* You download a generic Direct Connect client, like DC++ (for Windows users) or NeoModus (for OS X or Windows users).* You up that client to share your files. (should be fairly self-explanatory) You need to share at least 500mb of stuff to connect to this Hub.* You connect to the Direct Connect Hub located at 'ilx.p3r.net:6000' (that is, hostname 'ilx.p3r.net' on port 6000).* You can search or browse through other user's shares, and download their stuff.
Yay.
― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:40 (twenty years ago)
thank you sir.
― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)
― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)
is there any reason that this would be blocked by an an academic university firewall? can it be?
i tried setting one up with a friend and the same message happened.
― robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)
― Broken Hipster (Broken Hipster), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)
What are the drawbacks of passive mode?
While in passive mode you won’t be able to download content from, or connect to other users, who are in passive mode. The ping times will be left blank in the search results dialog.
Who needs to use passive mode?
If you’re using an internet connection sharing device such as a broadband router, or a firewall product to protect your computer, you will need to use Direct Connect in passive mode.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)
THEN:enter your WAN IP in the program where it asks for your IP, ANDforward port 1412 to your LAN IP in your router setting.
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)
anyway, i really must get that home connection sorted...
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)
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― cathy berberian (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)
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― David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)
Righto. Can anyone see me?
― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
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― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)
I wish I could browse jody. She is alwaya a goldmine.
Is anyone able to browse me?
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)
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― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)
― JakeWithBrain!, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...) (webmail), January 19th, 2005 2:43 AM. (jaymc) (link)
I'm friends with the dude who runs W1shing Tr33 R3c0rds.
― LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)
― Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)
Re: Australia: For the sake of my fellow music fans, when congress was debating the new trade agreement with Australia, I was extremely worried about the implications towards copyright legislation that may ensue. A big part of recent trade agreements have involved toughening copyright laws. I read a blurb in USA Today a couple weeks ago about Bush himself urging China to crack down on piracy as part of their recent trade agreement. I seriously hope the situation in Australia doesn't get any worse, because so far the Australian government has proven to be one of the most accepting in the world.
Here's a quick explanation of copyright infringement enforcement in the United States. It's sort of like getting a speeding ticket. When a cop drives down the road, every fucking car he sees is going over the speed limit. Does he give them all a ticket? Obviously not. He waits to find some asshole driving way over the limit and then tickets him. Does that mean you can't get a speeding ticket for going 1 MPH over the limit? Of course not! You definitely can.
Copyright infringement is the same. A part of the law reads (paraphrased) "uploading any copyright infringing material on the internet." Hello? DC++ users? MP3 bloggers? People who might email one of their friends a song they really like? You're all comitting criminal copyright infringement, and that's a motherfucking felony. A felony with very harsh reprecussions too.
There's a really slim chance that the Department of Justice is going to go after you for that, though. That's why I acted like everybody else. Unfortunately, some of their actions are very misguided. They don't always get bigtime infringers. When they found me, I wasn't at all what they thought I was. But you know what? They decided to prosecute me anyway. To put it another way, I'm getting a speeding ticket for going 46 MPH in a 45 MPH zone.
All this was done under the guidance of Attorney General Ashcroft. As you all know, he's out the door. There's no telling what Gonzales will do in his place. Considering the torture memos though, I'm not too comforted about his concern for humanity. I really fear that as MP3 blogs grow in popularity, it's only a matter of time before the DOJ steps in. I pray that I am wrong.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)
better os x client
― Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)
Er, they are.
heh. I just assumed it was a random ilm member who set it up... being as this whole thing appears to be so wonderfully decentralized in practice.
I'm really curious to hear a bit more about what happened to Mickey, because as it is generally reported, low-level copyright infringement on p2p has been prosecuted strictly through civil suits. The only criminal charges widely reported have come against operators (not ordinary users) of a directconnect hub. Correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't mean it won't change in the future, but I'd guess the Dept. of Justice is happy to have the RIAA and MPAA doing this work. What do you mean, you weren't who they thought you were? Who did they think you were, and why would they have made such a mistake? To the extent you can discuss it, of course.
― dddddd, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)
warez/software "scene" members (4 such cases); movies; uploading to "warez" site on Fox Cable Network's computer network (!) (2 such cases); unauthorized trafficking in recordings of live musical performances (he was selling them) (3 such cases); reproducing distributing "screeners" (movies)(2 such cases); illegal sales of motion pictures via the Internet
So the patterns and priorities of the doj seem fairly clear: software, movies, and for-profit piracy ventures. I don't know that nobody has been criminally prosecuted for ordinary audio file sharing, but if so it hasn't been publicized widely. I'm guessing Mickey was identified as part of a "scene", and I'm not sure how that happens if one is not.
― dddddd, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)
― Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)
"The American justice department said both men made available millions of dollars worth of movies, music, computer games and software on peer-to-peer sites that they maintained for two years."...
"Trowbridge and Chicoine owned, maintained and operated websites which allowed files to be swapped using file-sharing software called Direct Connect."
1) not just music2) owned, maintained, and operated
The point still being that, judging from the behavior of the doj, people using (not running) file-sharing networks for mp3 transfer, have little to fear in the way of criminal prosecution. Civil suits, yes, though the RIAA appears to want to limit the scope of their lawsuits to a couple networks, probably to simplify their case. And I've got to assume, in the absence of any other information, that your case involved something more than that.
― dddddd, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)
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― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 10 February 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
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― Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)
OTM!!!!!!
― marc h., Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)
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― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 31 March 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)
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― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 26 May 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)
If this helps, I'm linking to my iTunes folder, which is about 27 Gb. I connect to the hub, see the user list, and get no further. Also, should my name show up in the user list, or does it only list other users?
I should probably stick with an abacus...
― John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 27 May 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)
I think this was the motto of my alama mater.
― RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 27 May 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 May 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)
Actually, I wrote someone an email detailing all that I had to change. It's on my work email, but I'm in later and will post it.
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 May 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)
If you have your firewall turned on, you need to open up ports for DC to use.
Don't use ports already allocated to other apps. Choose a new one. The numbers don't matter as long as they match across the various places you have to type them in, and they're over 1024, I think (below will involve some kind of 'root access' badness). However, one thing I read did say to choose numbers over 10000, so I did.
Also, I used a different port number for 'search port and... 'download port' or whatever the other one in Direct Connect's settings is called. In that DC prefs screen you'll also see a box for IP address. You need to type your external IP address here (the one your ISP gives you, which might change every few days, though mine seems to have been the same for the last week at least, maybe because my router's been left on). You can find out your external IP address at http://www.whatismyip.com or wherever.
So, make sure you open those port numbers in OS X's firewall (in System Preferences - Sharing). You can add them under one new entry, just separated by a comma.
if you connect via a router, you also have to do "port forwarding". This is important and you have to make sure the ports are forwarded for TCP and UDP (this option should be evident). When typing the IP address (which will be done in your router config screen somewhere) you must choose your internal IP address this time. The other thing with this is that you'll probably find your internal IP address will vary from day to day, if more than one computer connects to your router. It's better (saves constantly having to change settings) if you change this arrangement to one where you assign yourself a static IP address, outside of the range that the DHCP thing allocates from. I found out how to do this (it involves fiddling with both your router config screen and your System Preferences - Network settings) by googling the brand of router I have (Belkin) and "static IP". But I think you'll find instructions on this, and all the stuff in this somewhat intimidating paragraph I've just written, at http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm
OK, that all makes less sense than I hoped. Still, maybe it will be of some use.
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 May 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)
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― my favorite cover band, crystal shit (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago)
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― viborgu, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago)
can we bring this back
― the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 13:29 (six years ago)
Holy shit, didn't realize there was ever an ILX DC++ hub.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 13:39 (six years ago)