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I've just set up a Direct Connect Hub so that we may share files with one another. For those of you that are unfamiliar with this technology, direct connect is a system similar to Soulseek, except more specialised. Here's how it works:

* You download a generic Direct Connect client, like DC++ (for Windows users) or NeoModus (for OS X or Windows users).
* You up that client to share your files. (should be fairly self-explanatory) You need to share at least 500mb of stuff to connect to this Hub.
* You connect to the Direct Connect Hub located at 'ilx.p3r.net:6000' (that is, hostname 'ilx.p3r.net' on port 6000).
* You can search or browse through other user's shares, and download their stuff.

Yay.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)

i'm there......!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

or I will be there, it's going to take awhile to index my files.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)

With DC++ you can tell it to index your files in the background, and just connect once it's indexed 500mb worth. It only took a couple of minutes to index the paltry 17gb of stuff I have here at work.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:40 (twenty years ago)

this
is
so
great

thank you sir.

m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)

hellooooo nurse...

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

oooh - luverly. I'll set this up when I gets home.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

i'm already logged in. yay!

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

does 0 users mean that nobody's on or is it a problem with my program? i'm not able to see anyone else's files...and i've set it share mine already.

is there any reason that this would be blocked by an an academic university firewall? can it be?

i tried setting one up with a friend and the same message happened.

robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Sounds hinteresting... let's see if it works.

Broken Hipster (Broken Hipster), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

This is great, but bah:

What are the drawbacks of passive mode?

While in passive mode you won’t be able to download content from, or connect to other users, who are in passive mode. The ping times will be left blank in the search results dialog.

Who needs to use passive mode?

If you’re using an internet connection sharing device such as a broadband router, or a firewall product to protect your computer, you will need to use Direct Connect in passive mode.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

Ia anyone able to browse or download things from me? I just started downloading something from Nathalie as a test and it seemed to be working fine, but that was from a search. Haven't got browse working yet. I connect via a wireless router so I have to be on passive mode, I think.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Ah right - I can browse Nathalie, JW and dali but no one else. Guess they're all on passive mode too?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

(the others, I mean - not Nathalie, JW and dali)

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

not getting anything at work. i'll try again when i get home connection. could be fun

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

use ACTIVE MODE.

THEN:
enter your WAN IP in the program where it asks for your IP, AND
forward port 1412 to your LAN IP in your router setting.

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

we're a bit strict about such things at work. no way i could get this done :-(

anyway, i really must get that home connection sorted...

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

I switched to active mode without doing that stuff cutty and it still seems to be working for me (in that I can search and browse certain people, and download from them, ie. no change). Will doing that stuff allow me to do the same withe other people?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

i took jw's advice on the other thread and opened ports 56067 and 56130. works better now.

cathy berberian (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Nothing happens when I click the DirectConnect.dmg file...

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Are you sure there's not a disk image on your desktop now, from which you can drag the program into your applications folder?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Ah, yes. 'scuse me...

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

What are unicode characters and should I worry about them?

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

I will bring the ruckus this evening.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

I'll probably be crucified by work for this but I got to give it a shot.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

When I try to browse anyone, they remain in Waiting...

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

I really wouldn't do it at work. I'm sure it compromises security and an ILXer recently got fired for using p2p at work.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

JoB - I get that with most people, but not dali, ana and a few others. Try it with them all? Think some people are on passive mode or something.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

I need to get a computer.

David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

not dali, ana and a few others. Try it with them all?

Righto. Can anyone see me?

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

How to use dc w/router:
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/6518
Also: windows users should check out BCDC++ and RevConnect. easier to use/more features than regular DC++. StrongDC is another possibility.

dddddd, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

That looks a bit intimidating, esp. as I don't have a static IP assigned by my ISP, so I'd have to either change my settings each time I use DC or do that dynamic name thing too. Also, the method for ascertaining 'internal IP address' seems to be for Windows only. Maybe I'll work it out. Thanks, though.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

unicode characters are non roman characters like ジェロニモ鳥にも.

LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but you can get many non-Roman characters without using Unicode, no?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

A bunch of stuff from me seems to be up there ok. I run Slsk at the same time, if I see anyone downloading from me, I'll limit Slsk bandwidth for you (300k Cable, though thats slower than it sounds I'm finding out...).

MattR (MattR), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

I dunno how to get this to work : /

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I've gone through the faff of port forwarding and making my mode active, but I still seem to only be able to search and browse about a third of the people in the ILX hub. Still - it's great. I just wish I could think of something I wanted right now.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

ok, whoever fezaff is they have some great stuff.

I wish I could browse jody. She is alwaya a goldmine.

Is anyone able to browse me?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

I've worked it all out now. It's brilliant.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

(the mac version of it has a dog of an interface though)

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

alba, it was working btw me and you there for a moment, now that moment's gone- why did we have to break up?
And, why can't i browse you?

mclaugh (mclaugh), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)

Stopped dling from you too, and you disappeared from the userlist. I've quite and am restarting now. Going to bed but will leave it running.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm on. I think. Can anyone get any of my files? Nothing I think I'm sharing comes up when I do a search. Oh well, I have to go to bed.

Hot Bitch with an Elecric Guitarthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

omg this is amazing

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)

wtf, jon williams listens to the aluminum group?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)

Job under which name are you logged in? I'm very original with my name: Nathalie. Sigh, should have picked something Ko0l3r but alas no....

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

Should've been WASTE. DC++ is pretty risky; I don't share anything but comics and stuff when I use it.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

Risky how? I know nothing about this stuff.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

Are there any users on the hub? Won't be able to connect until after work.

JakeWithBrain!, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

wtf, jon williams listens to the aluminum group?

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...) (webmail), January 19th, 2005 2:43 AM. (jaymc) (link)


I'm friends with the dude who runs W1shing Tr33 R3c0rds.

LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

well, i'd be worried if i could get that hub thing to work. but i can't. active or passive, port-forwarded or not, the only person i could connect to was ned. and then even that stopped working. so i've given up in a big huff ;)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

(not, of course, that connecting to ned even for a few brief moments wasn't a joyous and uplifting experience.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

anyone have the link to new valknut/dcgui?

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

Ned Ragget, I don't, but ever since the day it began I've been wanting to start one. After court is over, I probably will detail the entire story.

Re: Australia: For the sake of my fellow music fans, when congress was debating the new trade agreement with Australia, I was extremely worried about the implications towards copyright legislation that may ensue. A big part of recent trade agreements have involved toughening copyright laws. I read a blurb in USA Today a couple weeks ago about Bush himself urging China to crack down on piracy as part of their recent trade agreement. I seriously hope the situation in Australia doesn't get any worse, because so far the Australian government has proven to be one of the most accepting in the world.

Here's a quick explanation of copyright infringement enforcement in the United States. It's sort of like getting a speeding ticket. When a cop drives down the road, every fucking car he sees is going over the speed limit. Does he give them all a ticket? Obviously not. He waits to find some asshole driving way over the limit and then tickets him. Does that mean you can't get a speeding ticket for going 1 MPH over the limit? Of course not! You definitely can.

Copyright infringement is the same. A part of the law reads (paraphrased) "uploading any copyright infringing material on the internet." Hello? DC++ users? MP3 bloggers? People who might email one of their friends a song they really like? You're all comitting criminal copyright infringement, and that's a motherfucking felony. A felony with very harsh reprecussions too.

There's a really slim chance that the Department of Justice is going to go after you for that, though. That's why I acted like everybody else. Unfortunately, some of their actions are very misguided. They don't always get bigtime infringers. When they found me, I wasn't at all what they thought I was. But you know what? They decided to prosecute me anyway. To put it another way, I'm getting a speeding ticket for going 46 MPH in a 45 MPH zone.

All this was done under the guidance of Attorney General Ashcroft. As you all know, he's out the door. There's no telling what Gonzales will do in his place. Considering the torture memos though, I'm not too comforted about his concern for humanity. I really fear that as MP3 blogs grow in popularity, it's only a matter of time before the DOJ steps in. I pray that I am wrong.

Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~chrisj/download/

better os x client

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

Also, you seem to be under the impression that "the guy(s) who run ILM" are running a directconnect hub.

Er, they are.

heh. I just assumed it was a random ilm member who set it up... being as this whole thing appears to be so wonderfully decentralized in practice.

I'm really curious to hear a bit more about what happened to Mickey, because as it is generally reported, low-level copyright infringement on p2p has been prosecuted strictly through civil suits. The only criminal charges widely reported have come against operators (not ordinary users) of a directconnect hub. Correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't mean it won't change in the future, but I'd guess the Dept. of Justice is happy to have the RIAA and MPAA doing this work. What do you mean, you weren't who they thought you were? Who did they think you were, and why would they have made such a mistake? To the extent you can discuss it, of course.

dddddd, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)

You are wrong. I'm not going to outline the history of piracy prosecution for you, however. You'd do good reading the DOJ press releases at cybercrime.gov.

Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

What I found at cybercrime.gov, under cases prosecuted in the "film, music" column, going back to Dec. 2003:

warez/software "scene" members (4 such cases); movies; uploading to "warez" site on Fox Cable Network's computer network (!) (2 such cases); unauthorized trafficking in recordings of live musical performances (he was selling them) (3 such cases); reproducing distributing "screeners" (movies)(2 such cases); illegal sales of motion pictures via the Internet

So the patterns and priorities of the doj seem fairly clear: software, movies, and for-profit piracy ventures. I don't know that nobody has been criminally prosecuted for ordinary audio file sharing, but if so it hasn't been publicized widely. I'm guessing Mickey was identified as part of a "scene", and I'm not sure how that happens if one is not.

dddddd, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

The URL you pasted yourself earlier in this thread was about the DOJ going after people who aren't in the scene. They weren't "software, movies, and for-profit piracy ventures" either.

Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

i have a beefheart documentary narrated by peelie shared

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

excerpts from that url:

"The American justice department said both men made available millions of dollars worth of movies, music, computer games and software on peer-to-peer sites that they maintained for two years."...

"Trowbridge and Chicoine owned, maintained and operated websites which allowed files to be swapped using file-sharing software called Direct Connect."

1) not just music
2) owned, maintained, and operated

The point still being that, judging from the behavior of the doj, people using (not running) file-sharing networks for mp3 transfer, have little to fear in the way of criminal prosecution. Civil suits, yes, though the RIAA appears to want to limit the scope of their lawsuits to a couple networks, probably to simplify their case. And I've got to assume, in the absence of any other information, that your case involved something more than that.

dddddd, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

I hope we are putting in the anti-googling tags on these threads.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
When I loaded this just now, I got a pop up about a new version. Does anyone know anything about a new version--is it legit.?

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 10 February 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

(Meaning, non-harmful, I guess.)

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 10 February 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm there now, trading under the name 'swishcottage' [old habits]. A little disappointed to see there's only about ten people there at any one time, though.

davidsim (davidsim), Saturday, 12 February 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

Hey, how about going into my Arabic music file and copying "Egyptian Journey" the mix I made for you? Not to twist your arm or anything. Yeah, it tends to be a thin crowd, I admit. You may not even be able to access my files too. There's a lot of incompatibility issues I don't quite get.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

I'm downloading as we type.

davidsim (davidsim), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:28 (twenty years ago)

i should be there, indexing files now.

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 13 February 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
revive!!!!!

Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

revive!!!!!

OTM!!!!!!

marc h., Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

i'm there. poorly indexed files ahoy.

- (smile), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)

Hmm. I may have another look at this, I've decided to only share much rarer stuff on Slsk, so I may put my whole collection for sharing on DC...

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 31 March 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)

that's sorta what I did

W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Er... has the hub address changed, or am I really the only person in there? Come on in the water's lovely. (And I need the St Etienne,)

davidsim (davidsim), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

There's four of us in there now. I'm on a bit of downloading hiatus at the moment (catching up with stuff I already have) so haven't been on DC much.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Wot Alba said re hiatus. Great place, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

i'll connect when I get home. I pop in every day or so and rarely are there people there. with slsk being so crap lately, maybe we will all use it a bit more?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 26 May 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

I know I'm a dolt and all, but can anyone direct me to different osx download that might work with dumb people like myself? I'm just not having any luck getting directconnect to function...

If this helps, I'm linking to my iTunes folder, which is about 27 Gb. I connect to the hub, see the user list, and get no further. Also, should my name show up in the user list, or does it only list other users?

I should probably stick with an abacus...

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 27 May 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

Wot Alba said re hiatus

I think this was the motto of my alama mater.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 27 May 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

John - I don't think the problem is with Direct Connect itself. I use it fine, after some fiddling. It's more likely to be with port forwarding or firewalls. All DC software would have these problems to deal with.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 May 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

(see my struggles upthread).

Actually, I wrote someone an email detailing all that I had to change. It's on my work email, but I'm in later and will post it.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 May 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

OK - I had little joy in passive mode. To make active mode work in OS X:

If you have your firewall turned on, you need to open up ports for DC to use.

Don't use ports already allocated to other apps. Choose a new one. The numbers don't matter as long as they match across the various places you have to type them in, and they're over 1024, I think (below will involve some kind of 'root access' badness). However, one thing I read did say to choose numbers over 10000, so I did.

Also, I used a different port number for 'search port and... 'download port' or whatever the other one in Direct Connect's settings is called. In that DC prefs screen you'll also see a box for IP address. You need to type your external IP address here (the one your ISP gives you, which might change every few days, though mine seems to have been the same for the last week at least, maybe because my router's been left on). You can find out your external IP address at http://www.whatismyip.com or wherever.

So, make sure you open those port numbers in OS X's firewall (in System Preferences - Sharing). You can add them under one new entry, just separated by a comma.

if you connect via a router, you also have to do "port forwarding". This is important and you have to make sure the ports are forwarded for TCP and UDP (this option should be evident). When typing the IP address (which will be done in your router config screen somewhere) you must choose your internal IP address this time. The other thing with this is that you'll probably find your internal IP address will vary from day to day, if more than one computer connects to your router. It's better (saves constantly having to change settings) if you change this arrangement to one where you assign yourself a static IP address, outside of the range that the DHCP thing allocates from. I found out how to do this (it involves fiddling with both your router config screen and your System Preferences - Network settings) by googling the brand of router I have (Belkin) and "static IP". But I think you'll find instructions on this, and all the stuff in this somewhat intimidating paragraph I've just written, at http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm

OK, that all makes less sense than I hoped. Still, maybe it will be of some use.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 May 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know for sure that the hub-user grange is an ILX user? Please e-mail me if certain.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 3 June 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)

What would cause a user to appear 3 times with 3 slightly different names, but the same number of GiB?

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 3 June 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

Sorry but I'm a bit paranoid, and not getting a direct response from g.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 3 June 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

Cut down on the acid, then you'll just see one user.

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 3 June 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

Heh, no. There were three granges, but two had numbers after their names.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 3 June 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Come on down.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 23 July 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

I can't connect to anyone at the moment. But someone managed to upload off me. so 1/2 a boo urns to the hub.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Saturday, 23 July 2005 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Is the hub defunct? I haven't been able to get in during the last 24-48 hours.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 7 August 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

are people still using this? i haven't checked in in months.

my favorite cover band, crystal shit (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm the only regular. Others come and go. Usually it's three people who can't read one another's files thanks to firewalls. But yes, I was just using it earlier this week and now I am getting a message something like: Connection refused by target machine.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I can download but not share in one mode, share but not download in the other. Frustrating, gave up on it longtime back.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Some Armenian guy in the Latino hub is being a pain in the ass. Download this, download that. "Armenian music sounds like nothing else," and then I download it and it sounds like techno-influenced Europop with some Armenian instrumental colors thrown in. Wow.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

He wanted me to help him find Latin pop, but I couldn't think of anything except Shakira.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

Now he's doing the same thing to one of the hub-masters or whatever they are called.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

Don't wanna be an Armenian idiot.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
Did this ever work for anybody? Anyone interested in reviving the idea?

viborgu, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

can we bring this back

the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 13:29 (six years ago)

Holy shit, didn't realize there was ever an ILX DC++ hub.

A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 13:39 (six years ago)


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