NEW BEAT! This is the thread where we make a great rolling New Beat dance music compilation!

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I was bitching, in another thread, about how dance music critics don't ever acknowledge New Beat as an influence in modern electronic dance music, without ever realizing that perhaps many people in their teens to early 20s today were too young to remember it the first time around. It was rather underground in the U.S., with a few major label compilations released in 1990 via Polygram/Wing and Nettwerk, but it was more or less attached to the industrial dance music crowd in North America. I think it was a bigger thing in Europe.. specifically Belgium, as the main label, Antler/Subway was based in Brussels. Anyway, just to get things started... fire up yr s1skrz:

1.Lords Of Acid "I Sit On Acid"
2.101 "Rock To The Beat" (cover of the Kevin Saunderson track)
3.Beat Professor "Beat Professor"
4.Miss Nicky Trax "Acid In The House"
...

donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

(mind you, New Beat is the stupidest term for a dance music genre ever, and many of the songs in the genre matched the stupidity of the term. It was hardly a faultless genre. However, it was one of the least serious and certainly least "sophisticated" forms of dance music, though it ironically influenced a lot of "sophisticated" techno/klash of the modern day)

donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(well, if you consider Tiga "sophisticated")

donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's a horrible genre name.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 24 January 2005 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: NuBeat vs NuGroove

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 24 January 2005 09:00 (twenty-one years ago)

er, let's not confuse New Beat with "NuBeat". "Nu" is a new satan of its own. :)

donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 09:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Destroy: confetti's "the Sound of C." :-)

Search Praga Khan

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Monday, 24 January 2005 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

5.Westbam "Monkay Say Monkey Do"

donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

6.Taste Of Sugar (feat. Karen Finley) "Hmm, Hmm"

donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

7.Supernova "Big Car. Little Dick"

donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Erotic Dissidents : Move Your Ass And Feel

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Monday, 24 January 2005 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't this all just Rave music?

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 24 January 2005 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)

You have to kick it off with Space Opera "mandate my ass" because the intro says "welcome... to the empire of New Beat"

I'd also suggest Airplane Crashers - "White Rabbit"

Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 24 January 2005 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't this all just Rave music?

No, because it's significantly slower. The only New Beat track that ever worked on my dancefloors was Erotic Dissidents "Move Your Ass".

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 24 January 2005 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

A Split Second - "Bend My Body Armor"
Poisie Noire - "Adaptation"

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Thread needs some YSI links to help out us amateurs / youngns.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know ANY of this stuff, apart from Praga Khan but yeh i would've just attached that (assuming we're talking about 'Injected With A Poison' tho we may not be) to 'rave'

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know ANY of this stuff

That is why Donut and Dan and Stevie are here to relieve you of your IGNORANCE. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

In Sotto Voce - "In Sotto Voce"
Neon Judgement - "Factory Walk"
Boris Mikulic - "Bitterer Als Der Tod"
Mussolini Headkick - "Empire"

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

(I am conjoining New Beat with EBM)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 January 2005 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

doing the same as Dan although throwing in the occasional appropriate wax trax fodder:

Bigod "Energize" or "Body To Body"
The Weathermen "Bang! Bang! (Rocket Mix)"
MCL (Micro Chip League) "New York"
Zsa Zsa Laboum "Something Scary"
HN03 "Doughnut Dollies"
Cetu Javu "Situations" (more New Beat/Depeche pop clone crossover)

and this was ALWAYS a favorite "God" segue amongst many an industrial/EBM DJ back in the day

Front 242 "Welcome To Paradise v 1.0"
Greater Than One "I Don't Need God"

..and probably the most popular new beat song of them all..

Technotronic "Pump Up The Jam"

donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Acid Horse "No Name No Slogan (the Hypo Luxa/Hermes Pan mix)"

donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

PTP (Programming The Psychodrill) "Rubber Glove Seduction"

Pankow "Girls And Boys" (yes, the Prince cover)

Pig "Never For Fun" (basically a cover of Prince's "If Were Ur Girlfriend" in a Foetus stylee)

donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

..and even it was a Brian Lustmord joke band..

T.G.T. (The Genetic Terrorists) "Revo"

donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

would D-Shake's 'Yaaah' count? such a good bassline

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm trying to decide if the early Fierce Ruling Diva singles would qualify (specifically "Rubbb It In").

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i wouldn't call fierce ruling diva new beat.

a split second - flesh
amnesia - ibiza
2 js - the creation
major problem - acid queen
agaric - i'm gonna beat dis
plb system - just like this
tragic error - tanzen
fatal error - fatal error

stirmonster, Monday, 24 January 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

not new beat but popular in new beat clubs -

crash course in science - flying turns
nitzer ebb - join in the chant
liaisons dangereuses - los ninos del parque
snowy red- euroshima / war dance
front 242 - first in first out

stirmonster, Monday, 24 January 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

some more -


101 - rock to the beat
boytronic - bryllyant
2 bodys - french kiss
2 bodys - sexuality
in-d - beat in-d dream
liaisons d - future fjp
klf - what time is love (pure trance)

stirmonster, Monday, 24 January 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

A Split Second - "Rigor Mortis"

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 January 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

what about something like Codec & Flexor's 'Crazy Girls Make My Heart Go Boom'?

if EBM overlap figures then you have to have Capricorn's 'I Need Love'

Stevem On X (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2005 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

well, I was specifically aiming for the stuff that was released between the late 80s and 1991 or so... but "Crazy Girls" is certainly inspired by New Beat, I'd say. (and, everyone here stretched the term a bit, so never mind me.)

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

But I want to help put together a definitive New Beat compilation to connect the dots to what's popular in dance between today and the last few years... that was my initial goal, at least.

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

hey - i didn't stetch the term. i'm a new beat purist. :-)

stirmonster, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and the track i mention up there should be 2 djs - 'the creation', not 2 js. this was when new beat morphed into hard beat. still totally killer although of course it needs pitched up a tad nowadays.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't Talla2XLC of Bigod 20 (and who knows what else) a big figure in New Beat? Isn't he some big trance guy now?

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

where were you guys when i needed you:

RFI:any easily found comps or box sets of belgian new beat antler/subway beat box international trance trax odd flute/fuck you trance trax type stuff that i used to love so much

odd flute is still my fave track. and at least i got a cool vinyl comp AND a cool cassette from chuck eddy as a result of my thread.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember this compilation called Welcome To The Technodrome which I listened to incessantly... had all the big hits on that label.. Cetu Javu, Bigod 20, Vomito Negro, and others. It was more goth/industrial/EBM than New Beat certainly, but there was a bit of overlap in all of it to some degree.

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and almost every Razormaid remix vinyl set to thread!!!

(I have a couple of those.)

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i sold my trance trax twelve inch with "fuck you" on it. god, i'm so stupid. i loved that thing.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

From the thread I somehow missed that scott mentions:

oops Geir, Technotronic is so far from New Beat, it hurts...

Actually, Geir is correct. Technotronic is very much New Beat. It was produced by the same guys who made a whole bunch of other New Beat singles under a huge slew of aliases. It was just the one commercial venture.. a BRILLIANT move, in any case.

Same deal with Lords Of Acid, although "I Sit On Acid" was never intended to be a charting single (for VERY obvious reasons), its notoriety got them a deal with Def American as the "evil" dance group on that label, and hence Voodoo U.. but the folks behind the Lords Of Acid also released a ton of New Beat stuff under a gazillion aliases as well back in the day. It's just that the Lords Of Acid morphed into its own thing, changing frontwomen, and kept on longer than anyone expected, and never once becoming more serious than its very non serious origins. :)

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

it's gotta be "flesh" and "i sit on acid" played at 33 though!

it's tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

donut, are you more a fan of the techno-ish new beat, as opposed to the more sample-heavy pumpupthevolume-ish new beat?

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

is "houseman" by voyou too italo for this thread?

it's tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the older 80's stuff seems more sample-heavy and then it seems like it got more trancy as time went on. i mean, that trance trax stuff i love doesn't sound anything like all the stuff on the early belgian comps that chuck sent me. and yet, i believe they would all be called new beat.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

what about vicious pink?

it's tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

yup, talla 2xlc is a trance master these days. most of that 'welome to the technodrome' has aged really badly except for that 'acid to body' track by 20 which sounds like current electro house and just got reissued.

x post

stirmonster, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i was just listening to vicious pink yesterday. i wish i could scan the cover of that take me now 12 inch. it never ceases to amaze me.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, taking a look at discogs trance trax would be considered *Hard Beat*. might have to start another thread!

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.optimo.co.uk/vptmn.jpg

stirmonster, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a fan of "both" new beats, although I'm not sure the more "techno-y" new beat is really new beat.. then again, there was a lot of "techno-y" industrial stuff too that was sometimes called techno and sometimes called industrial. It depends on the track, really.

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess i prefer what became known as hard beat as the beats were better but new beat probably had the better synth sounds.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Vicious Pink: wasn't it "8:15 To Nowhere" played at 33?

The original "Pure Trance" mix of "What Time Is Love"... of course...

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, Geir is correct. Technotronic is very much New Beat. It was produced by the same guys who made a whole bunch of other New Beat singles under a huge slew of aliases. It was just the one commercial venture.. a BRILLIANT move, in any case

I can understand the link you make between the two, but I definitely don't see it as New Beat. Ya Kid K lives in NY these days, still receiving money from it.

You should all track down Rocco Granata's "Marina". An oldie which was remade into an obviously crap New Beat-style version.

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I was under the impression that New Beat was the stuff coming out of Belgium mid 80's similar to NDW - bands like Poesie Noire, Arbeid Adelt, Neon Judgement, Snowy Red etc?

I don't think I've heard any of the more dancey stuff if it morphed into that, or if I haven't actually been collecting New Beat the last year...

MattR (MattR), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Arbeid Adelt is New Wave/Punk, consists of Marcel Vanthilt who would later become an MTV VJ. Also contained Luc Vanacker if I remember correctly.

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Poesie Noire, Arbeid Adelt, Neon Judgement, Snowy Red etc. were EBM, new beat came about when a dj called marc grouls played 'flesh' by a split second at the wrong speed and everyone fell in love with the slow grinding sound. after that belgian producers started trying to clone this sound and out popped new beat. anything before that moment is really proto new beat. new beat itself only really lasted a year before becoming hard beat and then belgian rave which was the belgian sound that really did conquer the world.

'pump up the jam' is post new beat.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...
The track has been mentioned, but I don't think too much praise can be showered upon 'somoething scary' by zsa zsa laboum. The synth riff is so present. half 303 and half something else. but not tweaky acid 303. it's overdriven. when the drums come in they compress the rest of the song in a pleasing way that makes it sound very pumped up. basically everything in it is compressed to squash out everything else, and it sounds cool.
it's also got killer bongo hits that pan in stereo and seem to have some kind of gated reverb over them.
it's totally atmospheric and awesome. and totally simple really.
it's also got the breakdowns with the fm-sounding low 'cello' sound and then the loooong drawn out 303 bits... all resonant.

totally good.

(then when more high percussion comes in, it fights with everything else through the same great compression... things cut out... the synth riffs take over again. great reverb on those synth riffs)

just great production, eh?

Brandon Mitchell (A.H.), Sunday, 1 January 2006 10:55 (twenty years ago)

happynewyearbye

Brandon Mitchell (A.H.), Sunday, 1 January 2006 10:56 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
I'll be honest, my favourite New Beat track is--by far--Dirty Harry's "Double B"

:)

Grell (Grell), Sunday, 14 January 2007 07:07 (nineteen years ago)

beats of love with nacht und nebel is one of my favourite tracks, every category. The lyrics just moves me.

jon person (jon person), Sunday, 14 January 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

à;GRUMH... New Fashion, Drama in the Subway, I think the "No Way Out" LP from '86 was OK.

blunt (blunt), Sunday, 14 January 2007 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

The whole genre is embarrassing. I guess Skinny Puppy was also kinda new beat.

blunt (blunt), Sunday, 14 January 2007 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

There's always something reminiscent of a campy fighter's stance when you listen to this stuff.

blunt (blunt), Sunday, 14 January 2007 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

"The whole genre is embarrassing."

if by embarrassing you mean AWESOME.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 January 2007 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Beat Beat Beat - Beat in the Streets
Chinese Ways - Secrets of China
Electric Shock - Don't Talk About Sex
IN-D - Virgins IN-D sky
Jade 4 U - Rainbows
Kings of Agreppo - Agreppo
Shakti - The Awakening
SM - SM
TNT Clan - Blow Up DJ
Cees & Bart - Wake Up, It's Partytime!

PappaWheelie MMCMXL (PappaWheelie 2), Sunday, 14 January 2007 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but I mean Sigue Sigue Sputnik awesome.

blunt (blunt), Sunday, 14 January 2007 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

i was just listening to this the other day:


http://www.exmusic.de/prodpic/smellbuddha.jpg

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 January 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

ten months pass...

awesomes

pc user, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 01:15 (eighteen years ago)

I can't believe no-one has mentioned Plaza - Yo Yo, new beat's biggest hit!

Siegbran, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 07:23 (eighteen years ago)

I have a soft spot for:

Public Relation - Eighty Eight

no-nonsense, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 09:09 (eighteen years ago)

xpost I must have heard it as a 15 yr old dancing in the Boccacio (home of New Beat!) but I can't remember it alas. :-( Shit, this is 2 decades old. I feel an old bitch. :-(

nathalie, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

"Er is een kroeg
hier ver vandaan
mensen komen
en mensen gaan
want het is
er nooit gedaan"

Siegbran, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

there's this, which was included in phonica's new emailer although it looks like it was put out in 06 ...

CLASS X : Dance or Die LP
UNKNOWN
2 x 12" : £13.00 : in stock
25/05/2006

Excellent new double vinyl compilation showcasing the sound of Belgian nu beat, ebm and industrial tracks from the mid to late 80s from Nitzer Ebb's classic "Join in the Chant" (an instrumental version included here) and the much sampled "Los Ninos del parque" from Liasions Dangereuses alongside rarer gems from Snowy Red, Miss Nicky Traxx and Liasions D.

Tracks:
1 Snowy Red - Euroshima (War Dance)
2 Erotic Dissidents - Move Your Ass (Feel The Beat)!
3 Za Za - La Boum - Something Scary (Inst)
4 Miss Nicky Traxx - Acid In The House
5 Liaisons Dangereuses - Los Ninos Del Parque
6 Reject 707 - Brain Killer
7 Liasions D - Beat And More Beat
8 F.O.G Electricity
9 Nitzer Ebb - Join The Chant (Inst)
10 Confetti - Sound Of C

and i grabbed this last year. has some really good moments on it. the sampler also still had its original insert, which featured some rad fashions on it.

jaime, Thursday, 20 December 2007 02:39 (eighteen years ago)

this looks awesome:

http://www.discogs.com/release/310045

scott seward, Thursday, 20 December 2007 02:57 (eighteen years ago)

Electronic Side
A1 Traxx Venecreator
A2 Bambix Painted Noses
A3 White House White The Image Creator
A4 Frontline Assembly* Resuraction
A5 Vomito Negro The Man Factory
A6 Danton's Voice Oriëntal
Experimental Side
B1 Absolute Body Control Slow Action
B2 M.I. 5 Last Moments
B3 Blue Garden Red Jungle
B4 Force Dimension, The Attenzione Prego!
B5 Unknown European Group Fucking Dog Johnny
B6 De Fabriek Corpusnow Callosumball
B7 Suicide Commando Industrial Underground

scott seward, Thursday, 20 December 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

does anyone know anything about the other stuff by my beloved trance trax duo?


Trance Trax
/ artists (T)
Real Name: Ferre Baelen, Rembert De Smet
Aliases: Air Of Gloom, Edwards & Armani, Inocybe, Le Mystere, Little Little, Sleepwalker (2), Zsa Zsa "La Boum"
Members: Bhab, Ferre Baelen, Rembert De Smet

scott seward, Thursday, 20 December 2007 03:00 (eighteen years ago)

i still need to get the trance trax cd that compiles all of the EP/single stuff. i need to hear "fuck you" again. i used to have that single, but it got lost along the way.

scott seward, Thursday, 20 December 2007 03:01 (eighteen years ago)

eighteen years pass...

Urgh - "Rock to the Beat" still sounds MASSIVE, love it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT6aeCfxjf8

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 13 February 2026 13:24 (one month ago)


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