50. Paddy McAloon - I Trawl the Megahertz49. Basil Kirchin - Quantum48. Ollie Patterson - Spring Song47. Bongwater - Double Bummer46. Ennio Morricone - Escalation45. John Zorn - Naked City44. AR & Machines - Echo43. Wiliam S Fischer - Circles42. Wild Man Fischer - An Evening with Wild Man Fischer41. Throbbing Gristle - Second Annual Report40. Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn39. Mercury Rev - Boces38. Tim Buckley - Starsailor37. Dreamies - Auralgraphic Entertainment36. Cybotron - Cyber Ghetto35. Ca Quintet - Trip Thru Hell34. Barbara Streisand - ...And Other Musical Moments33. The Stark Reality - ...Discover's Hoagy Carmichael's Music Shop32. Steven Jesse Bernstein - Prison31. Scott Walker - Tilt30. Esquivel! - Four Corners of the World29. Alexander 'Skip' Spence - Oar28. Joe Meek and the Blue Men - I Hear A New World (An Outer Space Musical Fantasy)27. Comets on Fire - Field Recordings from the Sun26. Diamanda Galas - Plague Mass25. The Monks - Black Monk Time24. Gordon Jenkins - Seven Dreams23. Frank Zappa - Lumpy Gravy22. Perrey & Kingsley - Kaleidoscopic Vibratons: Spotlight on the Moog21. Patty Waters - College Tour20. Boredoms - Super AE19. Hawkwind - Space Ritual Alive18. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless17. Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow16. The Residents - Ralph Records 10th Anniversary Special15. The Holy Modal Rounders - The Moral Eeels Eat...14. The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band13. The Velvet Underground - White Light/White Heat12. Os Mutantes - Os Mutantes11. The Flaming Lips - Zaireeka10. White Noise - Electric Storm9. The United States of America - The United States of America 8. John Coltrane - Ascension7. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Axis:Bold as Love6. Faust - The Faust Tapes5. Butthole Surfers - Locust Abotion Technician4. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain3. Miles Davis - Agharta 2. Sun Ra - Space is the Place1. Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
― Brian Ottlestone, Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― stephen morris (stephen morris), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― stephen morris (stephen morris), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)
The Babs inclusion is funny tho. They should've added "Elvis: Live from Hawaii" too.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)
47. Bongwater - Double Bummer29. Alexander 'Skip' Spence - Oar25. The Monks - Black Monk Time14. The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band13. The Velvet Underground - White Light/White Heat12. Os Mutantes - Os Mutantes7. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Axis:Bold as Love5. Butthole Surfers - Locust Abotion Technician4. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
And I'd like to buy these when I have the cash:
28. Joe Meek and the Blue Men - I Hear A New World (An Outer Space Musical Fantasy)15. The Holy Modal Rounders - The Moral Eeels Eat...8. John Coltrane - Ascension2. Sun Ra - Space is the Place1. Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)
Disco Inferno - D.I Go Pop
i really can't think.
― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Snappy (sexyDancer), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Snappy (sexyDancer), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Snappy (sexyDancer), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― billstevejim, Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Snappy (sexyDancer), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)
The Pop Group's Y is pretty wild, and even more so Mark Stewart and the Maffia's As the Veneer of Democracy Starts to Fade...which was inspired heavily by The Missing Brazilians' Warzone. Warzone is probably one of the most out-there records I have...blending depressive dancehall with dub and glitchiness and built-in hyperdistortion...and that was recorded in 1983!
― Ian Riese-Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)
er . . . the first time I heard it, I did sort of have this response, except in a "this is the record I've always dreamed of hearing but never actually thought I would" kind of way. (and minus the Isn't Anything comparison, because I didn't know that record at the time)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)
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― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 4 February 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― ed charles of the kansas city a's, Friday, 4 February 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― ed charles of the kansas city a's, Friday, 4 February 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― ed charles of the kansas city a's, Friday, 4 February 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost: I think Loveless is waaaay more fun than any JAMC I've heard, just cause it's so much more luscious sounding instead of the B&W tinniness I've always gotten off JAMC. (I like JAMC, btw, just admire them far more than adore them)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 4 February 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 4 February 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masked Gazza, Friday, 4 February 2005 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― ppp, Friday, 4 February 2005 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 4 February 2005 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 4 February 2005 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― ed charles of the kansas city a's, Friday, 4 February 2005 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)
So, where was Magma's Kohntarkosz and Tim Hardin's Suite for Susan Moore? If you think Mojo got it wrong now's your chance to rectify the situation. Choose the one album that you think should have been in our 50 Out There Albums list, write a short 50 word explanation of its genius in the Mojo style and send it to the usual Mappin House address or mojo@emap.com, headed 'Get Out Of Here'.Then we'll compile a readers' list of the Top 50 Out There albums. Let the madness commence.
― Brian Ottlestone, Friday, 4 February 2005 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Brian Ottlestone, Friday, 4 February 2005 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)
this is one of the weirder things to include. it's not THAT well known, but it is becoming MORE well known as the price for the original vinyl goes up. Which is cool. I can dig it. It's a good record. It's just a weird record to single out, because it's not all that different than a zillion other krautrock albums that came out at the time. And it's not really representative of any one sound/vision in particular. Reichel made more like it. It's not all that singular in any way.
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 4 February 2005 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Friday, 4 February 2005 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 4 February 2005 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Friday, 4 February 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Friday, 4 February 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 4 February 2005 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 4 February 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)
Bob Marley's on the cover
― Brian Ottlestone, Friday, 4 February 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)
my opinion: depends on the album.
I thought the first album was almost tinny had it not been for the big ass floor tom. And Reverence is pretty damn tinny compared to the previous albums like Automatic and Barbed Wire Kisses and April Skies, etc. (haven't heard anything after Reverence)
― donut christ (donut), Friday, 4 February 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)
anyway -- So you always skip "Soon" then? -- see, my relationship to this record is such that I had to pull the thing out to even know what song you're talking about -- and I do own it. I get it -- the drum machine thing? Well, see, I guess I like my four-piece guitar-rock bands to have a little meat to their motion. Yeah, I "get" that it's all about the guitar textures, but really... I just put this thing on and I got to, what's this song? "When You Sleep"? Buncha eighth-note downstroke plodding behind with some kind of wordless wispiness on top of it? Eh, sorry I reached my limit. I just put on Monk's Dream.
but hey, we all have our own listening histories. Daydream Nation had already blown my mind the year before, so this cute little record didn't really stand a chance at that point in my life. I think when this thing came out I was trying to wrap my head around Hanatrash's 3 and Art Ensemble records and Sonny Sharrock on Tauhid and Super Nova. But I'm glad a lot of people got stuff out of the MBV thing. Good for them. I'm just sick of hearing about it. Especially on a board like this where we have to suffer through banalities like "the Beatles suck" or whatever on daily basis.
oh and yeah, Skot prolly had to put Rufus to bed but I bet dollars to donuts he had in mind the Graettinger-arranged Kenton stuff. And he's right.
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, BIG UPS to them for putting that Dreamies album on there! I just listened to that last night (along with White Noise oddly enough.. those two albums are on my freak-out shortlist I suppose)
Tilt needs to be higher.
And lastly, scott and hstencil have convinced me to listen to that Joe Byrd and the Field Hippies album tonight.
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ballad of El Janko (JasonD), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)
jorel, this isn't even the same band! i mean maybe the musicians, but...
and Free Your Mind is way more fucked up to me than Maggot Brain. the whole thing is trapped in a gigantic echo chamber
― The Ballad of El Janko (JasonD), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:27 (twenty-one years ago)
That reminds me, for a short period of time, I thought that my freshman English teacher was Joe Byrd because he was this old hippie guy (who, now that I think about it, beared an uncanny resemblence to Mr. Rosso, the guidance counselor on "Freaks and Geeks," but I digress) and his name was Joseph Byrd. Anyway, I looked up Joe Byrd's whereabouts on the interweb and he IS a college professor, but not at the University of Maryland. And he teaches music, not English. Of course, I should have known, considering he was a music professor when he started the United States of America (with some of his students, right?)
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ballad of El Janko (JasonD), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)
This is a good example, MJQ w/ Guiffre --
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000063NC6/qid=1107498637/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-4204839-3895845?v=glance&s=music
This is that Kenton stuff--
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000005GZJ/qid=1107498593/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/103-4204839-3895845
I don't really dig that Joe Byrd record as much as the USA album proper, but I should listen again. He also put out this pretty bad all-synthesizer Christmas album on Fahey's Takoma label in the mid-70s!
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ballad of El Janko (JasonD), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:41 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost: the very beginning is cool, yeah, but the rest of the first side is BORING. Also, side two of An Electric Storm is much better Echoing-Chick-Going-"You-Will-Die" music.
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ballad of El Janko (JasonD), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)
the orgy song is fucking rad
― The Ballad of El Janko (JasonD), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ballad of El Janko (JasonD), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ballad of El Janko (JasonD), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.cyborg.ne.jp/~akio01/cover/cherry/ECM-841124.html
Escalator came later on the label. I gotta hear that 80s Haden record too. God, you know, I just saw Paul Bley last Friday and he was kinda horrible. Overplayed, didn't listen well to the others ... I didn't get him at all.
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)
-- Stormy Davis (electrifyingmoj...), February 4th, 2005.
Actually Carla is on half of the Mantler JCOA record, the piano stool on the other half obviously being occupied by Our Cecil. She has a nicely spikey little solo at the start of "Communications #8" and in the booklet there's a pic of her seated at the piano in an extremely short skirt just to remind us how, er, "hott" she was (still is as well! looks remarkable for 66!).
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 4 February 2005 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 4 February 2005 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 4 February 2005 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― rob mackey (mackey), Friday, 4 February 2005 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 4 February 2005 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)
Well, I did offer my services but there was no room at the inn...
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 4 February 2005 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 4 February 2005 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 4 February 2005 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)
Pah!!! Wot a swizz!!!!!!!!!!
― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)
and i wonder how many mojo readers thought 'jesus daddio, i must get me some of them out there sounds for the vw golf stereo!'
they should totally do a list of the most 'in there' records. i wonder who would be no 1? the cowsills?
― debden, Friday, 4 February 2005 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― simon 803 (simon 803), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)
Bob Dylan - there's a few they could have picked from, but maybe something like Bringing It All Back Home would have been a good choice - stuff like "Subterranean Homesick Blues" must have seemed pretty out there at the time. It's at least as out there as the Hendrix and Beatles records, I think.
There's lots of weirdness from Japan that they could have included - the Boredoms are really just the tip of the iceberg:
The Gerogerigegege - He's got several albums of out there stuff. There's a pretty good summary of it here:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gerogerigegege,+The
Maybe something like Endless Humiliation or Singles: 1985-1993.
Then you have the noise scene: Merzbow, Masonna, that stuff is pretty out there. Also a lot of Keiji Haino's stuff. The Hanatarash and Omoide Hatoba are Boredoms-related projects that plumb some outer reaches of out-thereness.
Harry Partch - His stuff can seem pretty out there: microtonal music played on instruments he designed and built himself, with lyrics sometimes taken from ancient Chinese poetry or hobo graffiti from California highways. Especially when you consider that he was doing this stuff during the Great Depression.
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)
Though for some reason I thought "Discordance Axis" as well.
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nick H (Nick H), Friday, 4 February 2005 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)
that Gordon Jenkins record is great, it's going to be fun when that gets reissued
― (Jon L), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)
― (Jon L), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)
― Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)
Note the albums with space related topical subject matter (Sun Ra, Ascension, "Astronomy Domine" on Piper, Hawkwind, Starsailor, I Hear a New World). Otherwise, it's a spatial metaphor referring to the genius or outsider being at a distance from normality (distance = space).
-- Tim Ellison
― Tito JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 7 February 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 7 February 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)
― Joe Pulver, Monday, 7 February 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)
― Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 7 February 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)
your perspective only, pal
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)
Ground Zero: "Revolutionary Pekinese Opera"Ariel Pink: "Lover Boy"Lee Ranaldo: "From Here To Infinity"John Maus: Love Letters From HellUm: The New AlbumStock, Hausen & Walkman: "Oh! My Bag"Amit Lissack: The Person With The Ideas
...and maybe some Red Crayola and Pere Ubu too!
― Max Tundra, Thursday, 23 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)
― hank (hank s), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)
― James, Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)
― James, Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)