Why doesn't Drew Daniel....

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Write some full length reviews for Pitchfork?*

I just wonder, because his comments here are always informed, intelligent and enlightening. I noticed the blurbs in the 2000-2004 lists, are there other contributions from non-regular staffers in there too?

It just come across as really tokenistic somehow on Pitchfork's part this way.


*There was that musique concrete piece a while back, might have been the other guy ;-) though.

irritating no life, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Drew Daniel's stuff is amazing. He's a great writer. He fucking kicks the living shit out of any random pitchdork, I can tell you that much. Oh well, I am just happy to read his opinions on ILM. I find him very informative. I just hope cool guy isn't creeped out by this idiotic thread.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

where can one find some writings of mr. daniel?

Rizz (Rizz), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, maybe I'm having second thoughts about this posting now.

PF only ever seems to provide lucid, plainly understandable writing when they are slating something. I could see it going the way of Melody Maker (in a bad way) if it carries on it's current form.

Creepy? :-( I have the first SPT album.. but only like about half of it. I'm not about to stalk him or anything.

irritating no life, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Ummmm.

Hey there.

Here's my random thoughts (sleep deprived as I just got back from Berlin and then had to pull an all-nighter to turn in a chapter chunk to my advisor which I have just finished and emailed off- yEssss)

I have an issue with giving numbered ratings to artwork, as a (quasi/pseudo-)musician I don't personally feel cozy with giving albums a 7.2 or a 5.6 or what have you tho I see why real deal music critics should be willing to do so. . . anyway when the chance to possibly write for P-f0rk came up, I thought "oh, I'll just try to write about individual songs so I won't have to hand out evaluations to the decimal". Stupid Me hadn't noticed that there is a numbered system of stars for singles in the WATW column. Duh. Somehow I hadn't processed that part of the site. By the time Stupid Me did notice that, I was already into taking part in this controlled burst manner because it seemed like a chance to sound off about stuff I dig, and I just sort of carried on. One hit and you're hooked, so lay off the music journalism kidz! So there you have it, yes I am being a bit of a hypocrite by getting on a highhorse about number ratings and then compromising on it, but c'est la vie.

Plus I need to focus on band stuff and dissertation stuff first anyway, so putting a limit on how much music writing I do is part of that, and that's why contributing occasionally and only about individual songs lets me kinda be involved but not overly so.

I'm glad you appreciate what i've written; thanks. As for my involvement, it certainly isn't tokenistic on Pitchfork's part in any way; I'm stoked they let me yap about stuff I like on their site and it's as simple as that. I don't agree with everything on that site, and nobody who writes for Pitchfork could. It's an aggregate of lots of people's opinions, and there isn't a mandate or a party line, though there is a demographic overlap of sorts, which I feel tangential to for some reasons (I am in my thirties not my twenties) and close to for other reasons (I didn't grow up in a big coastal city).

I do have an email address too (mcess@prodigy.net). So next time you are curious you should also feel free to just write me directly. I'm pretty hard to creep out, unless you're a Bj0rk-stalker.

Lock Thread!

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

dEar dRew: hAve yoU evEr rEaD tHe catCheR in thE ryE?????

dork gudmonsbottir (papa la bas), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

delete thread?

I feel pretty dumb for starting it tbh. Thanks for the reply all the same :)

irritating no life, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe this can be the ilxors you've totally thought about emailing but didn't becuz omg you're totally gay for them and intimidated or some shit for some reason

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

dan selzer

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

all of those I haven't e-mailed

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, this threard should be backtracked in case someone starts a "why doesn't Julianne Shepherd..." thread, or "how does Nitsuh...", or "where the hell does Ethan...".

A thread about my dead ass, though, needs its own space. Obviously.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, you forgot about MY thread. Oh wait I have a lot already, never mind. ;-)

Rah for Drew! He's a prince of a feller based on his many comments and makes some mighty fine music to boot.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Drew rights rilly good.

Nkozyra, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

one of my favorite contestants ever! Join the club:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Drew_Daniel_Fanatics/

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick Southall should write for Pitchfork.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I emailed Dan Selzer once about italo disco

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick Southall should write for Pitchfork.

I'd love that.

BTW, did anyone read Drew's Invisible Jukebox in the Anthony Braxton issue of the Wire? That may be my favorite jukebox yet, not least because of the photos.

Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan Selzer dropped an RSW track for me at a dance party once! That's a special feelin'!

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(even though he probably would have played it anyway, but I'm on a high cloud here. Don't get me off it, please.)

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think starting this thread was idiotic or creepy at all!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooooh, what RSW track?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

ha.

i was reading that wire on the train, and just turned the page and folded to save space. i hadn't noticed the last photo in the process and was standing there flashing it all about the uptown 4/5 train.

when i relized this, holding back the laughter was dead hard.

b b, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

from chris upthread: the invisible jukebox was great because he actually knew a number of the songs, which is more than you can say for any number of other jukeboxes - and the blechdom bit at the end was priceless.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone should email me about everything and then not worry about getting a response.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i have never heard drew's music, but i like his posts very much.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i pray he don't read this thread but momus may be getting me laid

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

You better hope he doesn't read this, he's trying to keep the whole pimping biz on the downlow.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooooh, what RSW track?

Either "The Phantom" or "Thunder"... it thumped surely.

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

so weird, i've been thinking about renegade soundwave lately. more becuz tom saying 'the 80s are thru, the 90s are next' and thinking 'what does that mean? renegade soundwave?'

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, considering that the early to mid 90s dance crue were influenced by RSW enough as it is, having a re-re-discovery of RSW would be some sort of meta-influence. My brain already started tripping just thinking about that.

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned always used to say "Renegade Soundwave were the Chemical Brothers of the 80s"

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(But this is a Drew Daniel thread, not a RSW thread.. so I digress)

donut christ (donut), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

stick to making music?

reo, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

No, no, keep the RSW going! How about that song "Cocaine Sex", eh? How great was that? "lick it off the tip of your tongue" etc.

Other 90s dahnce heart-throbs include . . . Bomb the Bass? S' Express? Acen? Meat Beat circa Storm the Studio? Sonz of a Loop Da Loop Era?

Oh, and who knows if Bam Bam's "Where's Your Child?" is on CD?

Let's keep the Pitchfork h8 to a minimum and the whistles blowing and the smart drinks flowing . . . . .

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I have made my own personal 2CD best of. One of singles and one of dubs!!! Let me see if I can find the tracklist.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Drew, I have Bam Bam's "Where's Your Child?" on CD on the Tresor: True Spirit compilation (Tresor 185). That's the Tresor box, and that track is on disc one.

Jena (JenaP), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost, Jena beat me to it

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I put "Where's Your Child?" on my 1988 mp3 mix... it's digitized from vinyl though.. maybe there's a clean digital source out there?

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

oj, duh, jean beat me to it too.

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

S' Express?

"UNO, DOS, TRES, QUATRO"
DUN-UN-UN-UN-UN DUN-UN-UN-UN DUN-UN "Ess... Express!"
DUN-UN-UN-UN-UN DUN-UN-UN-UN DUN-UN
DUN DUN
DOODOODEHDEHDEEDEEDON
*303* *303 *303* *303*
"I got the hots for you.. doot do-doot nenh-ne-nenh"
etc.

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned always used to say "Renegade Soundwave were the Chemical Brothers of the 80s"

Ned STILL says this, because it is true.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"I got long nails, honey, so i can SCRATCH YOR BACK!"

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...
Does anyone know if Drew is busy right now? I am inquiring about a certain interview with a certain musician, which needs to be done very soon!

Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Thursday, 15 September 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

why don't you email him?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 15 September 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

Um, my email is mcess@prodigy.net- remind me of what it's about- I mean I AM crazy busy (trying to create academic job search materials-- CV, job letter, dissertation precis, writing sample-- and write my Burton chapter for the dissertation and also trying to complete and mix the new Matmos record which involves wrangling lots of details into place, and too many committments to shows and DJ sets and blah blah blah and lots of Soft Pink remix work and blargh bleargh blah) but I can usually fit in a short phone chat thing as I work at home- sorry you had to resort to ILM to flag me down . . .

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of commitments to shows, tell us more about the UCLA Terry Riley thing...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

Yeah! I am on the fence.

dr gary busey (dr g), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)

drew. hook me up with you Grizzly remix. I read about it. Yousendit? shhh, nobody has to know

zach, Friday, 16 September 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure the Grizzly stash is out there on the internet somewhere or other, but I think it's only fair that the Grizzlies get to open the kimono on their own remix project when they choose to. Sorry to be a boyscout about it.

When I saw the title of this thread i was hoping that maybe it would be actually helpful advice about what I should do with my life.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 16 September 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

Why doesn't Drew Daniel take a well-deserved break from the craziness of his life so he can relax and enjoy the goodness of things?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 September 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

when is the new matmos album gonna come out? i really dug that last one.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 16 September 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

i suppose it's honerable and hot to be a boyscout.

advice for life: you should throw a Drew festival once a year. Drewfest. I'd go. You curate it. It'd be fun. I can do cartoon sketches of guests a la central park style

zach, Friday, 16 September 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

ps. any new remixes you CAN share?

zach, Friday, 16 September 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

Drew's talk last night at the Guggenheim was awesome, I heard. I got to meet Richard McGuire, which was AWESOME. He's a nice gentleman. I didn't get to hear him speak, sadly...

okamax, Thursday, 8 January 2009 01:38 (seventeen years ago)

where can one find some writings of mr. daniel?

― Rizz (Rizz), Tuesday, February 8, 2005 2:02 AM (3 years ago)

Just to reinforce something I said elsewhere, Drew's book on 20 Jazz Funk Greats is grebt

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 8 January 2009 02:18 (seventeen years ago)

I'm pretty hard to creep out, unless you're a Bj0rk-stalker.

Lock Thread!

― Drew Daniel

It's funny cos it's drew! Bj0rk-stalkers are implacably aggressive defenders of their pixie-muse.

moley, Thursday, 8 January 2009 03:35 (seventeen years ago)

Oh man, I just got home from that 24 hour marathon, it was pretty crazy. I tried to stay up for all of it, but I wound up going to sleep at 6 am, crashing on a beanbag in front of Douglas Gordon's 24 Hour Psycho installation, and then the noise of the janitors coming into the gallery at 8:20 am woke me up right when the grinning skull of Norman Bates' dead mom pops up on the screen: best way to wake up ever. I wound up staying from 6 pm yesterday til 7 pm today but I had to leave just before Grubbs played for the second time. It was exhausting and energizing, very weird and fun thing to do i must say.

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Thursday, 8 January 2009 06:01 (seventeen years ago)

Matmos album was voted #1 in 2008 Brainwashed poll, btw:

Album of the Year

Matmos, "Supreme Balloon" (Matador)

"This is far and away the best record Matmos has ever released. Their signature cadence, abrupt editing style, and virtuosic tendencies are all present, but without a gimmick in sight. I've loved many of their past albums, but this one is more pure and potent." - Lucas Schleicher

"To me 2008 was year of the synth, where releases like this and from Four Tet and Bomb The Bass brilliantly exploited the sounds of the synth. This album is easily the cream of the crop." - Jon Whitney

"In my review for the album, I complained about the lack of a central conceptual conceit uniting the songs on Supreme Balloon. It's true that the album isn't as rigidly structural or conceptually playful as albums like The Rose Has Teeth or A Chance to Cut, but over time it reveals itself as joyfully perverse and masterful in its own unique way. And it must be said that the 2xLP version is vastly superior to the mass-market CD version, both because of its beautiful artwork and the full complement of bonus tracks, which are some of my favorite tracks recorded for these sessions." - Jonathan Dean

"Matmos proves they don't have to sample the sound of ejaculation or use slugs and laser beams to make a great record. The result of their retreat from microphones is pure electronic bliss." - Justin Patrick

ilxor, Thursday, 8 January 2009 06:50 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.brainwashed.com/

ilxor, Thursday, 8 January 2009 06:50 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

hi drew can i just get your response to this dream 1 time:

recently on ILX Dreams...

roxymuzak, Monday, 9 March 2009 03:15 (sixteen years ago)

Irrelevant post but:

I tried to stay up for all of it, but I wound up going to sleep at 6 am, crashing on a beanbag in front of Douglas Gordon's 24 Hour Psycho installation, and then the noise of the janitors coming into the gallery at 8:20 am woke me up right when the grinning skull of Norman Bates' dead mom pops up on the screen: best way to wake up ever.

Reminds me of the time that I once fell asleep in the middle of a class on Rem Koolhaas, only to wake up, totally disoriented, to a huge projected slide of a drawing of a bunch of naked men in a gym wearing boxing gloves.

mehlt, Monday, 9 March 2009 03:31 (sixteen years ago)

you studied architecture?

roxymuzak, Monday, 9 March 2009 03:38 (sixteen years ago)

For the first year and a half of my undergraduate career. Formally, it was pretty much over right after it began, really (I should get it together and start auditing classes).

mehlt, Monday, 9 March 2009 04:22 (sixteen years ago)

somehow i have never noticed you until this week, on this and the skateboarding threads

nice to "meet" you anyways

roxymuzak, Monday, 9 March 2009 04:23 (sixteen years ago)

Nice to "meet" you too (incidentally one week ago marked 4 years on ILX for me).
(It's also ridiculous that that's the only real skateboarding thread on ILX)

but enough thread hijacking. .

mehlt, Monday, 9 March 2009 04:33 (sixteen years ago)

drew

roxymuzak, Monday, 9 March 2009 04:41 (sixteen years ago)

I always feel like I'm in trouble when I see this thread title, like my chops are gonna get busted . . .

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Monday, 9 March 2009 05:35 (sixteen years ago)

did u get a haircut or

roxymuzak, Monday, 9 March 2009 05:57 (sixteen years ago)

(researchin ur life)

roxymuzak, Monday, 9 March 2009 05:57 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

Drew, can you tell me about the student with the samurai sword?

ian, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:09 (sixteen years ago)

i always forget that 'Neotropical pygmy squirrel' is drew d

thomp, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)


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