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wow. this is their best one yet. they are actually writing songs now (sort of).

anyone else heard this?

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

no. i wouldn't mind.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

*yawn* (just like the other two)

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

it's gooooooood...


wait am i thinking of the new manitoba?

harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

I'd really like to hear this. Parts of The Lemon of Pink bore me, but there are a few incredible tracks (esp. Tokyo)

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

i need to hear it. did you get it off slsk?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

There is a really great track where they sing each vocal snippet they are sampling.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

It's on slsk. I really should listen to this because I d/l'ed it over a week ago.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

don't like it nearly as much as i liked lemon of pink, which i didn't like nearly as much as thought for food. too much found sound vocal shenanigans, and not enough sliced up folky stuff. pretty subdued overall. i mean, the grass elements are still there, but not in the same frenetic way they used to be.

and, hey

is it just me, or do some of the songs sound like rob crow's non-pinback stuff?

rob mackey (mackey), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

love it. to me, it seems there's less 'vocal shenanigans' compared to lemon of pink, i.e. the vocals blend in much better than before. they've gone a bit more ambient on this one. one track (sorry, forgot the name) sounds like hood (cold house) vs. matmos (the civil war). great.

willem (willem), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm underwhelmed. The first track is a complete departure from anything they've ever done and it's beautiful. The rest seems like an unconvincing rehash of Lemon of Pink, with less interesting melodies, less grass-y guitar playing, and not enough (yes) weird vocal samples. The strength of Lemon of Pink was the song's; this one seems way too cautious and stylized.

Rubberband Man (Rubberband Man), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

'Thought for Food' became my soundtrack to a trip to Portland last year; it's great music to walk around aimlessly to.

Anyway I'll be d/ling this tonight.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

hmmm... I'm writing this after one listen with the hope that my opinion will change.

I find this new record to be really unfocused and in many ways empty of the intellectual aspect that helped balance the pure pop moments and the avant-garde noodling of the previous two releases. Matmos, Hood? Sure, I hear it... but I can't find the sort of whimsical quality that made Thought For Food and Lemon Of Pink so compelling. This is quite a departure.

For now, colour me disappointed... ... but I'm not going to give up on it and I certainly hope something will spark for me.

Mike B., Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Ack. I don't like this record at all. The sound and production per se are good as always, but the songs just meander about uninterestingly (facile melodies and lack of dynamics, mostly). Not even the samples are as interesting. The first song sounds like a bad lost Sparklehorse b-side, circa It's A Wonderful Life. It could have gone somewhere interesting, melodically, but it just didn't.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

Rob, OTM about Rob Crow's stuff. 'None But Shining Hours' especially.

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 21 February 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

I like this album. The Books keep getting more esoteric with each new album. They pack a hell of a lot into just 40 minutes.

At the rate they're going, their next album will be packed with more glitch and static than you can shake a stick at. It'll sound like AGF, except with actual tunes.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
wasn't sure abt the move into relatively conventional songcraft, but i've heard a couple tracks from this that move me in ways their other stuff often failed to ('an animated description of mr maps' especially). doesn't drew daniel have something interesting to say about this record?

jermaine (jnoble), Friday, 18 March 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

the omniscient narrator and soft surrealism and singing on 'maps' remind me of solo paul simon (think 'rene and georgette magritte'). pleasingly, at that. somehow.

jermaine (jnoble), Friday, 18 March 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I also made an early Simon and Garfunkel association!

Momus (Momus), Monday, 28 March 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

speaking of simon and garfunkel, does anyone think the books grabbed their name from "Bookends" as an inspiration? It does have some pretty interesting production work for a folk album, plus the track of only old people talking. I dunno, just some thought for food.

jmeister (jmeister), Monday, 28 March 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

oh, almost forgot. As for the album I think it lacks the best qualities the first albums had. They arent quirky at all anymore and i always thought that the different sound bytes playing off of each other sort of in opposition was the best part of the books. with this album it seems like they just strung the samples together and added their own vocals this time out.

The first track is pretty interesting though, it reminds me of Neu's Lieber Honig. Or the end of side one, i'm not totally sure.

jmeister (jmeister), Monday, 28 March 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

it's pretty much a dud of a record, as samey and grey as the chaff of the genre, nowhere near the heights of "lemon of pink" which was beautiful and eerie and fascinating, except maybe for the aforementioned "animated description..." which sounds fucking amazing on my bass-boomy Koss PortaPros.

Sean M (Sean M), Monday, 28 March 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

eight years pass...

Guys... guys listen. This is the best album of the 00's for me. I'm a nerd for 'collage' and sampled music, The Books, Paavoharju and The Avalanches released three of my top 10 records of that decade and they all share the same sort of ADD approach at making music. But this album, we need to discuss it more over here! Like say, how can you not like a song like say 'Be Good to Them Always'!? The exploded cello! The insistent bounce of the basketball beat! All the voice samples and soundbites that seem mindless at first but they were carefully picked to evoke a strong emotion out of nowhere.
Please listen to this if you haven't already, let this album suck you in and get lost in its stories and carefully crafted textures and rhythms. It's a lifeform on its own. It captures humanity in a record. It laughs, it cries, it falls in love, it cares, it dreams, it gives up, it grows.

Moka, Thursday, 5 December 2013 09:19 (eleven years ago)

nine years pass...

revisiting this a ton lately, think it's probably their best record, quickly becoming one of my favorite albums ever honestly. idk how to explain this exactly but the magic of The Books is that they find all these moments that, unlike traditional sampling, were never really meant for mass consumption and are probably not remembered by anyone, but open up these little context-free windows into someone else's life through which you can make your own psychic connection. it brings life to the past in a way you don't really hear anywhere else.

also just dig the cleverness of these guys - the end of "None but Shining Hours" has this skittering rhythm that almost sounds like it's tapped out on a table or something (it might just be from a really old record though); it doesn't quite repeat though. anyway on vinyl there's so much bass in this part that it actually causes the needle to skip, which I originally thought could be attributed to a bad pressing, but listening again I think this was totally intentional. I mean the record itself does end by slowly accumulating surface noise which I'm guessing they knew would come off a lot different if you actually bought the record.

frogbs, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 14:37 (two years ago)

seven months pass...

^ yes, or the mid-section (~2:25) of "An Animated Description of Mr. Maps" when the beat that was introduced at the outset matches up with the sampled description of Mr. Maps. Impossibly exciting for what it is.

Indexed, Thursday, 4 April 2024 19:27 (one year ago)


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