good god, what the hell, though? I guess as a statement of just howfar you can take "technique" in the context of heavy metal, it's worthwhile, but God, I really can't imagine actually managing to make it through an entire concert. Highlights:
a/ 2 numbers in, I'm like why do they even have a keyboard player? Ican't play for shit and I could probably hold down this gig. Later inthe set I ate my words haha.
b/ wtf is it w/the keyboard player's rotating kurzweil stand? that'spretty fucked isn't it?
c/ why does the drummer have 4(FOUR) kick drums?
d/ most of the keyboard player's lead breaks are phrased like leadguitar breaks, and use a similar tone. Would this band actually bebetter off w/2 guitarists?
e/ if you were to ask the question "who is the best rock (x) player"the answer would undoubtedly be "the (x) player in dream theater".This could probably be scientifically proven.
BUT...
f/ do they EVER lay off? the drummer, who is AWESOME, and and whoadditionally has the best heavy rock groove/feel I've heard - how canI put this? Imagine a drummer who's really fiddly on the hi-hats,like he never lets up w/the tikka-tikka-tickler-tickler-tikka-tikkaall the time he's playing. The drummer from dream theater is likethat except on the kick drum. It's a bit much.
g/ the singer looks kind of like some ultra well-groomed windham hilltype, like yanni or something.
h/ in addition, he has this weird stage lighting setup, like he has anupward-pointing light at the front of the stage, and when he sings, hesteps into it, so his face is lit from below. I guess it would bereally effective on small stages, but at the Budokan? WTF?
i/ I liked the band best when they sounded most like Metallica. Themettalica-ish bits of dream theater would basically blow the realmetallica into the weeds!
j/ I had this funny thought part way through, and I started laughing.The guitarist asked "what are you laughing at?" and I said "I'm tryingto imagine what this band would sound like with mo tucker on drums"and he sort of frowned and said "who is mo tucker?" I couldn't reallyexplain.
k/ and amusing alternative take on this is to imagine what otherrecords would sound like if the drummer from dream theater played onthem - it works best with, say, edgar froese's "epsylon in malasianpale" or Brian Eno's "Apollo" or Popol Vuh's "Brothers ofDarkness/Sons of Light".
l/ The guitarist plays so fast his lead breaks sometime sound likewhat Sinclair Spectrum or Commodore C64 game tapes would sound like ifyou played them on yr hi-fi. He basically seems to know of no otherspeed except "faster than you could possibly ever play in your wholeentire life, loser haha" leading to...
m/ there's this bit where he's playing a flamenco guitar break oversynthesiser orchestra. It would have been great, except he plays sofast, it sounds like a bee.
...and...
n/ at one point our guitarist was like "LISTEN TO HIS AWESOME FUCKINGTONE" and I'm like "how?" none of his notes ever sing out or decay. Imean, he could have the best tone in the world or the worst, and you'dnever be able to tell.
o/ his signature model music man guitar has the most ridiculous lowercutaway imaginable. I mean, there's enough room that you could getyour leg through it & play guitar w/your foot if you wanted to.
p/ the bass player. Jesus fucking christ. Hello carpal tunnel syndrome
q/ on the whole, for all they're really fucking mightily impressive,they're kind of athletically impressive, rather than musicallyimpressive. If I wanted to see a technoflashy rock concert, I'd muchprefer to see Rush or Utopia. Dream Theater can play faster than anymusician in Rush or Utopia, but it seems to me that grandstandingtheir awesome technique is the nr1 aim of this band, which is valid, Iguess, but Rush and Utopia have tunes that are 10000000x better.Which is not to say that DT have no tunes, I can remember one or twoof them, but there's nothing anywhere near as good as "Last of the NewWave Riders" or "Subdivisions" or "Communion with the Sun" or "Xanadu".
There you go. It's probably worth seeing this even if you're not intothis band, or their whole aesthetic, just for the sheer ludicrousspectacle of it.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 5 February 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. Z Indahouse (AaronHz), Saturday, 5 February 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 5 February 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 5 February 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. Z Indahouse (AaronHz), Saturday, 5 February 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 5 February 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 5 February 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)
Click on and read the comments. I'll never make fun of Rushfans again...
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 5 February 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, great review, fuckface. You hardly said anything about the songs other than you didn't like them.
ha! Talk about missing the point! Perhaps I should de-google this thread?
(btw, who do I send review copies to for this site?)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 5 February 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 5 February 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)
"The Fucker Who Will Burn You" = fanboy classic!
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 5 February 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)
webmaster@progreviews.com
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 5 February 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)
― f--gg (gcannon), Saturday, 5 February 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)
Oh COME ON! You can play bass while shitting. What a slacker.
― Dr. Z Indahouse (AaronHz), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)
― thee music mole, Monday, 7 February 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 11 September 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 12 October 2006 00:37 (nineteen years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 October 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)
don't watch this
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 12 October 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)
I'm still laughing a little about point K, above. That's the thing about these guys. I don't think they're capable of tasteful playing for more then 2 minutes straight. I guess that's not the point of their music, though.
― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:35 (nineteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 October 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)
Their songs just seem to be frameworks for showing off their musical ability. All their riffs sound like variations on tunes by Rush or Kansas, hence their songs sound like medleys of something you know but can't quite place.
For all their technique it's pretty basic rhythmically. They sound like the songs that get played on instruction DVD's at some drum clinic or something, the kind of songs that only exist to demonstrate a technical point. Really, someone like Billy Cobham or Christian Vander are way ahead in terms of rhythmic complexity and improvisational ability.
The bassist has a really flat, horrible tone that means you can barely hear him most of the time.
The singer rarely seems to sing, no? Most of the clips I found on youtube he's nowhere to be seen. What a cushy job! They should give him some congas like Deep Purple did with Ian Gillan. Or a tambourine.
I would love to hear a collaboration between Dream Theater and Tetuzi Akiyama.
― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Thursday, 12 October 2006 08:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 12 October 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 15 January 2007 07:29 (eighteen years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 15 January 2007 07:37 (eighteen years ago)
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 15 January 2007 08:23 (eighteen years ago)
― Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 7 April 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)
― unperson, Saturday, 7 April 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)
― nabisco, Sunday, 8 April 2007 00:46 (eighteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Sunday, 8 April 2007 00:50 (eighteen years ago)
― nabisco, Sunday, 8 April 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)
lol
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=145759
― CharlieS, Thursday, 9 September 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)
I like the part where he pretty much says the rest of Dream Theater are boring, then immediately apologizes.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)
it's really funny when people make fun of a band like Tool for being prog wankers when there's nightmares like Dream Theater around
loooooooool SO TRUE
― I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)
Jordan Rudess' iPad apps are more than a little bit amazing
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)