Rockist Anthems

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Apologies in advance for bringing it up AGAIN (or if this has been done before)

so... songs that champion, decry, or even acknowledge the R word.
1. Jet - that DJ song
2. Waylon Jennings - "Are You Sure That Hank Done It This Way" --which is extra great 'cause in the last verse he implicates himself when he "plays one of his now and then, but i don't think Hank done it this way"

Will(iam), Sunday, 6 February 2005 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

3. Stereophonics - "Mr Writer"

In which Kelly Jones whines on and on about being slagged off by a mere journalist who could obviously never play the kind of experimental prog-jazz that the Stereophonics have spent literally hours of practice to master. The twat.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

4. Outkast - "Wailin'" --"I hear those flows that ain't hip-hop, you find that shit in the gift shop" (tho this may be more about sheer ablity)

Will(iam), Sunday, 6 February 2005 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

5. Manowar - "All Men Play On Ten"

"These go up to eleven."

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

6. The Wonder Stuff - "Astley in the Noose"

Look, he could sing better than you and he had better songwriters, you mulleted Brummy twat.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 05:51 (twenty-one years ago)

7. George Jones - Who's Gonna Fill Their Shoes

You know this old world is full of singers
But just a few are chosen
To tear your heart out when they sing
Imagine life without them
All your, radio heros
Like the outlaw that walks through Jesse's dream

No, there will never be another
Red-headed stranger
A Man in Black and Folsom Prison Blues
The Okie from Muskogee
Or Hello Darling
Lord I wonder, who's gonna fill their shoes

(Chorus:)
Who's gonna fill their shoes
Who's gonna stand that tall
Who's gonna play the Opry
And the Wabash Cannonball
Who's gonna give their heart and soul
To get to me and you
Lord I wonder, who's gonna fill their shoes

God bless the boys from Memphis
Blue Suede Shoes and Elvis
Much too soon he left this world in tears
They tore up the Fifties
Old Jerry Lee and Charlie
And old Go Cat Go still echoes through the years

You know the heart of country music
Still beats in Luke the Drifer
You can tell when hew sings I Saw the Light
Old Marty, Hank and Lefty
Why I can feel them right here with me
On this Silver Eagle rolling through the night

Bumfluff, Sunday, 6 February 2005 05:54 (twenty-one years ago)

8. The Smiths - Panic

Bumfluff, Sunday, 6 February 2005 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)


god, i havent thought about that george jones song for years. he is *so* the man.

JD from CDepot, Sunday, 6 February 2005 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)

...And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead - Worlds Apart

Random lost souls have asked me
"What's the future of rock'n'roll?"
I say "I don't know does it matter?"
This and that scene,
They sound all the same to me
Neither much worse nor much better

[...]


Look at those cunts on MTV
With their cars, and cribs, and rings and shit
Is that what being a celebrity means?
Look, boys and girls, here's BBC
See corpses, rapes, and amputees
What do you think now of the American dream?

I don't think it can get much more rockist than this.

Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 6 February 2005 06:10 (twenty-one years ago)

10. Nas - "N.Y. State of Mind"

Nas decries "fake niggaz" in an attack on Al Jolson's previously unsuspected influence on Hip Hop.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, there's always Bob Seger's "Old Time Rock and Roll" an anthem about how music used to be great but now it sucks that came out in 1978.

Go ahead. Think of some other records from 1978. "Today's music ain't got the same soul."

Austin (Austin), Sunday, 6 February 2005 06:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Mojo Nixon, "Machines Ain't Music".

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Sunday, 6 February 2005 06:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Billy Joel - It's Still Rock and Roll to Me, maybe

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Sunday, 6 February 2005 07:01 (twenty-one years ago)

14. Queen - "Radio Ga-Ga"

Brilliant satire slags off the mediocrity of pop radio by making it worse.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

15. Embrace- Rhythm and Blues Alibi.

Wherein Embrace correctly observe that the only reason people listen to contemporary R&B is because of the tenous link its name has to Bleeding Ass Hopkins.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 February 2005 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

That souned too good to be true, and sure enough it's actually by Gomez. It would appear they don't understand what an alibi is.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 6 February 2005 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

16. Morris Minor & The Majors - 'This Is The Chorus'

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 6 February 2005 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

17. Eminem - 'The Real Slim Shady'

("I'm sick of you little girl and boy groups all you do is annoy me / So I've been sent here to destroy you")

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 6 February 2005 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"rock'n'roll is better than music" - afrika korps
"that's rock'n'roll" - eric carmen, also done by shaun cassidy
"rock'n'roll ain't noise pollution" - ac/dc
"i don't like rock'n'roll" - schooly d

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 6 February 2005 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

22. Dexy's Midnight Runners - "One Of Those Things"

Kevin Rowland even makes Rockism sound beautiful. Surrenders half of royalties to Warren Zevon tho but. I've just remembered I was banging on about Northern Ireland last night in the pub.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

23. James Brown - 'I'm Real'. On which, as far as I can recall, JB tries to cash in on people sampling his band's breaks by asserting that he's back and he's 'the real thing'.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

24. The Byrds/Patti Smith - "So You Want To Be A Rock & Roll Star"

Rich hippies moaning. Admit it, you love it, you slags.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

25. Sammy Hagar - "I Can't Drive 55"

In which The Official Biggest Twunt In Rock EVAH praises the Rockist way of life via the metaphor of endangering other motorists.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

26. Kiss - 'God Gave Rock'n'Roll To You'. You don't like Rock? Then you have betrayed the Lord.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

27. Kompressor - "Kompressor Does Not Dance"

"You like to eat the rave drugs
You get more energy
You think it's worth the money
But we do not agree
We make pill of poison
With snuffing stimulants
Kompressor watch you die
Because Kompressor does not dance"

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Rich hippies moaning.
Re-listen. I admit love it.

briania (briania), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I love it, but I still reckon that's an accurate precis.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

28. Neil Young - "This Note's For You"

In which Mr Young single-handedly defines Rockocentrism. Pitiful fantasy of some kind of unmediated relationship between Artist, Art and Audience. Later used in a commercial for Wendy's.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Singing about the artifice of one's own pop-stardom seems something like the opposite of rockism. And "rich hippies" is a little out of historical context. And it's too joyous of a song to qualify for moaning.

Now Patti Smith: her every breath is a rockist anthem.

briania (briania), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, they were hardly celebrating that artifice, so I still say ROCKiST. Nice ROCKiST though.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, the sound of it is celebratory. Too me, the gist is: "rock-n-roll stardom is a fast-buck game, but whoopee what a ride" not "I've paid my dues with this axe, man, 'cause I'm the realest mothafucka alive."

briania (briania), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

M.I.A.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Bobby Bare, Jr-----

This letter is addressed to Mr. Pete Townsend,
Hey brother I'm writin' you sayin' thanks for nothing
your generation used up all the feelings
and if we Rock it looks like we're ripping you off

Hey mr. Jimi as write upon this page
my hands shake they shake with a delicate rage
My amplifier has no name
for all that it bleeds sounds derivative and mundane

To whom it may concern, all that Hendrix hath spurned
The Rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air
My Fender is just a painted whore
and if I light it on fire I became such a fuckin' bore

Black Francis, black francis you were the last motherfucker ever
grabbing all the good stuff and leaving No Doubt
that if Rock n' roll dies it's not my fault
I do the best with the leftovers that I've got

...all of the juice had been sucked out
before Mel Bay taught his children to play
so as we climb upon the rotting corpse
stick it once again, see if the blood will c

Chuck Berrry, chuck berry
you wrote the only original song,
some white boys stole it
we all still sing along
Chuck Berry sing to us one more time
before Fred Bizkit freezes everybody's mind

Will(iam), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

He's got a point about Fred Bizkit tho.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

29. XTC, "Funk Pop a Roll"

30. Starship, "We Built This City"

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

32(You missed the Bobby Bare Jr, Alfred). Duke Ellington - "It Don't Mean A Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing)"

Well, that's Bach fucked then.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

33. Jurassic 5 - everything they have ever released.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha that Kompressor lyric is great!

OleM (OleM), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Turbonegro 'Hobbit Motherfuckers'

Ethnic hair styles
Sloppy male hippies
Retro punks
People with thick glasses
Glorifying serial killers
Hobbit motherfuckers
No guts
No glory
No riot

ARGH
YAGH
I've had enough
My generation sucks
AUCK
YAGH
I agree
My generation sucks

Cyber idiots with pierced scrotums
Copulating
With animals
In cars
Parked ouside the rave party
Not enough war
Not enough famine
Not enough suffering
Not enough natural selection

ARGH
YAGH
That's what I say
My generation sucks
AUCK
YAGH
I've had enough
My generation sucks

DJ Mencap0))), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

God gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to you
Put it in the soul of everyone
Do you know what you want? you don’t know for sure
You don’t feel right, you can’t find a cure
And you’re gettin’ less than what you’re lookin’ for

You don’t have money or a fancy car
And you’re tired of wishin’ on a falling star
You gotta put your faith in a loud guitar

God gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to you
Gave rock and roll to everyone (oh yeah)
God gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to you
Put it in the soul of everyone

Now listen
If you wanna be a singer, or play guitar
Man, you gotta sweat or you won’t get far
Cause it’s never too late to work nine-to-five

You can take a stand, or you can compromise
You can work real hard or just fantasize
But you don’t start livin’ till you realize - I gotta tell ya!

God gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to you
Gave rock and roll to everyone
God gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to you
Put it in the soul

God gave rock and roll to you (to everyone he gave the song to be sung)
Gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to everyone

God gave rock and roll to you (to everyone he gave the song to be sung)
Gave rock and roll to you, saved rock and roll for everyone
Saved rock and roll

I know life sometimes can get tough! and I know life sometimes can be a drag!
But people, we have been given a gift, we have been given a road
And that road’s name is... rock and roll!

Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The above is best experienced in the first context i heard it, as visualized at the end of Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. Shots of people in third-world countries waving their hands, world peace being declared, etc etc, all in the name of rock n roll.

I say its the ultimate rockist anthem.

Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac / A little voice inside my head said 'don't look back, you can never look back'"

But Mr. Henley is not going to listen to this voice, because if his blonde sweetie also has this voice inside her head, this sensible voice which embraces change and the future - and she does, because everyone does - Mr. Henley's "long game" is destined to die the sensible death it deserves, and although the names on the back of the uniforms will change, the boys of summer will continue to romp through blonde sweetie's ahem elysian fields in what we can only hope is perpetuity, or at least long enough to forget about this old trainspotter

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

dead milkmen, "instant club hit (you'll dance to anything)"

polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

EPMD's 'Crossover'

Honorable mention: TCQ's 'Check the Rhyme'. "Rap is not pop if you call it that then stop"

in fact the whole "keep it real" admonition from about 92-95 wherever it popped up.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Sunday, 6 February 2005 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

NWA- Express Yourself.

"Others say rhymes which fail to be original
or they kill where the hip-hop starts
Forget about the ghetto, and rap for the pop charts"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 February 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"Keeping it real" is not rockist!!!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 February 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Walkmen, "We've Been Had"

poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, 6 February 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracer Hand - How is "keeping it real" not rockist? As expressed by most artists it was, (not necessarily the TCQ example, their concern was 'selling out', but that phrase, though classic, took them one rhetorical step further) I'm talking about hip-hop policing itself against overt artifice and showmanship and eventually a vaguely articulated(mostly east coast) antipathy toward anything not sufficiently gritty, even putting aside issues of "sellout-ism", and skills being almost beside the point(to that particular meme). Death row and the southern playa aesthetic opened the scene up to merely a variation on the grit/ghettocentric criteria; booty pop, purple wigs, and frivolity are allowed as long as there's gunplay and hustlin' implicit to the backdrop. I think that's where we're at.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Sunday, 6 February 2005 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Smiths - "Panic"

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

OK but what has any of that got to do with rock?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

rockism = judging the quality of music based on nonmusical qualities like "authenticity"

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

shit, sorry, didn't mean to indulge in an other rockism def. debate. Really, really, really sorry.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

*pops in* did someone say rockism?

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

candyman candyman candyman beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice rockism rockism rockism

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry i was using definition 49b, forgot the footnote

tremendoid (tremendoid), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

may I also state for the record that was my first use of the phrase rockist

part of the problem, Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

LETS ALL JUST PRETEND WE KNOW WHAT ROCKIST MEANS PLEASE - NOW ON WITH THE SHOW

Bazingley Wemsted, Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Show" isn't rockist.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Hanging around the kitchen fully clothed= rockist.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN DOM

Bazingley Wemsted, Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

[ Insert Random Oasis Song Title Here ]

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Jim Steinman-Love and Death and an American Guitar".
Candy Slice-"Gimme Mick"
Bette Midler-"Sold My Soul to Rock 'n' Roll"
Sebadoh-"Gimme Indie Rock"

Hot Bitch with an Electric Guitarthur (Arthur), Sunday, 6 February 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah sorry guys. Probably not a lot of interesting places for that to go. I just think the word loses its value or even meaning - aside from flogging the very dead "too much rock privileges boring notions of the genuine" - if it stretches to accomodate any form of "keep it real"ness. In fact this defn. of rockism is more rockist than most, because it imagines the center of rock to be gritty, real, if you don't get it you never will blahblah when there is no such center to rock, never has been, esp if you think of T. Rex and Sigue Sigue Sputnik and PiL and Lou Reed and Little Richard and on and on. And anyway, I like keeping it real sometimes. But I don't think it's a very "rock" thing to do, any more than it's a hip hop thing to do, or a redneck thing to do, or a Toscanini thing to do.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 February 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Gas Station Dogs, "Rock n Roll Dreams Will Come Through"

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Monday, 7 February 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Toscanini was glam.

Masked Gazza, Monday, 7 February 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Love the tautology there btw.. argh. Anyway I think it's funny that "old time rock and roll" wasn't burdened with this stuff i.e. the Chantels, the Platters, Bill Haley, Chuck Berry creating his Simpsons-esque dream car with full roll-away bed and spotlight on top

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 7 February 2005 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Billy Joel - It's Still Rock and Roll to Me, maybe

not so sure about that one. billy's not saying the "next phase," the "new wave," the "dance craze," the "hot funk" or the "cool punk" are bad. he's just saying they all sound like rock and roll to him. he decries not the sound, but the nomenclature. sounds pretty much like chuck e posting on ILM to me.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

exactly

Will(iam), Monday, 7 February 2005 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

twelve years pass...

hits all the check marks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSnTkx1ttrM

HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Monday, 1 May 2017 17:09 (eight years ago)


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