PFM Top 100 Albums 2000-2004

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100. Various Artists - DFA Compilation #2
99. The Unicorns - Who Will Cut Our Hair When We're Gone?
98. Clipse - Lord Willin'
97. Black Dice - Beaches And Crayons
96. The Decemberists - Castaways & Cutouts
95. Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You
94. The Strokes - Room On Fire
93. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
92. The Clientele - Subruban Light
91. Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside Out
90. DJ/Rupture - Minesweeper Suite
89. Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand
88. Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain
87. Ekkehard Ehlers - Plays
86. Bjork - Medulla
85. Keith Fullerton Whitman - Playthroughs
84. Mu - Afro Finger And Gel
83. Prefuse 73 - Vocal Studies & Uprock Narratives
82. King Geedorah - Take Me To Your Leader
81. Le Savy Fav - Emor EP
80. Annie - Annimal
79. The Go! Team - Thunder Lightning Strike
78. The New Pornographers - Mass Romantic
77. The Wrens - The Meadowlands
76. Missy Elliott - Miss E...So Addictive
75. M83 - Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts
74. Aesop Rock - Labor Days
73. Deerhoof - Reveille
72. Sleater-Kinney - One Beat
71. The Shins, Oh, Inverted World
70. Sonic Youth - Murray Street
69. Erlend Oye - DJ-Kicks
68. 2 Many DJs - As Heard On Radio Soulwax, Pt. 2
67. Herbert - Bodilfy Functions
66. Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash
65. Basement Jaxx - Rooty
64. Animal Collective - Here Comes The Indian
63. Cat Power - You Are Free
62. Iron & Wine - The Creek Drank The Cradle
61. The Books - Thought For Food
60. Spoon - Girls Can Tell
59. M.I.A./Diplo - Piracy Funds Terrorism, Volume 1
58. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell
57. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists - Hearts Of Oak
56. The Postal Service - Give Up
55. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
54. Joanna Newsom - The Milk-Eyed Member
53. The Dismemberment Plan - Change
52. Max Tundra - Mastered By Guy At The Exchange
51. Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher/Extinguished
50. Kanye West - The College Dropout
49. Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow
48. ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead - Source Tags & Codes
47. The Shins - Chutes Too Narrow
46. TV On The Radio - Young Liars EP
45. The Arcade Fire - Funeral
44. Deerhoof - Apple O'
43. McLusky - Do Dallas
42. Manitoba - Up In Flames
41. Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven
40. The Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat
39. Radiohead - Hail To The Thief
38. The Rapture - Echoes
37. Ghostface - The Pretty Toney Album
36. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free
35. Jay-Z - The Black Album
34. Sufjan Stevens - Greetings From Michigan: The Great Lake State
33. Missy Elliot - Under Construction
32. The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
31. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists - The Tyranny Of Distance
30. Clinic - Internal Wrangler
29. Fugazi - The Argument
28. Liars - They Threw Us All In A Trench And Stuck A Monument On Top
27. Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It In People
26. Fennesz - Endless Summer
25. Brian Wilson - Smile
24. Boards Of Canada - Geogaddi
23. The Notwist - Neon Golden
22. The Microphones - The Glow, Pt. 2
21. Radiohead - Amensiac
20. The Books - The Lemon Of Pink
19. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
18. Devendra Banhart - Rejoicing In The Hands
17. Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun
16. The Strokes - Is This It
15. Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner
14. Spoon - Kill The Moonlight
13. Madvillain - Madvillainy
12. Daft Punk - Discovery
11. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
10. The Streets - Original Pirate Material
9. Animal Collectie - Sung Tongs
8. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells
7. Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antarctica
6. Sigur Ros - Agaetis Byrjun
5. The Avalanches - Since I Left You
4. Outkast - Stankonia
3. Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
2. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
"No, you reading it right, this really is The Blueprint at No. 2, bested only by Pitchfork's Oxford-schooled golden boys. My my, how things have changed, am I right? But let's not get into a big conversation about our history with hip-hop and lists and such, for it's an ugly topic. It's much more compelling that our No. 2 album is almost completely the inverse of our No. 1; one the work of a band looking to distance themselves as far as possible from their pop-culture image, the other the work of an artist looking to declare his supremacy over the music world. Kid A was consciously designed to be radio-allergenic and promoted as elliptically as possible. The Blueprint, meanwhile, is as radio-fertile as albums come these days, and was pretty much a concept album about self-promotion.

Hopefully, I don't need to convince you that The Blueprint is any less of an artistic achievement for its directness. The record found Jay eschewing the space-filling crutches of skits and guest stars (except for Eminem) and recruiting the hottest producers of the present and the future (except for Eminem). Beat-makers like Just Blaze, Kanye West, and Timbaland laid down their most complicated tracks to try and snare Hov, but Hov couldn't be stopped: sludgy Doors loops, horror-movie soundtracks, Mexican dancehall-- all are easily taken down by his effortlessly melodic, charismatic ruminations on arraignments, drug dealings, and, of course, dissing Nas (was there ever a more productive rap battle?). Me, I prefer Jay-Z when the backing track is appropriately cinematic, soul strings swelling, fanfare blasting, everything in its right place as Sean Carter ascends his throne. --Rob Mitchum"
1. Radiohead - Kid A
"Exactly how and why Radiohead's Kid A has come to stand as the definitive artistic statement for rock-consumers born after 1975 is almost ridiculously difficult to discern. People believed, and continue to believe--sometimes manically, always fervently--in the metaphysical heft of Kid A: in its inherent aesthetic worth, its innovation, its meaning. In 2000, Kid A felt true and inscrutable, and, five years later, it somehow still does: from its chilling opening organ figure to its closing silence, Kid A is enormous-- a huge, sweeping testament to Radiohead's ever-swelling world view.

This album was an obvious departure from its predecessor, the guitar-riddled OK Computer, and alternately challenged and confounded Radiohead's core audience. Regardless, the record's supposed "difficulty" also lent it a certain sense of gravity: Kid A is confrontational and insistent, mysteriously capable of convincing some of the most stridently anti-electro guitarheads that inorganic flourishes can feel bloody and real. Consequently, in the months following its release, Kid A transformed into an intellectual symbol of sorts, a surprisingly ubiquitous signifier of self, a membership card, a confirmation. Owning it became "getting it"; getting it became "annointing it." The record's significance as a litmus test was stupid and instant and undeniable: In certain circles, you were only as credible as your relationship to Kid A. And that kind of intense, unilateral, with-us-or-against-us fandom felt oddly, uncomfortably apropos in the face of all that sound.

It is in this weird sense that this was (and continues to be) the perfect record for its time: Ominous, surreal, and impossibly millennial, Kid A's revolutionary tangle of yelpy, apocalyptic vocals, glitchy synths, and beautiful drones is uncertain about both its past and present-- and, accordingly, timeless. --Amanda Petrusich"

Source Cited
http://pitchforkmedia.com/top/2000-04/albums

― Ersaph, Friday, 4 February 2005 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

gawd enough with these lists already

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

must be an insider, that URL doesn't work for me.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"Kid A" is a cult.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost -- yes, I thought this list wasn't going on their site until Monday?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

it's been leaked ! insider/ mole or maybe a Pitchfork Parody piss-take?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

If it's a piss-take, it's a damned convincing one.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

gawd enough with these lists already

AMEN

― mcd (mcd), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

If it's the real thing, it's interesting that the Arcade Fire (PFM #1 album of 2004) finished behind SIX other albums from 2004 on this list.

Anyhow, I shouldn't waste time commenting until the list is confirmed to be genuine.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

404

― buck van smack (Buck Van Smack), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

4UP REP"ZENT YO

― Sansai, Friday, 4 February 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Milk-Eyed Member"

Ew.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 February 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

How do the indie rock faithful feel about this list?

That LJ thread feels like a Klan meeting or something.

― Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Friday, 4 February 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"at least they got murray st right. i guess. i don't know what erlend oye is doing on there; that album was terrible. if pitchfork was one person i knew in real life, i'd probably make fun of him/her a lot."

Yep.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Hold me back.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

kill the drama, matthew! try the thinly veiled racism here instead.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, that LJ community almost makes me embarassed to call myself a record snob.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"For me, rap always had a "C" missing."

People still make this joke? It's 2005!

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Usually PFM lists are at least good for argument, but what good is a list that is basically a smushing together of five lists they already made.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

It doesn't take much to remind me that I love the little cultural bubble that I live in.

― Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Friday, 4 February 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

"When VH1 ran 'Cool as Ice' a few months ago, I was amazed that Vanilla Ice was actually a better rapper than most of the clowns out there now."

Yep.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Amoeba always has like twenty used copies of the avalanches.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a shame. There's been no better album this decade.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I like a coupla songs on it, but it doesn't really do all that much for me.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

More like : there's been no more stupidly overhyped album this decade. hence all the used product cluttering up the racks.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Meh. You guys hate feeling dwarfed by genius.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I predict another 15 posts before there's a post from this thread worth "Yep"ping.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Avalanches are great.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

13 posts left.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Dom, meta-posts don't count. Duh.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Those reactions to the PFM list remind me of the reactions I got when I posted the ILX '90s poll results on an AOL board, where a bunch of middle-class white shut-ins rolled their eyes and wondered where the Pearl Jam was at, and all submitted their own lists. If I recall correctly, out of maybe 10-12 lists, there was one black artist, and that was Lenny Kravitz. I argued that perhaps Pearl Jam was, in retrospect, terrible compared to Wu-Tang, and I was laughed at and people quoted deep lyrics from No Code to me.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

You guys missed this comment, which is Yep-worthy from the username right on down.

MJKTool
DVD Talk Legend

Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Vagina

I recently have been flipping between the different music channels and I really am floored by how much crap rap is out there right now. I swear every video was the same goddamn thing over and over again. You have these rappers who cant rap worth shit surrounded by their posse bragging about their money and jewely, flashing it to the screen over and over again. Doing donuts in an expensive car in a parking lot. Having women shake their big nasty asses to the screen.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

ever get the feeling that ppl who say that kind of shit are the reason pornos have such lame lite-jazz music accompaniment?

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

he's talking about ILX (except for that "nasty" in the last sentence)

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"we're diverse! see, jay-z!"

My thoughts exactly.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

that Kid A writeup is so, so awful

― W i l l (common_person), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

That "Kid A" writeup is brilliant because she talks about its impact without ever saying that the music is any good. That is, to sum up Amanda P.'s writeup more succinctly,

"Kid A" is a cult.

-- MindInRewind (brune...), February 4th, 2005 12:44 PM.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, I wonder what that list would look like if there'd been any pop albums released this decade.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

ever get the feeling that ppl who say that kind of shit are the reason pornos have such lame lite-jazz music accompaniment?

What porn are you watching? All I hear are Casio pre-sets.

And Dom wins. Something.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 February 2005 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I was more embarrassed by Julianne's article today. She's light-years beyond Pitchfork, she shouldn't lower herself.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 4 February 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the Avalanches, but I cant think of anything more effective at clearing a dance floor at a non-hipster party.

― Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Friday, 4 February 2005 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

92. The Clientele - Subruban Light

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 February 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah Dave, Bigger Lovers wuz robbed!

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 4 February 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the Avalanches, but I cant think of anything more effective at clearing a dance floor at a non-hipster party

Maybe not good for dancing, but I brought Since I Left You to a non-hipster party just to put on in the background and got lots of "hey, this is cool, what is this?" comments.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 February 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

kish kash?? room on fire??
yet no goldfrapp no stereolab no broadcast and only one bjork and one new pornographers!?!?
i seriously have no business looking at pitchfork..i guess it's sort of amusing at times though..

― reo, Saturday, 5 February 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

None of that really surprises me, Reo.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 5 February 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

pitchfork seems over eager to do/re-do lists and ilm seems over-eager to bash those lists regardless of what is on them (although obv there is some overlap between pf and ilm). lets all chill out and listen to the blueprint together, as it will please all parties. this list has some good stuff on it. it's a damn good list, though there isn't enough dmx on it from my personal perspective. but thats ok.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 5 February 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

what i mean is - every list, no matter how good, will miss out on stuff. this list is very good. i'll admit i don't see the point in it, as it just re-confirms where pf is at and where it has been in ways that i don't think we need reminding of. but its still a good list.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 5 February 2005 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Neither Super Furry Animals album is on there. !

― Jerkhead, Saturday, 5 February 2005 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

How do the indie rock faithful feel about this list?
That LJ thread feels like a Klan meeting or something.

-- Matthew "Flux" Perpetua (mperpetu...), February 4th, 2005.

jesus i am all over that thread erm mind if i link them here as I am bouncing between both threads like a stupid yo yo

― elwisty (elwisty), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

How did the last two years' #1 records only land at #'s 45 and 38 respectively? I could see how a record praised in 2000 or 2001 could easily fall out of favor with the heavy writer turnover they've always had, but Arcade Fire was voted #1 of 2004 just ONE MONTH ago! Does backlash happen so quickly (I know it does- ESPECIALLY in indie circles- but Pitchfork is/was the record's biggest booster, so it's a big shock) or is it that all the people who voted Arcade Fire highly on the 2004 list saw it as a non-entity in the grand scheme of the early 00s? Or is it that the 2004 results were actually Editors' Picks, rather than the staff's, as it has been debated. Wow, I sound like I care a LOT. I really don't. I'm not even a fan of the Arcade Fire. I just find this interesting.

― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Saturday, 5 February 2005 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

the Rapture is looking pretty slight these days.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 5 February 2005 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not so much that they put so much rap/hip hop on the list...they're just ranked inconsitently, compared to how they were initially treated by Pitchfork when they were released...Stankonia wasn't even reviewed by pfm. Also, pfm are still holding on for dear life to the remnants of the White Stripes bandwagon, and Sung Tongs is unlistenable.

I'll go ahead and call it: A hip hop album will recieve a 10.0 from Pitchfork this year.

― Matt Parten, Saturday, 5 February 2005 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't you think that maybe some of the point to this list is to demonstrate that in the eyes of their critics, some records haven't held up as well as others, and that they may have initially underestimated or overestimated some artists? I'm sure that when they do the full decade people will be all "why is the Arcade Fire so low/not there when they flipped out for it back in 04," etc. It's all about hindsight - it seems like the oldest stuff is cast with the most clarity/certainty - ie, there's little doubt that people 5 or 15 or 30 years from now will recognize The Blueprint and Kid A as significant/beloved albums.

― Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Saturday, 5 February 2005 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Also worth noting: the album reviews are written by individuals, and the lists are made as a group. Just cos one dude LOVED The Arcade Fire, it doesn't mean that the rest of the staff cared as much or liked it at all.

― Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Saturday, 5 February 2005 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"It's not so much that they put so much rap/hip hop on the list...they're just ranked inconsitently, compared to how they were initially treated by Pitchfork when they were released...Stankonia wasn't even reviewed by pfm. Also, pfm are still holding on for dear life to the remnants of the White Stripes bandwagon, and Sung Tongs is unlistenable."

Yep.

(Thank you, Matthew.)

Also, please note that in regards to this snuggly sentiment (which is probably more yep-worthy):

"I'll go ahead and call it: A hip hop album will recieve a 10.0 from Pitchfork this year."

The Eminem Show, from waaaaaay back in 2002, would've gotten a 10.0 if a Mr. Ethan P. Shabazz had his way.

― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 5 February 2005 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Accident or purposefully leaked?

Which side do you fall on?

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Saturday, 5 February 2005 06:00 (twenty-one years ago)

It was an accident. The list showed up where the 70's list was archived.

― Logan (the_three_G_s), Saturday, 5 February 2005 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

the biggest pleasant surprise of that list is Tyranny of Distance being ranked above Hearts of Oak.

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

whoever thinks Sung Tongs is unlistenable must have a really really short attention span

― lemin (lemin), Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I would have had Room on Fire much higher.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 5 February 2005 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm surprised there isn't any Songs: Ohia on the list, as Pfork has been a big Molina booster.

Also: Cat Power, "You Are Free." Really? It may just be that I don't like her work, but I remember this being met with a pretty lukewarm reception. Is its reputation being revised upward?

― Derek Krissoff (Derek), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I too think it's weird that the #1s from the last two years are placed so low--below other albums from the last two years. I can think of no explanation for it, except that, inherently, lists like this are kind of dumb and basically arbitrary.

I think some smart journalists out there should invent a new way of looking at music retrospectively that ISN'T a numbered list.

Also, Songs:Ohia - "Magnolia Electric Co." - should be on there instead _somewhere_.

― mrjosh (mrjosh), Sunday, 6 February 2005 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, if this list were un-numbered it would be about 100 times better.

― mrjosh (mrjosh), Sunday, 6 February 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

and about 100 times less interesting and about 100 times less debate starting.

― greg ginn thought neubauten was bullshit, why don't you? (smile), Sunday, 6 February 2005 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

What, so now that the list is officially up, everyone's talked out? Pshaw.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 7 February 2005 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't stand how similar it is to the ILM list!

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Monday, 7 February 2005 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Dom, please give your prize to Stevem.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 7 February 2005 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

That interpol blurb is probably the worst blurb i've ever ever ever read.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 7 February 2005 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

they hated the clientele in 2001. actually, at no. 92, most of them probably still do.

― debden, Monday, 7 February 2005 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

When the Stylus list came out, the first thing I noticed was how similar it was to ours -- 13 of the top 16 in each list are the same, with at least one other top 20 crossover. But as the PFM 00-04 singles thread demonstrated, the two sites are pretty friendly with one another in a lot of respects, some of us "know" each other in person or online, so that makes it difficult for me to sort out whether there is a new canon or consensus emerging (which would surprise me to some extent) or if it's just a matter of the online/blog music communities communicating with one another and gravitating toward the same artists and records (and ignoring the same: no elephant, love below, sea change, stories from the city..., on either list).

It also seems like the internet has drastically narrowed the critical divide between the us/uk. Girls Aloud is one big exception.

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Monday, 7 February 2005 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, didn't dleone put vcn on his 90s list too? CHEATER.

i guess it wasn't counted on the 90s one though

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 7 February 2005 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

has the quantinty of quality of british music stagnated as much as these lists would have you believe? I definately think so.

even the ones mentioned such as basement jaxx and franz ferdinand are boring(I dont have to mention Radiohead, do I?). The clientele are class, though.

― Lovelace, Monday, 7 February 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

kill the drama, matthew! try the thinly veiled racism here instead.

-- Jams Murphy (ystrickle...), February 4th, 2005.

Maybe I missed something, but how is it racist to not like hip-hop or music "about sex and drugs"??? This is a joke, right? By that reasoning, is it racist to say indie rock is shit? I love hip-hop, but certainly you can understand how some people (especially those not exposed to, say, Stones Throw) might feel it is complete SHIT. People could consider most beats to be repetitive and abrasive, most rhymes to be juvenile or boring, and the macho posturing to be laughably ridiculous.

-I- like the music of course. I'm just sayin...

― neroy, Monday, 7 February 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

re: Arcade Fire. For the 2004 list we alotted points to each record, as with Pazz n Jop. But we did the 2000-2004 list the old fashioned way. So any discrepancies may be due to the different systems, not just indie backlash.

For the record, though, I didn't place The Rapture.

― marc h., Monday, 7 February 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"old fashioned way" = 100 points for #1, 99 points for #2 ... 1 point for #100?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"old fashioned way" = cockfight.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

If "Kid A" is no. 1 than how can anyone take this list seriously??
But oh well.

― zeus, Monday, 7 February 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I was hoping this thread would have been Premiata Forneria Marconi's top 100 albums of 2000 - 2004

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Really, though, couldn't you say that about any record ("If that was No. 1...")

Even Tom Ewing liked Kid A ;-) (or was it Amnesiac??)

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the pictures.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, but why 'Kid A'?
to be honest, I only found one really good album in the top10 (OPM), but I religiously hate Kid A.
it's a shame that Pitchfork seem to break all the rules in the last 2 or 3 years, they've changed a lot, but will this adoration of Radiohead ever change?

― zeus, Monday, 7 February 2005 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

not while it's merited

― jedidiah (jedidiah), Monday, 7 February 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

but the problem is it isn't merited.
believe me, it's official.

― zeus, Monday, 7 February 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i was a little disappointed i guess, mainly because they chose not to use the points system used in the 2004 poll. when the editors can divide their points and give more to the albums they want to champion, the list ends up being more representative of the staff's personal tastes... oh well. i don't even heed the master list. i just look at the personal lists of the editors i trust (sylvester, leone, carr, ubl) and then get ideas about what to check out next. it's almost like having a friend with great taste in music give you a shopping list.

*did you know..... that without the points system, Devendra Banhart would have been
PF's no.1 album of 2004? talk about an upset (although i love him, so i would't have cared).

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 7 February 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

52. Max Tundra - Mastered By Guy At The Exchange

This pleases me and disappoints me at the same time.

― Ryan WS (fffv), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

100. Various Artists - DFA Compilation #2
88. Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain
84. Mu - Afro Finger And Gel
82. King Geedorah - Take Me To Your Leader
79. The Go! Team - Thunder Lightning Strike
76. Missy Elliott - Miss E...So Addictive
75. M83 - Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts
66. Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash
65. Basement Jaxx - Rooty
61. The Books - Thought For Food
52. Max Tundra - Mastered By Guy At The Exchange
51. Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher/Extinguished
43. McLusky - Do Dallas
42. Manitoba - Up In Flames
41. Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven
36. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free
33. Missy Elliot - Under Construction
30. Clinic - Internal Wrangler
24. Boards Of Canada - Geogaddi
22. The Microphones - The Glow, Pt. 2
21. Radiohead - Amensiac
19. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
17. Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun
12. Daft Punk - Discovery
5. The Avalanches - Since I Left You
2. Jay-Z - The Blueprint

FIXED

― Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

where's Alcachofa? Circulatory System? Fantastic Damage?

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

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