So, I went to an Arcade Fire show earlier this month. My roommate came with me. He is a stupid person who says stupid things about music. Now, we're both students at UNCC, which is offering a class on American Idol. Yes, the TV show. My roommate is enrolled in this class. Now, ever since this class started, he's gotten the impression that he is incredibly knowledgable on music. He thinks he knows everything there is to know about music, and any piece of information that may be in the realm of opinion is actually a fact if he says it is. The ironic thing about this is, he doesn't listen to a single band that doesn't get play on MTV. Call me a rockist if you will, but can you actually be knowledgable about music if you have such a limited scope?
Anyways, we're in the car driving back from the show. I thought it was amazing. The Arcade Fire really live up to their reputation as a great live show. My roommate is going on about how much he enjoys his newfound music knowledge from his American Idol class and how he knows so much now, as he often does. He has a tendency to repeat himself. So, he tells me, as he was watching the show, he was critiquing it in his mind, tapping the vast expanses of his music expertise.
I know I shouldn't have asked it, but I did. "Okay, so how were they? Are they the next American Idol?" I sarcastically inquire. "Oh, they have a very good stage presence! They're really good with that." I can tell there's something else coming... "Okay, and what about the music I ask?" He smirks. "With the music they have a lot to work on! For example, his singing is really bad. The lead singer has a lot to work on as far as his singing goes." I try to get him to explain what exactly is wrong with either his singing or the music, but he refuses to tell me anything other than "they have a lot to work on." He absolutely rejects my idea that their music, as well as the vocals, are a particular style, and they are just fine. He is sure that there is some goal of an "ultimate sound" that all bands are trying to reach, and the Arcade Fire has a distance to go.
Later he told me that he things the band might have a chance to "make it." By that he means make it onto MTV, play auditoriums, etc. If they keep working on it, they might "be good enough" to make it! This is coming from a guy whose favorite band is 3 Doors Down.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)
And I thought I'd bitch about it and hope someone else tells a funny story.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)
― arjun (arjun), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)
― Site Admistrator (deangulberry), Monday, 31 January 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)
― pat, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)
does this make me one of the "stupid" people?
― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)
there's nothing inherently stupid about finding the Arcade Fire guy's voice horrible. He sounds like a turkey doing an Isaac Brock impersonation.
Yeah, but the perspective from which you condemn him is an informed one. If you're just some jerk with some preconceived notion of one thing being good, and all the rest bad, then you can go fuck yourself in a ham sandwich.
― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:28 (twenty years ago)
the nerve...
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)
While watching American Idol after a Hispanic guy sings really poorly. My roommate: "See, people with accents shouldn't try to sing songs that were originally wrote by someone without their accent! It just doesn't work! You can't do that! He should have sung Ricky Martin." (The guy didn't have a Hispanic accent at all. This comment was based completely on his appearance.)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)
x-post
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)
While watching Lost in Translation and repeatedly claiming that it is "like watching grass grow," "has no plot," and "is terrible," despite continuing to watch it: "You see, this is a really new genre -- the type of film that follows someone's regular life, like, a normal person. They only started making movies like this a couple years ago."
By the way, his "passion" is movies. He is an expert on them. Really, ask him. He is.
Me: "Uh, I think you're wrong. They've been making independent movies that are more like real life than fantastic Hollywood movies for a while."
Him: "No they haven't."
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)
Him: "He [Chirac] is such an asshole."
See, it's times like this that I know he either has absolutely no reason to hold his said opinion, or it is completely factually incorrect. Although he is terrible to argue with, I often can't help but ask anyway.
Me: "Why?"
Him: "See, he said going into the Iraq war they had no WMD's --"
Me: "Yeah, he was right."
Him: "--but, but... all along, France was giving Iraq the instructions and capabilities to make WMD's! That's why France was opposed to the war all along, because the whole time they were helping them make nuclear weapons."
Me: "I am absolutely sure that you are wrong. I dare you to find me one credible source that says that."
Him: "No, seriously! I mean, it happened about a year ago..."
Me: "Then it should be easy for you to find a credible source backing that up. Seriously, show me one and then I'll believe you."
Him: "..."
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)
― gem (trisk), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)
Him: "No, no! That page is lying! It is physically impossible to be a marathon runner and be a vegetarian!"
Me: "So, all these pages are lying?"
Him: "I know what I'm talking about! I'm a runner! It is physically impossible. You can physically not do it!"
Later we found a page that cited some scientific research whose results said something along the line of "not eating meat does not hinder athletic ability."
Him: "No, he's wrong! Who is he? What are his credentials?"
Me: "You're grasping really hard here to defend yourself when you're obviously wrong."
Him: "No I'm not! I'm just asking, what are his credentials? Huh? What are they? And why is he doing this experiment?"
Ex-girlfriend reading the webpage: "He's a licensed M.D."
Him: "Then who gave him his degree? Where did he get his degree?"
Ex-girlfriend reading the webpage: "Ugh, forget this."
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)
xpost
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)
Him: "So, the girl was turned down and didn't get to go on to the next round. So when she was talking to the camera, she said, 'They made a mistake! I'm the next damn American Idol'. What a stupid bitch. She just cussed on national television. America doesn't want that! She is not an American Idol with an attitude like that."
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)
You can use the paper bag between posts.
― PiersT, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)
I grew up in Chapel Hill, NC. Here is my roommates thought on the area:
Him: "Most the people who go to UNC are fucking assholes. They think, 'Oh, I'm so educated and I'm so smart, so I'm going to listen to this really obscure underground music that nobody else has heard of, because I'm smarter than everybody else.'"
Me: "Well, Chapel Hill does have a big independent music community. That's where Merge Records is, the label that the Arcade Fire is signed to. I don't think people there consciously choose to listen to obscure music because they think they're smarter than anybody else. They're just music enthusiasts and like a wide variety of music."
Him: "No, they all think they're so smart, so they're going to listen to all this unknown music because they're so educated going to UNC, and better than everybody else. Everybody I know there is like that."
Me: "Well, I can't argue with you about the personalities of the maybe twenty people you know in Chapel Hill since I've never met them, but you know it's unfair and plain wrong to say the whole city is the same."
Him: "The majority of them are."
Me: "You do realize that majority means over fifty percent. You can't say fifty-one percent of UNC students think they're educated and smarter than everybody else, and that is why they want to listen to underground music and everything else isn't good enough for them."
Him: "Also, I'm not counting all the people listening to Nelly, being brainwashed into thinking they're black."
The weirdest thing about the above quote is that he likes Nelly.
I'm not even making this shit up.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)
http://www.lasvegas-nv.com/showpics/don-rickles.jpg
― Site Admistrator (deangulberry), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)
― cdwill, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)
xpost, no this thread rules.
― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)
― Bruce S. Urquhart (BanjoMania), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)
I just walked in the livingroom, and his ex-girlfriend was starting to tell this story. He interrupted and told it for her.
A couple years ago, one of his other ex-girlfriends broke up with him. He got drunk and tried to commit suicide by jumping off the balcony. He ended up in the psych ward that night.
By the way, the apartment was on the second floor. He was about fifteen feet off the ground.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)
― gem (trisk), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)
― Hey, Dick, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:00 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 February 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)
I had another roomate that sat on her neatly made bed and watched boy meets world reruns all day. She was black and when one of Ian's friends came to visit he was in the middle of telling a story about how messy black people are when he finally noticed her ethnicity. He then tried to back it up by proclaiming "but I love black people! I'm half black!" He then offered to go out and buy her some chicken to make up for it. I wanted to seriously slaughter him but hey, he was a marine so maybe that explains it.
― KatieC (lilcatwngs), Friday, 4 February 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)
― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)
"Oh, I didn't mean to offend you! Have some watermelon."
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Friday, 4 February 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 4 February 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, we filled out roommate matching cards at our dorm. I'm convinced they didn't read them. I'd try to figure out what kind of music my roommate hated by leaving a cd of it running and then leave to go to the bathroom to masturbate. By the time I got back, if he had turned it off that meant he hated it. Then I'd make a playlist of the music he hated (things like Boyd Rice, Ravi Shankar:Chants, and Aphex Twin:SAWII) and leave it on repeat at a very polite volume whenever he tried to study.
― Ignorant Racist, Saturday, 5 February 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)
Ian came in and sat down and said, "You do know that Bill O'Reilly is a communist, right?" Some day I'm going to ask him what he thinks communism is. He must feel pretty strongly about this since it's the second time he's told me.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 5 February 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. Z Indahouse (AaronHz), Saturday, 5 February 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 5 February 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)
― Orange (Orange), Saturday, 5 February 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)
FEED ME
― David Allen (David Allen), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)
"It really bothers me how other people in the class aren't accepting of music they don't normally listen to. Especially... not to be stereotypical, but especially the black population of the class! Today he was playing Bohemian Rhapsody, and this black girl behind me was trying to sing it. She didn't know the song, so of course she got lots of the words wrong. I just wanted to turn around and tell her, 'Do you realize that you are mocking the best vocal singer ever?' It really bothers me how unaccepting the black people are."
Also, here's some of his political musings I've heard in the past few days:
- Bush saved the economy with the tax cuts. Otherwise, everything would be a lot worse right now.
- It's a good thing we invaded Iraq when we did, because maybe they didn't actually have WMD's, but they were about to get them! So close!
- Okay, so maybe Bush did mess up and Iraq didn't have WMD's, but at least he did the right thing by sticking to the course and not admitting he made a mistake.
I'm not sure how "sticking to the course and not admitting a mistake" is the right thing to do, but my roommate assures me that it is.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
-- Mickey (modestmicke...), February 5th, 2005.
hahahahaha omg my former boss to thread
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)
Okay, you are making this up. Please tell me you are making this up.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
LOL
― Ignorant Racist, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)
Actually, the majority of Americans have this attitude (but I know no one on this list would be that stupid ;))... If politicians get information that is useful or become more educated on a subject and act on it, that's called "Waffling." If you close your eyes and drive the steamroller straight ahead, that's called "Courage."
― Ignorant Racist, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)
― Ignorant Racist, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)
― Ignorant Racist, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)
― Un investigador del siglo XXI (AaronHz), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)
― Ignorant Racist, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)
Me: "Is he new?"
Him: "No, he just sucks at his job. He's black. And, he plays the race card on everything too!"
Oh, the irony.
― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)
― Øystein (Øystein), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
― Ignorant Racist, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)
― ian the stud, Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)
― ian the stud, Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)
― Matt Chesnut (Matt Chesnut), Thursday, 7 April 2005 03:21 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)
any more roommate stories?
Im living alone now and miss the hell of other people.
sorry, I was just feeling nostalgic for old ILM threads.
― Hamildan, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)
imagine living with mickey & having him constantly run to wikipedia after everything you say - i feel like i need estela to sum up how i feel about that
― and what, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)
wow banned mickey wasn't lying about the american idol class at his school: http://media.www.browndailyherald.com/media/storage/paper472/news/2004/11/08/CampusWatch/UncCharlotte.Takes.idol.Worship.To.New.Level-796570-page3.shtml
― Wrinklepaws, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)
Mickey finally got banned?
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)
Good find, Chad.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)
Good findill selection
― and what, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)
i heard a live recording of the arcade fire once. i agree with the roommate.
― omar little, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)