I say classic, but it was a strange phenomenon. None of them really had any success, save Nick Cave. They were as ignored in London as they had been in Australia, but produced some great work nonetheless.
― Ralf Hutter, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ralf Hutter, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― La Camilla Henemark, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)
Yeah, there are a lot of bands I forgot to mention. Did the Church do time in London? Probably. It was a strange phenomenon though, these Antipodean Dick Whittingtons but when they got here no one was really interested. Were things that dire in Ausatralia at the time that the only solution was to get out?
― Ralf Hutter, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)
That said, I've just looked it up on EveryHit and The Go-Betweens are not showing up.
― KeithW (kmw), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)
The June Brides got on the front cover of the NME in 1985 - this tells us that there wasn;t much around.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― debden, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.jturner.dircon.co.uk/gb/gm&nc.htm
My memory of 1985 was that that guitar-driven indie bands were not really where it was at. The Aussies were a few years too late for that. Or perhaps a few years too early.
― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Miles Finch, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― La Camilla Henemark, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)
But with Grant McLennan in the same house?!?!?
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)
No, I think we ordered them but got sent Icehouse by mistake.
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― debden, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)
80s Indie/punk/garage Aussie scene pretty much classic too. OZ - some great recent comps like 'Do the Pop' and 'Tales from the Australian Underground' show that the reviews of impossible-to-find imports I used to drool over at the time didn't tell the half of it.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)
yes, and they still are.
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
there was a not-so-recent reissue of almost their entire catalogue on CD, although i gather it's now out of print..
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)
huge distances, relatively small population - most of them idiots - you see?
― mullygrubbah (bulbs), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbah (bulbs), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)
j/k course.
― PiersT, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbah (bulbs), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)
x-post: Diesel was doing a residency at the Sando last year. How the shitty have fallen.
― kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbah (bulbs), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)
That Moodists comp was somewhat dissapointing. I keep on returning to vinyl and scrounged mp3s as the sound quality on the studio recordings made them almost unlistenable (unless my copy alone was freakishly flawed???).
Which reminds me, did the Laughing Clowns comp ever come out?
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 06:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)
Each shivered in London squats, toasting a rat over an open fire. Probably.
― thee music mole, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― debden, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― F.R. Leavis, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― haitch (haitch), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― mentalist (mentalist), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― thee music mole, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― haitch (haitch), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― hull hole (hull hole), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― hull hole (hull hole), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)
hmm. the bites are excellent. from there i draw a bit of a blank.
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― mentalist (mentalist), Thursday, 10 February 2005 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Soukesian (Soukesian), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)
― spectra (spectra), Saturday, 10 June 2006 08:13 (nineteen years ago)
― guns to deal with vodka (haitch), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)
From a global perspective it was INXS, and maybe Midnight Oil, whose lucky numbers came up in the back half of the '80s. The Triffids made do with critical acclaim and good company. In his book Stranded: The Secret History of Australian Independent Music 1977-1991, rock journalist Clinton Walker shines a heroic light on these misfits that glows ever more brightly - certainly compared to the squandered radiance of INXS.
"The Triffids joined Nick Cave, the Go-Betweens, the Moodists (Dave Graney's band) and (Kim Salmon's) Scientists in exile in Europe," Walker asserts. Along with the Saints, Radio Birdman, Laughing Clowns and some others, "some of Australia's most vital talent had been run out of the country".
Hence his book's central drama, in which noble indie refugees flee the totalitarianism of Aussie pub rock to vouchsafe the "alternative" sensibility that would ultimately return victorious as the Big Day Out.
To illustrate why the Triffids left Australia, Graham Lee opens the Born Sandy Devotional CD book to a photo of a Queensland pub's events board: "Friday: stubbies welcome nite. Saturday: Triffids with Phil Emmanuel's Rockola. Sunday: wet T-shirt competition."
Dave Graney also recalls the '80s indie exodus in terms of cultural conflict. "These inner-city bands didn't want to engage in pub rock. They couldn't. Famously, the Scientists opened for the Angels at Parramatta Leagues Club (in 1983) and they were bottled off stage.
"But there were inner-city scenes in each city that were entranced by import records and import magazines. That's how groups like the Triffids could plug into that British scene, 'cause they were schooled in it. They knew the story and the dialogue."
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 15 June 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)
Moodists: absolute classic thunderous gloom. Loved them at the time, and the vinyl holds up well. (No CD reissues yet?)
I thought 2 Fisted Art was out at the time that was asked -2005. Think it's the only cd of their stuff. I asked Mick Turner about possibilities of reissues when Dirty 3 played dublin a few years earlier and he seemed tonot be into the idea. I think my vinyl had already been nicked at that point, at least what i had in Dublin. Think I have Engine Shudder now having recently brought it back from LOndon.Moodists have since done at least one reunion tour haven't they? & Chris Walsh's punk era band the Negatives have had a compi released, that Ugly Things reviewed.Somebody just upped a '86 German date to Dime earlier today too. Possibly too late since it'll lack the Walsh rumble. I like them best with Mick Turner anyway, his avant near-metal guitar scrawl really adds to Thirsty's Calling
― Stevolende, Saturday, 12 March 2011 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
Rumors have circulated for years about McLennan's possible experimenting with heroin. I can't believe it either: such a nice boy; you want to bring him home to mother.
I spent a long night talking to him around 1994 about which of his songs referenced heroin, and he didn't dispute any of it . . . and even mentioned one or two others! You can be a sweet and kind guy (which Grant certainly was) and still use.
― crustaceanrebel, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:35 (fourteen years ago)