Cher--C/D?

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The real example of rockist prejudice for the artificially real.

The woman had entire RIBS taken out to look cool—how punk is that?

She looked goth when Andrew Eldritch was dissatisfied about his mother’s teat.

She’s been on the road longer than the Dead and isn’t dead.

Her new electronica (whatever) is way more fun than Madonna, and you know she’d never fuck something as skanky as Guy Ritchie.

"Believe" is both the catchiest and most annoying song of an entire decade—how punk is that?

She did that inspirational power chord metal ballad on a Navy carrier with about 100 queer dancing seamen—and America swallowed it.

"Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves"—how punk is that?

Classic.

― iang, Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:28 (twenty years ago)

― Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

classic indeed. even if she had only ever recorded "Ringo, I Love You".

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

How punk is that?

I don't know. Cher sucks.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 3 February 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

Her new electronica (whatever) is way more fun than Madonna, and you know she’d never fuck something as skanky as Guy Ritchie.

she did fuck gregg allman though...

― Nimrod Kovacs (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 3 February 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

Dud to the duddiest power. Dud in new and spectacular ways. Like, the WORST. The very sight of her makes me wanna wretch. That VOICE...ugh...what a phony. The most offensive and insufferable celebrity this side of Streisand.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Thursday, 3 February 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

"Believe" was classic and revolutionary.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 February 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)

i think it's pretty punk that her daughter is a lesbian activist.

― Nimrod Kovacs (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 3 February 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

100 queer dancing seamen—and America swallowed it

― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 3 February 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

CLASSIC

― adam (adam), Thursday, 3 February 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

I suppose it's also unbearably punk that another of her children gave us Deadsy.

Still (or perhaps, consequently), classic.

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 3 February 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, upon reflection... "Believe" is amazing in that you can't help loving and hating it simultaneously. Therefore, Classic.

― David A. (Davant), Thursday, 3 February 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

Big fat DUD DUD DUD. Cannot stand the sound of that woman's voice. And Believe was not revolutionary, it was just annoying studio trickery.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Thursday, 3 February 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

Cher w/Sonny = soooo classic.

Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down), I Got You Babe, The Beat Goes On

― El Janko (JasonD), Thursday, 3 February 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

"the beat goes on" is dreadful, but that's not her fault.

― Nimrod Kovacs (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 3 February 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

She has the best goth LP title by a non-goth: "I Paralyze"--and a cover of "Sisters of Mercy" (!)

Without her, could there even be a Bronski Beat?

"Song for the Lonely" easily kicks "The Rising" as the only 9/11 lament that transcends treacle by embracing the mechanics of kitsch to get across a real sense of sadness-hope (there's probably a German word for this.)

― iang, Thursday, 3 February 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Classic, especially for the Sonny & Cher stuff (like Janko said), but not exclusively. Also, for some reason I like "Strong Enough." I understand the love-hate thing regarding "Believe." (I'm surprised I don't simply hate it.) I do think she has a good voice, in a not-at-all ironic way.

― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 3 February 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

And Believe was not revolutionary, it was just annoying studio trickery.

Annoying studio trickery can be revolutionary. (And catchy.) And revolution can be classic. "Gypsies Tramps And Thieves" certainly is.

(And FWIW, she can sure as hell out-act Madonna. Or Whitney Houston or J.Lo or whoever.)

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

she's a great actor. and her voice is really cool. and certainly unique.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Both. I quite like "Dark Lady."

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

classic!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 3 February 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

The annoying studio trickery of "Believe" completely changed listeners' expectations for the human voice on a global level. It was utterly completely revolutionary. (and most assuredly annoying to many people).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 February 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Disco Cher is best, esp Take Me Home.

― Robin Goad (rgoad), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Disco Cher is like an entire universe.

― iang, Thursday, 3 February 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Classic. I always wanted to do a cover of "Just Like Jesse James" - dictionary definition of the word Epic - but could never persuade my bandmates.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 3 February 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

seven years pass...

There's a good comp of her late 60s Imperial recordings on spotify. Listening to it right now and she or her handlers one picked some great songs to cover.

There's also a Casablanca comp on there which I'll cue up next.

― Bout to go Jethro TULL on that ass (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 20 October 2012 07:32 (thirteen years ago)

six years pass...

Man, Dark Lady is marvelous, innit?

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 02:02 (six years ago)

Oh you tease

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 03:16 (six years ago)

three months pass...

I randomly saw Cher's farewell tour last night. It was surprisingly good!

― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2019 15:52 (six years ago)

Did she do her song about how she can't believe she's queen?

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 December 2019 18:00 (six years ago)

No, mostly because after that show, I can't believe she can't believe she's queen.

― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2019 18:04 (six years ago)

were you comped?

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 December 2019 18:05 (six years ago)

Of course I was! (A friend from college plays keyboards for Chic, who were opening)

― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2019 18:06 (six years ago)

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