Rolling 2005 Country Thread

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I think last year's country-related threads turned me on to more music than any others. The rolling 2004 country thread didn't even start until 2004, so i figured it best to get an early start...

john'n'chicago, Friday, 4 February 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay!
"My Give a Damn's Broken," Jo Dee Messina: a great rockin' single that makes me very happy because it's like Shania and Toby Keith in a mash-up

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

At the moment I'm loving "That's Why I Hate Pontiacs" by Rebecca Lynn Howard. Except I can't find it for download anywhere and just have to listen to top 40 country stations waiting for it to turn up.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

what i like so far:

BILLY DON BURNS
DEANNA CARTER
SHELLY FAIRCHILD
SHOOTER JENNINGS
MIRANDA LAMBERT
MAGNOLIA ELECTRIC CO.
TIM MCGRAW “Drugs Or Jesus” single
ELIZABETH MCQUEEN AND THE FIREBRANDS
MARY PRANKSTER
LEANN RIMES (not nearly as good as her previous disco one, though)
SAWYER BROWN WITH ROBERT RANDOLPH “Mission Temple Fireworks Stand” single
DALLAS WAYNE
WIDE RIGHT - cover of "The Pill" by Loretta Lynn on their imminent but not otherwise country second album
LEANN WOMACK
*The Little Darlin Sound of Should Have Been Hits* reissue comp

but the new Kathleen Edwards album is a complete bore (and i'd liked her first one a couple years ago okay)

chuck, Friday, 4 February 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

er, that should read: "The rolling 2004 country thread didn't even start until October 2004..."

john'n'chicago, Friday, 4 February 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

(My favorite song by far on the Miranda Lambert album, by the way, is the one that sounds exactly like some Screaming Blue Messiahs song from 1986. "Me and Charlie Talking" is okay, though, I guess.)

chuck, Friday, 4 February 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Elizabeth McQueen's covering pub rock and waveabilly. Some of it does have a countryish theme, feel, and/or arrangement. Including the best two-three tracks, one of which she wrote (would like to hear more originals). But mostly, she's way behind the original versions that I'm familiar with (by Dave Edmunds, Nick Lowe, Graham Parker), and kinda boring on most of the songs new to me. Probably better live though. Tift Merrit's "Good-Hearted Man" is kinda disgusting, but I recently heard her do another song on "The Tonight Show," which was very fetchin', though not Gretchen: more on the womany-folkie side, but but she does have the (fairly rare) knack for that, at least live( speaking again of live).

don, Saturday, 5 February 2005 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link

So I guess that new BUCK 65 quasi-retrospective that I've had an advance of since last summer but only just recently got the real thing of sorta counts as a 2005 country album too, right? If you want it to. Either way, it's quite good.

chuck, Sunday, 6 February 2005 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Grupo Montez de Durango's new album is really great if you don't mind a little polka and INSANE FUCKING DRUMS which do SNARE ROLLS ALL THE TIME FOR NO REASON. Awesome song structures; the last tune (which is I think the only one written by a bandmember) is positively Webbian in its shifty melody.

VH1 Country has been playing a lot of some dude's version of Hank Jr.'s "It Takes a Whole Lot of Liquor to Like Her," anyone have any ideas who this big Bubba Sparxxx lookalike is, and is it from this year or not?

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 6 February 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

New CMT show, true/falsing various country urban legends, confirms that the Warren Brothers had an 80s Christian Metal band, St. *Warren*! An album too. Debunked: David Allen Coe did not teach Charlie Manson to play guitar in prison. Did Jimmy Hoffa in fact finace his first tour bus? They didn't answer that one.

don, Sunday, 6 February 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Heard three more songs from Lee Ann Womack's 'There's More Where That Came From' at a Virgin Megastore yesterday, and they're pretty much all as good as the single (which is still my fave single of '05 so far). The album's out Tuesday, and I am wet with anticipation. This could be one of '05's best, regardless of genre.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Sunday, 6 February 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Has anybody pointed out that the single from the Lee Ann Womack album (the hate myself in the morning one) sounds a *lot* like "Little Green Apples" by O.C. Smith? (Hey, seeing how I have the both songs on vinyl now, maybe I'll play them back to back when I DJ next weekend.) My favorite song on the new Womack is still probably the 20 years and two husbands ago one, though.

I still didn't hear the new Kenny Chesney album. I'm sure I'll probably like it when I do, though everybody saying how "quiet" and "intropective" it is isn't as encouraging as Kenny saying on CMT that he's been listening mainly to Bob Marley and Jackson Browne records on his boat lately. I was kinda hoping that "Island Boy" was gonna be a come-out-of-the-closet song, maybe even an answer to the old Elton John hit, but somebody would've said something by now if it actually was, right? (Other bad news for gay marriage in Nashville fans: Big Kenny apparently got married to a woman last weekend. Though Kandia Crazy Horse swears that "Little Kenny" is the guy who inspires more rumors down there. Jon Caramanica has said that the male bonding in the backstage tiki bar on Kenny's last tour was quite impressive as well.)

This weekend, the HACIENDA BROTHES album kicked in for me -- somebody at Koch is apparently making a concerted effort to get me to finally like alt-country, and they're doing a real good job. (Who knows, maybe they have Dwight Yoakam doing A&R. I can totally see him loving those new CDs by the Hacienda Bros and Dallas Wayne -- who is from Springfield MO not Dallas by the way, and whose last album on Hightone was really good too, and whose new album's title track concerns a stalker fan who winds up murdering said fan's idol at the surprise ending -- not to mention he'd love all that Little Darlin stuff Koch has been reissuing lately. I really liked the Groovy Joe Poovey collection they put together last fall. Other people would maybe like their new Johnny Paycheck and Jeanie C Riley reissues more than I do. The *Should Have Been Hits* comp I mention above has five or six pretty great tracks, and 14 or 15 other ones frequently endearing in their catchy ineptness.)

One last thing: If I hadn't let *Black Shelton's Barn and Grill* sit around til early January without listening to it, it easily would have made my 2004 country top ten. My favorite track, even more than "Some Beach," is probably "What's On My Mind." And okay, this is *really* stupid -- only in the past week did it occur to me that Blake Shelton (who kinda drawls like John Anderson, to my ears) and Ricky Van Shelton are not the same person! For weeks I kept thinking "Didn't he used to be totally boring and puritan? When did he suddenly get good??", and now it's clear that they are two different people. So. Does anybody know whether Blake's previous albums are worth looking around for?

chuck, Monday, 7 February 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Leeann's cute as lil green apples, but whut she's actually got is big pink melons, wafting in the breeze (hey I'm just quotin the video--and did yall see that camera disappear into her cleavage in the vidoe of the duet with Wilie)

John Q. Mellonfarmer, Monday, 7 February 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG country gossip: Allison Moorer and Butch Primm are separated! She's dating Steve Earle now, they're moving to NYC together and touring together and recording together! I don't know what this all means for either of their careers! But it's gossip! So I'm reporting it!

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 05:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I listened to "Little Green Apples" this morning back to back with the Leann song, and confirmed that they do indeed sound alike. I'd forgotten what a great song "Little Green Apples" was, though it's pretty creepy when O.C. goes into that minstrel blackface "when myself iz feelin low" part. (Also, how come so many black country singers had names like O.C. Smith, O.B. McLinton, and O.V. Wright? Or is that just my imagination?)

chuck, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

new big $ rich single = "big time" (their third best so far!)

chuck, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

that's a pretty good song, but where is "real world" dammit?

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't quite place whether "Mission Temple Fireworks Stand" is really as bold and fun as it might be, or if it's just the bright colors in the video coloring my opinion.

the new Trace Adkins single "Songs About Me" is almost good, I like the concept, but the melody and especially the chorus never seem to get going.

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Caught Tim McGraw's "Drugs or Jesus" on the radio, and what an open-ended piece of preachin' it is:

Everybody just wants to get high
Sit and watch a perfect world go by
We're all looking for love and meaning in our lives
We follow the roads that lead us
To drugs or Jesus

Out of context, it might as well be Depeche Mode.

briania (briania), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

sort of...except tim mcgraw can sing!

chuck, Friday, 11 February 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, yeah, and Tim McGraw can be surprising, too. The deejay announced the title before playing it, and I was struck with a complete case of what the F%#$??!? Can't say I've ever thought that about just the title of a DM song.

briania (briania), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone heard "Over and Over" on country radio?

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Sure, all the time.

briania (briania), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, good.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Word 'em up on the love for the Leann Womack album.

Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Never appreciated DM til I heard Johnny Cash do "Personal Jesus."

don, Friday, 11 February 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

the new Deana Carter kind of sounds like half Avril Lavigne and half Allison Moorer

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

new shelby lynne album: thumbs down (i'm still waiting for her to go back to western swing, or at least to "sell out" again and piss off her triple-a fans. though *suit yourself* is *maybe* slightly less reserved than her last one.)

akron/family (lifeless alt/art-country on m. gira's label): thumbs downer

chuck, Friday, 11 February 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Shelby is a case of backward commerciality, in which the more she sells out, the less it's bought. She's got an alt-audience.

briania (briania), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

More on "Over & Over" airplay, and further proof that I live in bizarro-land. I've never heard it once on the local "urban" station (which actually only plays music with rappin' on it during certain restricted time slots, anyway), but it was in hot rotation on the clearchannel country station.

briania (briania), Saturday, 12 February 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Kinky Friedman's running for Governor of Texas. Slogan: "How Bad can It Be?" Not badatall, especially compared to what they've gotten so far. Excellent interview with Wolf Blitzer this afternoon (probably archived on cnn.com). He's as good with the gnarly soundbites as prim Howard Dean. When Howard becomes Democratic Party Chairman, mebbe they can have a live oral duke-out (all proceeds to the charities undeerfunded since the tsunami relief effort's been flooded with donations)(would be good if proceeds coud go to the programs being underfunded as Bush drains them to show that he does too care about tsunami, but you can't donate to the guvmint!) Sure won't go to the Dems, cos Kinky's strictly independant. Points out that Texas is No. 1 in executions and No. 49 in education, but he's not against the death penalty in principle, just "wanna see the *right people get executed, not the innocent ones." A radical position in TX, where theyhave a special Appeals Court to which prosecutors can appeal,incl vs. them nasty DNA tests (And even *after* such tests:the Appeals Court obliges with "well maybe it wasn't *his* blood on the victim, but he coulda handed the knife to somebody else previously undtected, at the last second," ect.)Also, Kinky talks about Jesus quite a bit for a guy witha Lone Star O' David on his flag. But in sum, "I want kids to be able to say 'Merry Christmas' again, ever'body to smoke cigars wherever they want to, cowboys to sing again and horses to nbe smart again. An anti-wussification campaign, one wuss at a time." Wolf:"I think he was looking at me when he said that."(Course he was, you were interviewing him.) Hopefully there will be an album of campaign songs. At least there's a family tradition of singing governors: Texas had W.W."Pappy"Daniels, of Lightcrust Doughboys fame; Louisiana's Gov. Jimmie "You Are My Sunshine" Davis (whose Bloodshot collection is still in print, I think); Alabama's Big Jim and son Little Big Jim Folsom, and whut about Gov. Cliton's mellow sax

don, Saturday, 12 February 2005 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

correction "like prime Howard Dean."Not "prim Howard Dean." And Kinky won't scream like meltdown Howard, cos the cigars give him too manly a vocal "range."

don, Saturday, 12 February 2005 06:21 (nineteen years ago) link

What's the deal with this solo album from Big Kenny? It's a rerelease of an older CD, right? Is it worth a damn?

Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Saturday, 12 February 2005 07:50 (nineteen years ago) link

reissue of the year, probably:

*You Ain't Talkin' to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots of Country Music* (Columbia/Legacy three disc set).

I am playing the advance now, and (so far) it is amazing.

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

(so tell us about it please?) B&R in dresses, etc: they kinda remind me of Y'all, and can hear how they might've been influenced by THE HEY Y'ALL SOUNDTRACK: SONGS AND JINGLES FROM THE FIRST SEASON, whch might have also influenced Muzik Mafia's roadshow/medicine show aspect, as well as the basic sound. Although B&R do it better, but they're going for something more Cinerama--this is spozed to be like a syndicated pop-country show from late 60s/early 70s (credits incl. JR Taylor as Key Grip, Neil Strauss as Gaffer, Porter Wagoner as Dolly, Friends Of Dorothy doing Travel Arrangements, Kristi Rose as Jingle Girl, Nashville cats such as Redd Volkaert, Roland White, Fats kaplan, etc.)Jay Byrd and Steven have since broken up, as couple and duo, but couldn't stand to be too far apart, so both are back in Nashville, far as I know. One's got a a book and a comp and the other's tweaking a documentary of their life and times, which I think has been shown at Sundance (see luckygreendress.com) Oh yea, and the B&R song about the kid who wants to be a rock star, and they're chanting "pro-zac, pro-zac," is real close to a (happier) epic on Daniel Johnston's REJECTED UNKNOWN. Both got dubbed-in arena zombies cheering them on, etc.

don, Monday, 14 February 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link

>(so tell us about it please?) <

well for one thing there are TWO different versions (by charlie and by arthur collins) of "moving day", which holy modal rounders covered on their great first-i-think album, and two (by charlie and by gid tanner & faith norris) of "goodbye booze," which peter stampfel covered sometime later (on *going nowhere fast* with weber, a/k/a/ the best folk album of the '80s, maybe?). also cameo tracks by the north carolina ramblers, floyd county ramblers, highlanders, blue ridge highballers, peerless quartet, virginia string band, the immortal uncle dave macon of course, big chief henry's indian string band, and many more, most of them seemingly doing versions of songs that charlie also did. also two versions of a somewhat offensive ditty called "coon from tennessee," including one by the georgia crackers (is that emmett miller's band? i think it might be, though i dunno if this is him here). and of course charlie's "seet sixteen," which invented bubblegum music since it's about a 16-year-old girl literally fond of chewing gum. is that enough for now? (so who would wind a battle of bands, charlie poole or dock boggs? i have no idea.)

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

oops, "SWEET sixteen" i meant (though said song does not explain whether her chewing gum lost its flavor on the bedpost overnight).

chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

speaking of seet sixteen, see whut yr. daughter thinks (u sure are coming out as a superfolkie all of a sudden! Her influence? Rat on)

don, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=81251

and he is GOOD rapper, by the way.

chuck, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Looking fwd to that. Musik Mafia is frustrating because so far I haven't gotten to hear much music, just all this "reality" stuff, like Rich getting pissy, even when ever' body else agrees that the first night show was indeed just a hair off, like the (how dare he!) NYTimes reviewer gently mentioned. Gets pissy about other stuff too. Also, there's some unintentional visual distraction, like when Heart joined Gretchen and B&R (duo and band) onstage, and I got completely sidetracked by this "Indian" feather growing out of Big Kenny's thatched roof. He was hunched over, back to the audience, strumming and minding his own business, but dayum...

don, Friday, 18 February 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link

is there some weird cunninglingus shit hapening in kenny chesneys key lime song, it sounds like a country version of warrants cherry pie--w/o any of the macho bullshit. (also its laughably bad)

anthony, Friday, 18 February 2005 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link

ITEM: Jessi Alexander, Honeysuckle Sweet (Sony Nashville), good debut album from a young singer/songwriter named for Jessi Colter; folk and soul and country vibes, not very rock-ish, collabs with Gary Louris and Benmont Tench and Darrell Scott and her boyfriend Jon Randall (wrote "Whiskey Lullaby" and works with lots of bluegrass people as well as top Nashville studs), pretty production and co-writing with Gary Nicholson. I like this person, she's funky.

ITEM: One of the best country singles of the year so far is Intocable's "Aire," currently #1 on the Latin charts, what a great band.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Also: Anthony's review of Kenny C's album in today's Stylus is some very nice work. AE, you are the bomb these days.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Agreed: I was thinking about reviewing that one myself (I actually did for the local paper) but Anthony far surpassed anything I could've managed on the subject, I esp. liked how he touched on colonialist baggae w/o getting bogged down in it.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Friday, 25 February 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the Reckless Kelly album (country rock on bluegrass label Sugar Hill), which Edd Hurt told me about (though they don't sound as much like .38 Special as he says they do, or even as the new EP by New York garage band the Fame does, though to me that Fame one actually sounds even more like Rick Springfield when you get down to it), and which just entered Billboard's country chart this week (RK not Fame that is).

chuck, Friday, 25 February 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Holly (or Holley?) Williams, daughter of Hank Jr., heard thsi past weekend on Public Radio's "Woodsongs" (they also had Jack Clement recetly! Pushing new product? I'll check)(they have a lot of crap on there too). This HW dosn't sound anything like the Hanks, or like her aunt, Jett Williams. A clear, unaffected voice, but with moments of well-timed drama (melodramtic just technically; "melo"=music or course). Songshapes kinda like Townes (but no "harlequins" or solemn self-referential imagery), Gram (his originals; his covers tend to be more twangy than hers), the crisper acoustic Neil, Lucinda I reckon, or Cyndi Boste, although her voice isn't that deep (rangewise or emotionally, but the latter may come). I guess the reflectivenss *is* like some of her famliy's (even her Dad's, found at its least guarded on his post-faceslide ballads). But not stylistically. This was an acoutic set, think she might've had a second guitarist.I need to listen to the actual tape: it got the whole thing, though I just started listening while she was in progress. But on a bad radio, across a room I was stressing around, she finally shut me up and set me down, which doesn't happen that often. We'll see what the album can do (produced, or *produced*?)

don, Friday, 25 February 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

shooter jennings is in this months gq, and seems the asshole. aw shucks you guys.

anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

So he's gonna play his father, and these other li'l critters and playing Johnny and June, in some movie? That's weird. Can't see them having the presence, but mebbe.

don, Saturday, 26 February 2005 05:27 (nineteen years ago) link

hes singing the updated theme for the dukes of hazard theme song, i dont know anything about him in the june/johnny project.

anthony, Saturday, 26 February 2005 05:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, some little bit on TV: "Heh, I'm playin' my dad. It's a trip, man"--maybe he's just gonna imitate Waylon doing those little occasional voice-over narrative bits, as well as the theme, for Dukes? I wanna see Nick Nolte as Waylon, dang it.

don, Saturday, 26 February 2005 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link

james

why are you doing this?

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 December 2005 09:16 (nineteen years ago) link

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 29 December 2005 09:27 (nineteen years ago) link

why dont we take this to email, so we dont have to ruin a good thread

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 December 2005 10:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Anthony, really, if you don't understand why "This One's For the Girls" is one of the great country-pop singles of our time, you should have heard it during the bouquet-throwing part of my sister's wedding in Michigan last year. (Though admittedly they played "Bad to the Bone" during the garter-throwng part, which struck me as a whole lot more dorky.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 29 December 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

next time yr sister gets married, ill fiangle me an invite

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 December 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Hope Partlow's "Girlfriend" - fast ZZ fizzies on the guitars. Another reason to consider the album country, though my favorite track is "Everywhere But Here," which is the least country/most teenpop feisty wail of a sad-happy I'm gone 'n' you'll miss me lament-triumph Ashlee-Lindsay-Lohan thing.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I meant Ashlee-Kelly-Lohan thing. Otherwise, I'm being redundant.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't heard Gypsy Punk and would like to (though to be honest, New York Gypsymania is still sitting on my half-heard pile). But if I were counting Euro-Gypsy immigration music as country - which I'm not - Kultur Shock would finish number two, behind Deana and ahead of Miranda.

(Is Chuck the only other person in these parts to have heard Kultur Shock? If Bordello are gypsy punk, these guys are Balkan thrash, among other things.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Listen to Kultur Shock here.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link

whoah. Is he singing "Tutti Frutti Geritol"? I think the Metal/Rom mash-up works, and made me think about thrash rhythms differently, as in their relation to folk rhythms. Good singer and decent accordion player too.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 30 December 2005 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link

do you want me to burn it for you Frank, and i admit, im being a bit perverse w. the gogol bordello nom.

i like acholol well enough, kind of clever, well constructed, but i dont understand it on all the best lists, can we talk about that

anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link

the day after I
sent in my P&J list
I got a package

eleven CDs
all from Indies Records in
the Czech Republic

at least two of them
might have made my list if I'd
gotten them in time

at least half of them
are country-eligible,
hott punkk violins(e)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 December 2005 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Whoah, I hope you will be saying more about the Czech label stuff.

Sorry to bust in everyone, but don, can you e-mail me please. My mail to your yahoo account is bouncing.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 30 December 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link

"Alcohol" is Rolling Stone's numero uno single of the year. I think that says something. Its appeal is vast: I don't know if it was Paisley's biggest radio hit, but it was on the country stations here like crazy, plus the video was pretty good, actually great, by country video standards. It's an uber-singalong ala "Friends in Low Places" and maybe the funnest single about drinking since that tune. It's country that both country and non-country folks can dig. The point of view really is smart; without it the catalog would be indistinguishable. It's got some killer guitar and pedal steel and piano too. It's the first country song to name drop Hemingway. It fits great on a mix tape with Robert Jay's "Alcohol Pt. 1" from that groovy Searching For Soul compilation on Luv and Haight this year. But I still didn't vote for it.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 30 December 2005 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link

i still think that song
patronizing; i pre-
fer "cornology"

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 December 2005 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Made my Nashville ballot (lower half), not my P&J ballot. First Brad Paisley song I ever cared about; may never give a shit about a song by him again. (Question: Is BP the better guitar player, or is Keith Urban? I really wanna know.) Point of view reminiscent of "Your Only Friend" by Phuture.. But then again (like lots of rock critics?) I drink too much. Including tonight, sigh.

xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Also I believe it is a WALTZ (though i may be wrong.)

xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link

thats canon, Kasten--and its skilled, clever, well constructed, but the guitar isnt as lovely and complicated, or even as fun/low key as other songs on that album, or even songs about drinking this year, i mean i can name 5 or 6 Singles about booze that are as fun, that can be sung along by large clouds, are future karoke classics and do all of that better then Mr Paisley (who i love, usually, well not love, but have a realtionship that i really do respect)

Paisley is the more skilled guitar player i tihnk

anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus, sorry, i am totally a sucker for the geographic specificity of that "since the day I left Milwaukee, Lynchburg, and Bordeaux, France" line, even though (theoretically at least. by alcohol genre) 99.99999 percent of the alcohol I consume would fall in the Milwaukee category, and even though I have no idea how much beer comes from Milwaukee, how much whiskey comes from Lynchburg, and how much wine comes from Bordeaux. Maybe not much. But, in this case anyway, somehow it's the thought that counts....xp

xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link

xhuxk are you a huge
fan of "heart of rock and roll"
by huey lewis

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 December 2005 05:05 (nineteen years ago) link

its clever, v. well written,
Songs that are better:

All Jacked Up by Gretchen Wilson (with the line: "I grabbed a tire tool and I broke my window, hurt my elbow got me in though"

Tequila makes her Clothes Come Off by Joe Nichols (with the line: I told her to put another layer on/you know what happens when she drinks Petron)

Good As I Once Was by Toby Keith, (with the line:I still throw a few back, talk a little smack
When I'm feelin' bullet proof)

Hicktown by Jason Aldean (with the lines:
We hear folks in the city party in Martini Bars
And they like to show off in their fancy foreign cars
Out here in the boondocks we buy beer at Amoco
And crank our Kraco speakers with that country radio)

Compared to these, Pasiley is a workman

anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link

"Heart of Rock and Roll" is pretty good, but the best tracks on *Sports* are "You Crack Me Up," "Walking on a Thin Line,""Heart and Soul," and "Bad is Bad," possibly in that order, and "If This Is It" and "I Want a New Drug" are better than said song as well. Maybe "Finally Found a Home" and "Honky Tonk Blues" too? I dunno. It might be the worst song on the album! But damn, what a great album.

It occurs to me that rock critics often frequent venues where (drunk) white people dance, as well. (An occupational hazard, perhaps, but it helps the song ring true.)

Note though that Toby beat Brad on my own Nashville scene list:
8. Toby Keith - "As Good As I Once Was"
9. Brad Paisley - "Alcohol"

xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link

my nashville scene list
must needs be completed soon!
tomorrow night. wine.

and just so you know
the second-best reissue
can be found right here

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 December 2005 05:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I need that Rawls album!
Easton: Like I said, I didn't even vote for it on my Scene ballot, so that's all the defense I'll muster. I'm too lazy to look up if it out-charted those songs you mentioned, but my hunch is it did. Not that that should matter, but it probably does. I take Paisley over Urban as a guitar player too.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 30 December 2005 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

roy
can you please not call me by my last name, i dont know if its jocular or not, but its a long standing issue, and its my shit, but it really sends shivers...

i can do the charting, if you want--but i think that those did as well, im not saying its a bad song, and im not saying it didnt do well, i just find its critical ubquity strange.

thanks
ase

anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 09:36 (nineteen years ago) link

>thats canon, Kasten-<

Not my business, Anthony, but ahem.

xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i fucked up there, i read too quickly.

anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Worth looking at, if you haven't already:

No Depression Top 40 of 2005

xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Is "If This Is It" on Sports? I thought it was on Fore.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Scratch that, I was thinking of "Happy to be Stuck with You".

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link

dear frank, does this carrie underwood song (my favorite on her album so far, and probably the hardest stomping and most boogiefied and jazziest and mostly gruffly vocalized, though there's lots of other good stuff on the CD) count as punk rock? I think it very well might:


Right now he's probably slow dancing with a bleached-blond tramp,
and she's probably getting frisky... right now,
he's probably buying her some fruity little drink cause she can't shoot whiskey...
Right now, he's probably up behind her with a pool-stick,
showing her how to shoot a combo...
And he don't know...
That I dug my key into the side of his pretty little souped up 4 wheel drive,
carved my name into his leather seat...
I took a Louisville slugger to both head lights,
slashed a hole in all 4 tires...
And maybe next time he'll think before he cheats.
Right now, she's probably up singing some
white-trash version of Shania karoke..
Right now, she's probably saying "I'm drunk"
and he's a thinking that he's gonna lucky,
Right now, he's probably dabbing 3 dollars worth of that bathroom Polo...
And he don't know...
That I dug my key into the side of his pretty little suped up 4 wheel drive,
carved my name into his leather seat,
I took a Louisville slugger to both head lights,
slashed a hole in all 4 tires...
And maybe next time he'll think before he cheats.
I might saved a little trouble for the next girl,
Cause the next time that he cheats...
Oh, you know it won't be on me!


xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

"We're Young and Beautiful"'s another boogie, total Bo Diddley beat.

xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Right now, he's probably up behind her with a pool-stick

oh my.

i've never heard that song, but that is an awesome lyric.

but oh my.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

"I Ain't In Checotah Anymore" is totally amazing too. Clearly if I wanted to be a pest I would send Geoff Himes an ammended version of my Nashville Scene ballot, with *Some Hearts* my #6 album or higher, but having been on the other side of such ammendments for a couple weeks now I know what a pain in the ass it is, so I won't. (May vote for her next year though, and damn the literal-release-date rule.)

xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

i fucked up there, i read too quickly.

No prob, and sorry, Anthony, I didn't mean to be Snow Meiser back at you. (p.s. I didn't get the "canon" thing--did you mean I was being canonical?)

I also think "Alcohol" made more lists than I would have predicted, and I was just trying to toss off ideas as to why--though really I don't have a clue. It sounds swell on my shitty radio in my car, I never turn the dial when it comes on, and if I were making a top 20 country singles list, it would be there, but I can't generate much more enthusiasm this early in the day. Oh wait, it's "Sympathy For the Devil" rewritten as a drinking song. Maybe that explains it. :)

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i mean that the thinking you have presented about the paisley single was canonical, and i wanted a deconstrction

anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

How is this "canonical"? Just because he mentioned Rolling Stone??(Wow I am totally lost):

>"Alcohol" is Rolling Stone's numero uno single of the year. I think that says something. Its appeal is vast: I don't know if it was Paisley's biggest radio hit, but it was on the country stations here like crazy, plus the video was pretty good, actually great, by country video standards. It's an uber-singalong ala "Friends in Low Places" and maybe the funnest single about drinking since that tune. It's country that both country and non-country folks can dig. The point of view really is smart; without it the catalog would be indistinguishable. It's got some killer guitar and pedal steel and piano too. It's the first country song to name drop Hemingway. It fits great on a mix tape with Robert Jay's "Alcohol Pt. 1" from that groovy Searching For Soul compilation on Luv and Haight this year. But I still didn't vote for it.<

xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought the topic was why "Alcohol" made so many critic lists, ie, why it has been canonized. I wish I could deconstruct how that happened, but my brain is fried today.

Anyways, I'm having fun listening to the new Jessi Colter album and drinking a Christmas present (a bottle of VO; more people should give booze for xmas). Among the many pleasures: electric piano MIXED LOUD. Maybe too much harmonica though.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 31 December 2005 00:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think I would have voted for Alcohol if i hadn't seen the video.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 December 2005 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link

and its not the frst to name drop hemmingway, chesney did it a year before
and thats exactly what i mean roy, thnx!

anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 31 December 2005 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Without the line "helping white people dance" it only gets half the airplay and about 10% of the votes.

The music is kind of... [shrugs].

Brad Paisley songs that mean a lot more to me than "Alcohol" does:

--"Whiskey Lullaby" (I like my alcohol songs better when someone dies)

--That one from several years back where he asks the girl if she wants to dance and she says "No," and he says, "That's good, I don't want to either," or something like that.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 31 December 2005 05:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Chuck, I'd have to hear the Underwood to decide if it felt punk. E.g., Lohan's "I Live for the Day" probably reads as far more virulent than Ashlee's "I Am Me" (Lohan: "I live for the day, I live for the night, that you will be desperate and dying inside") but its feel isn't punk; it's more Crüe glammetal joy (though better than I remember Crüe ever being). Whereas when Ashlee's going "whoa whoa whoa," she's dancing on our graves - something that wouldn't come across on a lyric sheet. (Not that Ashlee's dance isn't as joyful as Lindsay's; but it's also far more earnest. Ashlee works hard.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 31 December 2005 06:03 (nineteen years ago) link

its not the frst to name drop hemmingway, chesney did it a year before

Yeah, you're right. I always forget about Chesney. I think it's a willful thing.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 31 December 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, "Alcohol" is in triple-time. I think it's a great single, didn't care too much for the rest of the album. to my ears, it reminds me of something by Ray Davies, simulated Kinks-esque "sloppiness" in triple time, and pretty funky if you ask me, sly.

As far as the Carrie Underwood song about scratching up the guy's car with her keys, I thought it was OK, didn't like the one she cowrote about Checotah. Liked the Diane Warren songs, one or two others, felt the whole record was overkill, just too damned much going on with the admittedly superb playing and Paul Buckmaster string arrangements dovetailing with the perfect guitar licks and all that, and sometimes her singing just really got underneath my skin. boy, someone really worked *hard* on that record, and I don't even think she's a bad singer at all--a good singer, but for me that is never quite enough.

guess I'll go over to the ND thread and look at that list again--it just dispirited me so much I didn't even want to post my comments about it.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 1 January 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago) link

So is it time to start a 2006 thread yet? Anyway, I think Carrie's Checotah song is really rousing, it totally gets the big sky in her sound when she sings about missing it, and I love the lines about there being no Walmarts in New York and her hotel housing as many people as a small town and her dinner costing as much as a downpayment (though I could easily recommend NYC restaurants where that wouldn't happen) and about the Oklahoma college football game (though are there really cows to tip in Tulsa? I wouldn't know.) "Wasted" is also great, maybe "Jesus Take the Wheel" too, maybe more, I'm not sure yet.

Any Canadians know about Bocephus King? Joe McCombs burned me his 2005 CD, and it's fucking great, though it's as much blues and gospel and prog and Eurodisco as country (I guess the actual genre would be "singer-songwriter," except most ss's forget about having any music. Bocephus doesn't; he's got tracks that last 10 minutes, even instrumentals.)

Reissued debut Duhks album from, uh, 2002 or so is also quite entertaining by the way.

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link

(Joe compares Bocephus King's singing style to Leon Russell's on AMG; I never listened to the latter much beyond "Tight Rope", but the vocal comparison sounds right to me.)

New Anthony Hamilton, though, despite his occasional country rep, is significantly less country than Lionel Richie not to mention a crashing bore, total "'70s soul" in quotes shtick, except Anthony has neither the voice nor the melodies to pull '70s soul off, Maybe not the lyrics either, though it's possible his delivery caused me to miss some. Not sure if his early stuff is better than this or not; Haikunym to thread, you've got explaining to do.

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link

i just started a 2006, i hope thats alright)

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 1 January 2006 07:14 (nineteen years ago) link

No it's not! Yes of course it is. Actually I'm not the one to ask, probably. But this might help:

Rolling Country 2006 Thread

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I Love Eliza Neals new album "Liquorfoot" check out all her live video on her site http://www.liqorfoot.com like 2 hours worth. I saw your thread XHHED and checked Her out. I love "love me like that" being a little overweight myself, I seem to be humming this all the time now....
OK thanks and keep posting new stuff so I can find new artists like Eliza, Thanks

Susan M in Nashville, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

The Dixie Bee Liners new CD is pretty killer. Ostensively bluegrass, but lots of other influences too, mid-sixties Osborne Brothers, Dillards, they call it "bible belt noir."

Eric Karmen, Monday, 30 January 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link


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