting to.

If you haven't heard Lawrence I would give The Absence of Blight album a go as well.

hector (hector), Friday, 14 January 2005 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)

One of you guys should throw my Michigan Winter Mix on slsk for this guy, it sounds like that mix completely pwns this thread.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 14 January 2005 06:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Other Peoples Place - Lifestyles of the Laptop Cafe

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 14 January 2005 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)

(returning to thread)

without wishing to be an arse, I'm glad it got this far without mentioning the Schnauss. Most everything I've heard on Morr (but especially Ulrich) I find plain boring.

I'm sure I'm missing out though, because like that Arovane record a lot (and Morr/CCO are pretty similar no?), and Opiate too. Without buying the amount of records a DJ would (and only having dial-up) it's hard to get a feel for everything a label might really have. SO I've tended to dismiss them a little (probably unfairly). What is there on that side of things that I *wouldn't* expect?

(goes to eat something)

itchy crabs, Friday, 14 January 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought the first remote viewer lp on cco (i think they're related to morr??) was excellent. it's kind of stars of the lid meets crackly electronix. haven't heard the new one though. arovane is really great. i still haven't picked up lilies.

it's tricky (disco stu), Friday, 14 January 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

much Morr is on the bland side, but there are exceptions. gotta give it up for my man Wechsel Garland (second time today!), whose Morr album sounds like Takemura's classic Child's View material (read: before everything he touched turned to watery turds). F.S. Blumm is an instrumental wizard whose solo albums are quite varied and almost as good as his work with Harald "Sack" Ziegler. Phonem's productions are grittier and more substantive than Morr's too-benign par (ISAN, Manual, etc). and i really like that Man's Best Friend (Sole) album.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 14 January 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow I liked Morr for quite a while. Melodic IDM that kept my attention. Everyone to his own taste though. I guess I won't mention Christian Kline then.

In case you never heard it Daniel Wang is always worth mentioning.

hector (hector), Saturday, 15 January 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)


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