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I'm new hear, as of a month. Never posted, but I finally have to ask, is this site a secret. A friend of mine showed it to me, said it was all critics and bloggers (which seems mostly to be the case) and also told me a friend of his got scolded for linking it on their blog. is everyone here just trying to keep this site to themselves? seems like those that don't post here regularly either are accused of being fake, or are ignored. just curious about everyone's thoughts about this....

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

come on now. answer!

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

***INTRUDER ALERT!!!***

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ACHTUNG!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

lockdown initiated.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

It's to do with David Koresh. And the Pyramids. You know about the Holy Grail, right?

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Shit, I've said too much.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

sarcasm 101

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

please identify this "friend of mine"? we must take him away for interrogation and possibly reprogramming

― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

it's indexed by Google ! what were you expecting direct links from RollingStone, BillBoard and NME.com marked Informed Music Discussion click here !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

breezy - if they let me post here, they'll let anyone.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

At least you didn't mention Qaballah.....er.

― bprofane (AaronHz), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

no just saying. seems VERY insular, and since all of you blog, why aren't you all LINKING this site to your blogs? hmmmm

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, I think most people do ...

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

don't deny it, you don't want any riff raff in here who don't know who M.I.A is!

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i blog therefore i am

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

why aren't you all LINKING this site to your blogs?

I do, but no one reads my blog anyway, so it's not deemed a major security risk.

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never blogged in my life! I don't even have my own computer.

― Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

breezy, have you ahd the dream about the pearl?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

rockists, keep out.

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM started in August 2000, some of us have been here since the start - many others have joined since.

ILM is not password protected, or requiring a login unlike some other music forums.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I only blog about music because of ILM. I just wandered in here two years ago as a lonely hobo myself.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

My blog is about June Sarpong.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm neither critic nor blogger. i wandered in here to take a look a couple years ago -- it was gonna be either ILM or the kabbalah centre -- and now they won't let me out. GET OUT NOW WHILE YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE!!!

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM should be kept a secret from you until you grow old enough to know better

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i am a touch nervous now that I've posted I'll be hooked for life. only time will tell.

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I found ilx a few years from links on blogs I liked to frequent. Oh well.

― mcd (mcd), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i would die for this board.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Guards, take this man to... THE COMFY CHAIR!

― King Kobra (King Kobra), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

How do you know breezy is a man? Informer!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not a blogger or critic, either. And I tell everyone I know about this site (although, I sometimes wish it had a url like ilovemusic.com).

I found it on Google a few years back just by doing a "music blog" search.

― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM should be kept a secret from you until you grow old enough to know better

Yeah, this is true for me in more ways than one (and many other ppl here too I'm sure)

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

DEFCON FOUR

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i am a touch nervous now that I've posted I'll be hooked for life. only time will tell.
-- breezy (breezypoint7...), January 28th, 2005.

ILM is a sinkhole underneath your spare time.

― righteousmaelstrom, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/users/boogles/illuminati.reduced.gif
ILM=EyeLM

!!!!

― Lingbertt, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure what the % re: critics,writers,other commentators vs. normals ;) is, but there's definitely a lot of the former here.

Is it indexed by Google? It never seems to turn up in my searches for music related stuff anything like as often as I'd expect it to, I assumed it had a fairly agressive robot.txt

I dunno, I found it looking for the very few places which had any info about Bpitch Control records/Ellen Allien, I haven't kept a regular login (yet) but I certainly haven't been ignored when replying/starting threads.

I don't think it's a secret to the 'blogosphere'.

Yech. I said blogosphere. Now i need to go outside & get some fresh air to compensate for a while.

p.s. C/D OTM xpost!!!

― lurking but not, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

so 30+ posts in, is no one going to do a Ned and say "Welcome, breezy"?

that scolding-for-linking story sounds like one of those "internet rumour" things people keep telling me about

― gresham street raider (zebedee), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

so 30+ posts in, is no one going to do a Ned and say "Welcome, breezy"?

Apparently not. Say, why didn't you do it? Or hey, why didn't I do it just now? the mysteries of life.

― King Kobra (King Kobra), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Heavens ;)

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear ILM sued the Guardian for even mentioning this board in an article.

― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

so 30+ posts in, is no one going to do a Ned and say "Welcome, breezy"?

Er, I suppose I could. Hi there!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Welcome Breezy! Stick around, you'll find many fine sorts here :-)
(XPOST, damn you!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks ned and jaymc. appreciate it. i may never get any work done now thanks to this. and I haven't even explored the "search" engine...but I know to use it before ever starting a thread on something that may have already been posted about!

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

You are a wise person.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

well i've seen you get tough on those that don't use it. cough cough, interpol posters be warned

― breezy, Friday, 28 January 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Indeed!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It's just cuz Ned hates Interpol, though, right??

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Everybody on the planet reads ILX. Seriously. Even illiterate people; they like the "Album Cover Connections" threads. At least once a month I learn that someone I know in the world-at-large just happens to spend all day browsing threads. Plus every time I look at someone else's computer, I find ILX bookmarked.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

...although, we haven't had a post on rockism in a while...

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

And yeah, one thing you should know if you're going to post here is that Ned is a total dick. Everyone knows it. We all talk about how rude he is to everyone and how unreasonable he can be.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

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So Greenspun's the cutoff, eh?

― J (Jay), Sunday, 30 January 2005 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Lurking at Greenspun is insufficient I guess? LOL

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 30 January 2005 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

greenspan's definitely a prereq, but not IT solely either... i'm of the greenspan era and yet i am probably not a true school old-ILMer. i hadn't the proper papers so i snuck over the border in a thread about [controversial moderator edit].
m.

― msp (msp), Sunday, 30 January 2005 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

what the hell is pre-cum-style??

― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

something ribald, no doubt

― miccio (miccio), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

truth be told, I came onto ILM entirely by accident. One day I was on google, completely bored. And decided to just type in as many words as I can untill I got only one real result. Because a lot of things I typed in were stuff I was listening to I got this. And I found a link to the thread called "your own fucking top 10" and I read it, was quite impressed at peoples lists and added mine. It took me like a month to figure out what the fuck this site was too.

― Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 03:27 (twenty years ago)

We're all still figuring it out. (And I was here from the first day.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 03:34 (twenty years ago)

Come on Ned, just admit our connection to the Trilateral Commission.

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 03:43 (twenty years ago)

It's a secret because the URL is hard to remember when you're drunk enough to be on the internet.

― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 03:45 (twenty years ago)

KORITFW.

(I just learned that after researching it when Geeta used it.)

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 03:56 (twenty years ago)

What we do is...something.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 04:35 (twenty years ago)

I just can't believe that somebody who's been here since the beginning would actually still care enough to continue reading, let alone posting! Truly impressive.

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:13 (twenty years ago)

It's still a charge, I learn something new every day, I've made friendships, gained work...it all continues on. And I hope I've given something back in turn. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:18 (twenty years ago)

KORITFW

i've never seen that before. meme ahoy.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm on ILM because I heard that you become popular if you post on it. So far, I've made one new friend at my high school. She likes Destroyer.

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:43 (twenty years ago)

Your next step is to make a friend who does not like Destroyer, thus achieving cosmic balance.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm graduating college soon. Will ILM give me a job?

― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:52 (twenty years ago)

It's not a secret, though some people here praobaly wish it was a secret, cause of their bad attitude towards new posters.

― xonix, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:52 (twenty years ago)

After I find that friend, does Clipse's "Zen" start blaring from the heavens?

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm graduating college soon. Will ILM give me a job?

yes

― nervous (cochere), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 06:02 (twenty years ago)

since i've started posting here, my boyfriend has started calling me "you dumb woman" and other lovelies b/c he thinks i like the abuse. thk u ilm.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 09:00 (twenty years ago)

does your boyfriend write for stylus

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 09:03 (twenty years ago)

You know the new German nationality test that Chancellor Merkel is inaugurating? We're thinking of doing something along similar lines for ILM, probably based on those questions in the last two rounds of last week's Poptimism Quiz. KNOW YOUR THUNDERBUGS!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 09:47 (twenty years ago)

How long to you have to hang around ILM before you qualify as old-ilm?
-- Disco Nihilist (), January 29th, 2005 9:57 PM.
when you get Daft Punk's "Discovery"??

...

This is classic.

I didn't see this in the past but started on ILM around the time this thread was born. I happened to finally buy Discovery about two months ago because of the love it gets/got from this board. I usually never buy things these days without hearing them first but with this I never bothered to download it. It's amazing like I expected.

Thanks again ILM!

― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 09:51 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

i found this site by chance too. i feel like you have to post at least a 1,000 posts before anyone takes what you say seriously

― boonah (boonah), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh God, there goes boondoc again...

― PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

Simon Reynolds mentions ILM in an article in this month's Frieze (UK art magazine):

"The desire to contemplate such knotty self-reflexive quandries [as taking things so seriously you make a fool of yourself, or a taste for meta] abides at online discussion forums such as I Love Music and Dissensus. But there was a time when it flourished in the mainstream music media..."

So if there are suddenly new people with handles like "artandlanguage" discussing the "elliptical nodes, effulgent yet liminal" of the last two Will Young 45s, you'll know who sent them.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

Does Will Young actually release 45s? (Does anyone?)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

Who knows... but that bit is a quote from Ian Penman's The Pill Box:

"I have to say, I agree with a whole lot of what Marcello has to say here; I've been disappointed, or bored stiff, or impressed-but-untouched by 99% of Stuff I Should Like, lately. On the other hand, I found myself improbably moved by - of all things - the last two Will Young 45s;..."

The fact that Penman, a veteran of exactly the period of mainstream media Reynolds is describing, is talking about an ILM regular rather supports Reynolds' thesis.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

And the fact that I reviewed the current Will Young album in Time Out completes the circle with some nifty deftness.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

Although he is strictly referring to CoM me rather than ILM me.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 06:12 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of the search function ... does it hate anyone else's computer? because mine seems to take like five minutes to query the database. odd. i always try to check for previous threads, but half of the time it just shows me error messages.

― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

i feel like you have to post at least a 1,000 posts before anyone takes what you say seriously

But those 1,000 posts can consist of marginally relevant one-liners, or even simply the phrase "OTM" (or more ILX-specific expressions like "HI DERE").

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 15 June 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

teh LOL

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Thursday, 15 June 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

i feel like you have to post at least a 1,000 posts before anyone takes what you say seriously

its actually the other way around: the more you post, the less we believe you.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

I don't believe that, Nathalie. Not coming from you, anyway.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

the will young album is really good!

what is a 45?

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

What exactly do you mean by that, Momus?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

what is a 45?

... Seriously? GOOD GOD I AM OLD

― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

It's a 40 with 5 bonus ounces.

― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

If you are waiting until your umpteenth post to be taken seriously, think on this, the Avogadro's law of ILM: the length of your posts, the amount of enthusiasm with which you invest them and their correlation with your actual beliefs is inversely proportional to the time spent here. Except if you are nabisco, of course.

― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

ability to speak English goes down too

― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

fda erqg frizzle

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

nabisco or Ned, I meant to say.

― Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Use the Google search option, it's much faster and more reliable.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

what is a 45?

-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), June 15th, 2006 2:29 PM. (The Lex) (later)

Sometimes, when the Lex asks stuff like this, I'm never sure if he's parodying himself or whether he genuinely does live the life of a High Court judge.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

Lex is only twelve, Ailsa, you have to allow for youth.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

the length of your posts, the amount of enthusiasm with which you invest them and their correlation with your actual beliefs is inversely proportional to the time spent here.

so, so otm

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yay! Oh wait.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Does Will Young actually release 45s? (Does anyone?)

Sloan made one a few years back. I'll have to go peek into my singles collection to check for other though.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

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