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― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

586 for me!

Plum Drank's bringing up the rear!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

my favorite part of p&j season. thank you, glenn. and congrats to ethan for the 0.0.

― dan (dan), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

2004: 371 37.7 Joseph McCombs

2003: 321 41.7 Joseph McCombs

Something to be said for consistency, I suppose.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm 692/9.4.

― stockholm cindy's secret childhood (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I'm amused. My ballot had six other records nobody else voted for, and yet I'm bordering on the half-way point. (791 voters divided by 2 = 395.5 -- I'm at 395.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

SEVEN FIFTY-EIGHT OUT OF SEVEN NINETY-ONE

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

588 19.7

I can live with that!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Dawn Eden's lists because every year it's sunshine pop reissues and NOTHING ELSE

― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to say I'm genuinely amazed no-one else voted for "I'm Good" or Drive-By. I figured they'd get one or two, at least. (I was even amazed there was not a single second vote for Merzbow's Amlux back in '02.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, fucking hell...this just tabulates album picks! Still!

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

My ballot had six other records nobody else voted for, and yet I'm bordering on the half-way point. (791 voters divided by 2 = 395.5 -- I'm at 395.)

Voting for Kanye'll do that to you. I had five records no one else voted for, and I'm at 567/21.6 thanks to Van Lear Rose.

Congrats to all who were totally obscure! And thanks Glenn!

― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

666! Holla!

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm #485! More obscure than last year! Yay!

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i could be in the 700s if it wasn't for my INDIE RAWK picks!

― stockholm cindy's secret childhood (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Dawn Eden's lists because every year it's sunshine pop reissues and NOTHING ELSE

except for the, um, totally new pop cd's that constitute most of her list. which includes the new zombies record. and if the zombies are "sunshine" pop or sunshine anything, than so is, y'know, rob zombie.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm at 138 ... good, cuz I was getting tired of hovering around the top 10 ... which, btw, I'm never sure how that happens.

― Chris O., Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

#304 -- right under Simon Reynolds and Andy "Emo" Greenwald!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

534 25.6 Anthony Miccio
535 25.4 Rico "Superbizzee" Washington
536 25.3 Maura Johnston

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

is 427 THE matthew wilder???!!!!

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

anthony i kiss you! although that rico dude is in the way

― maura (maura), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Based on that ballot, I'm going to have to say yes. (xpost)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Dropped over 100 places and over 10 points. If I keep up this rate, I'll only be voting for bootlegs and imports in 2 years, and then nothin' but Shouting at Birds right around when that hits big. Awesome.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Josh Clover listed a mix made by my poetry professor from college, I wonder if it's any good.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Nate beat Nabisco by a nose. A nostril really.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

If I had done a ballot, I would have been #200.

― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I clicked at the one at the bottom and here she (he?) listed my favorite salsa album/maybe favorite album of the year as #1!

― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone know who Ethan P. is writing for these days? Good to know he's still on his own path.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

GEL AND WEAVE, BAYBEE

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it possible that "Dave Huck" is actually Dave Hucker?

― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

congrats to ethan for the 0.0.

That is awesome, and I liked his list. Go Ethan, wherever you are.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

*checks Ethan's album list* Eightball, Silkk and Ja Rule I know (wait, I thought everyone hated Ja Rule! Oh wait Tim likes him.) Who are the rest?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

A couple other things I was curious enough about to try.

If, for whatever reason, you count only the ballots of voters who picked at least one album that nobody else picked, not a lot changes. The top 4 are the same. The Streets move up from 7 to 5, TV on the Radio from 12 to 6, and Modest Mouse from 8 to 7. Green Day drop from 5 to 8, U2 from 8 to 9, Arcade Fire from 6 to 10, and Danger Mouse drops out of the top 10.

If you count only the ballots of voters with poll seniority, which I arbitrarily defined as having a voter ID less than 2000, you get the same top 3, but a little more change below. Green Day moves up from 5 to 4, U2 from 8 to 5, Franz Ferdinand down from 4 to 6, Danger Mouse up from 10 to 7, Wilco up from 13 to 8, the Streets down from 7 to 9, and the Drive-By Truckers up from 16 to 10. Arcade Fire drop from 6 to 15. That all seems fairly unsurprising, I think.

If you take Kayne West's margin of victory as a benchmark for consensus, and count only the voters who voted for The College Dropout, the top 11 merely gets reshuffled: Loretta up from 3 to 2, FF from 4 to 3, Streets from 7 to 4, SMiLE down from 2 to 5, AF still at 6, Danger Mouse up from 10-7, Green Day down from 5 to 8, MM still at 9, Madvillain up from 11 to 10 and U2 down to 11.

And lastly, selfishly, if I take only the 57 voters who voted for Bjork, who got my #1 vote, the top 10 becomes:

1. Bjork
2. Kayne West
3. Brian Wilson
4. Franz Ferdinand
5. Loretta Lynn
6. Nellie McKay (up from 14)
7. TV on the Radio (up from 12)
8. Animal Collective (up from 21)
9. PJ Harvey (up from 33)
10. Green Day

― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Hooray! I'm still don't have anything in that top ten!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I was talking to Ethan about his ballot last week, he said that he was bitter after going populist last year (In Da Club, Get Low, etc) and still being pissed at the result, so he decided to say fuck it and just keep it real this year. or something like that.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Word on the street is that ethan has "gone grime".

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

adam, he's back in the U.S. now, no talking shit

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

haha! you got me.

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking of which, looks like Reynolds wussed out of an all-grime singles list by throwing some DFA and Usher in there. Shame!

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's an interesting stat ... Because I'm nuts, I'm tallying up the female critics' votes. I'm about a quarter of the way through, and I've started using Glenn's table, which means the results so far are skewed toward critics who went with consensus choices. So unsurprisingly, most of the results don't vary much from the overall poll, EXCEPT Brian Wilson is hardly anywhere to be found. Seriously: of the 25 women who voted closest to the consensus, ONLY THREE voted for Smile. Wow.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Man! I feel like a woman *trumpets*

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a continuation of something on the anticipation thread, but that one's obviously pretty dead:

Someone said on the anticipation thread that Kanye won by being a lot of people's #8, and backed it up, at least somewhat IIRC, by posting the average points The College Dropout got per voter who named it.

I gave all 10 of my albums 10 points each (as I did last year, which was my first ballot). This morning I was thinking, "Gee, what a logjam at the bottom. If I'd given the albums I was fairly sure no one else would vote for even one or two more points, they'd have jumped hundreds of places." At first I thought that would mean taking points away from other relatively obscure things, but then I realized that if I'd only given, say, Van Lear Rose 5 points, I could have given my unique votes an extra point apiece.

So maybe some people who downlisted College Dropout did so because they knew it was going to place highly anyway and wanted to give a few extra points to something obscure?

I have no idea whether anyone thinks this cunningly about it, or even cares that much about it. I don't even think I care that much about it. I also don't know how to prove this (and God knows Glenn's done enough), or even what it would prove. But there it is.

On the other hand, we all seem so proud of how low we scored on Glenn's stats (I know I am) ...

I got an idea! I'll get back to work now!

― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Anthony there are SO not any trumpets in that song

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

yes but I was trumpeting

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

On gelandweave, ethan's number 2 was trick daddy. I wonder why he decided not to vote for it. (it was my non-pazz and jop voting ass number one)

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

he didn't vote for any albums at all, right?

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

And to Ned - I didn't hear the ja rule album but the "New York" single was pretty highly rated.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

xp yes he did: http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/pazznjop/04/critic.php?criticid=4741

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

holy shit, I don't know what I was looking at before. he's kind of absent-minded that way, you know

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

like I said upthread, he decided not to try and vote 'strategically' for things he thought would get a lot of votes and just went as obscure as possible. probably figured Trick Daddy would get plenty of votes on its own (it didn't, it's at #249) that he'd make a better statement with something else in its place.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipping 16 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Well, I could've gotten all 10 if I focused a bit harder--five of mine were in the top 5 and the others placed between 11-20. I hope I haven't done anything too scandalous, but the music editor certainly figured it out. I mean, I don't have *negative* feelings toward anything I voted for.

― marc weisblott (weisblogg), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

... whoops, I meant five of mine were consistent with the top 10, the other five placed btwn 11-20.

― marc weisblott (weisblogg), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

what thing isn't so good, djdee?

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Now That's What I Call Downloading! 7

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

what thing isn't so good, djdee?

I'm not really a fan of the diplo/mia mixtape. I do like the Clipse track though.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't admitting that grounds for being killed by ILM? (I haven't heard it, FWIW.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, right. agreed. (x-post) (Ned is also right, I'm afraid)

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd rather listen to a diplo mix or arular seperate, but together? Meh.

(ducks)

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Only halfway through the women-only tally, but I've been slacking off at work way too much, so I hafta stop for now. (SMiLE is making a comeback, but so far it's only #8.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm curious: What would the results be if you gave one point to every number one choice and ignored everything else?

― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Details of my own dubious tastes aside, mostly fueled by my habit of liking too many otherwise obscure songs from the Radio & Records AAA chart, I thought Sonic Youth's tribute to Bob Welch was a goodie--kinda surprised it got no other votes, even though five other SY "singles" that I don't remember hearing were cited ... (And given how the album cracked the top 40, perhaps by default, I'd be curious to see calculations of how 20 yrs of SY have fared on P&J ...)

― marc weisblott (weisblogg), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

[Duh, I did it myself ...]

2004
37
Sonic Youth
Sonic Nurse
DGC
349(40)

2002
Albums
20
Sonic Youth
Murray Street
DGC
487(48)

2000
Albums
103
Sonic Youth
NYC Ghosts & Flowers
Interscope
96(11)

2000
Albums
1421
Sonic Youth
Goodbye 20th Century
SYR / Smells Like
5(1)

1999
Albums
326
Sonic Youth
Goodbye 20th Century
SYR / Smells Like
23(2)

1998
Albums
41
Sonic Youth
A Thousand Leaves
DGC
185(15)

1997
Albums
624
Sonic Youth
SYR 1
SYR / Smells Like
10(1)

1995
Albums
18
Sonic Youth
Washing Machine
DGC
204

1992
Albums
8
Sonic Youth
Dirty
DGC
439

1990
Albums
4
Sonic Youth
Goo
DGC
659

1988
Albums
2
Sonic Youth
Daydream Nation
Blast First / Enigma
716

1987
Albums
12
Sonic Youth
Sister
SST
313

1986
Albums
29
Sonic Youth
Evol
SST
186

― marc weisblott (weisblogg), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

...anyway, my whole question (which i'll hereby ask glenn, if he's out there), and the reason i posted marc's singles list, is: how accurate are the critical alignment ratings if singles lists are not taken into account? though i'd assume that taking them into account would make the math much more complicated. (still, how hard would it be to do a critical alignment chart for singles alone? i assume all the people who file no singles ballot at all would just end up smack-dab in the middle. but that way, maybe somebody could average the singles and albums ratings into one that would more accurately reflect critics' overall deviation from the norm. or something.)

― chuck, Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

that was interesting, Marc. you forgot Experimental Jet Set, thoguh.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Experimental Jet Set was 43rd in '94

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Doesn't show up in the database far as I can tell ... I'm guessing, however, that R.E.M. (eight years in the top 10) qualify for biggest overall fall from grace, yet they still had 16 supporters incl. DeCurtis and Fricke ...

― marc weisblott (weisblogg), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i vote with my heart
http://www.rosa.org/v3/uploads/content_images/3/371_full.jpg

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still wishing and hoping SOMEBODY would tabulate the results from all the ballots from the openly glbt voters...somebody who actually knows a thing about who's what.

-- Michael Daddino (epicharmu...), February 9th, 2005.

Michael, if you want to tabulate, I'll send you my ballot ... but which artist(s) do you think would see a spike in ranking if filtered this way?

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 10 February 2005 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

743 3.5 Paul Cox

w00t! I'm an oddball.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael, if you want to tabulate, I'll send you my ballot ... but which artist(s) do you think would see a spike in ranking if filtered this way?

Um...the Homosexuals? :) Trick Daddy definitely would, as at least 3/8ths of the voters, myself included, are gay. Other than that, I really don't know. I could fall back on the stereotyped position of dancey-beaty stuff, Scissor Sisters and Morrissey, etc., but again, no clue, really.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

For whatever it's worth, Michael and Joseph, Bob Xgau has observed (judging from info included with their comments, apparently) that there was seemingly a spike in the number of gay voters this year, and the spike seemed to have helped the Scissor Sisters, if no one else. I could give you a list off the top of my head, but it would be ridiculously incomplete, and I couldn't swear for accuracy in all cases. Bob read the comments much closer than I did, and they're at his house (and obviously, the vast majority of voters include no personal info at all)...Still, I agree that the chart would be interesting, if somebody could pull one off. (Personally, I was very happy that Jim Fouratt voted for Big & Rich, but that's just me!)

Incidentally, there was one year in the mid '80s ('87 or '88 maybe?) that charts broken down by age, gender, and race were actually included in the P&J section. The poll was a lot smaller then, though; the more voters there are, the more time-consuming the two main lists become, which sadly leaves way less time to construct side lists.

― chuck, Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, Chuck, were gay voters more likely to list personal information - like sexual orientation? I'm gay and it didn't even occur to me.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no way of knowing that, Alfred, since I have no idea what the gender orientation of the people who *didn't* list personal info is (and, as I said, I didn't really keep track too closely otherwise.) (As a matter of fact, it should be noted that doing a ranking of black voters, or under-25 voters, or over-40 voters, or whatever would be pretty tough, too, since there are so many people we've never personally met voting these days. We could *guess*, if we had the time, but there's no way to make it anywhere near complete.) (I suppose somebody could do a ranking of albums voted for by people with Hispanic surnames, though, if somebody really wanted to...)

― chuck, Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, I guess it's possible you could do the same thing with Asian surnames, maybe....But the question I really wish we would have asked this year (and maybe we will next year) is what *religion* (if any) people associate themselves with. Like, were theists more likely to vote for Kanye or Big & Rich than atheists or agnostics? (I'm the latter, but I'm also an over-40 white hetero who voted for Trick Daddy, so what do I know?) And who took the Jewish vote this year??

― chuck, Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Or if white over-40 heterosexual "Rolling Stone" critics were more likely to vote for Greatest Bands on Earth R.E.M. and U2.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't do the singles because the only way they would seem meaningful to me is if the votes were consolidated by artist, rather than by song, and the format of the results pages makes this much more annoying for me to extract with my data-collecting scripts than the album votes.

But Chuck, if you want to slip me an actual data file, drop me an email, and I'll be happy to run the raw singles numbers, the singles numbers my way, and a combined measure of complete ballots...

― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

awwwwww....like 2 peas in the same weird pod:

688 10.4 Chuck Eddy
689 10.3 Scott Seward

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

scott, you're only three places up from me!

― stockholm cindy's secret childhood (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

So the higher you score the less eclectic your singles choices?

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I see, Jody! and we both voted for da blueberry boat.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

WOAH! WTF! I just noticed that David Fricke didn't put To Tha 5 Boroughs in his top 10! Wow, how many 5 star albums a year does he hear?!

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"Or if white over-40 heterosexual "Rolling Stone" critics were more likely to vote for Greatest Bands on Earth R.E.M. and U2."

How about a list of white under-40 heterosexual critics who would have voted for Automatic for the People if this were 1992 but for some reason can't see that Around the Sun is just as good?

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

no it's not.

― stockholm cindy's secret childhood (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

sure it is.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i listened to REM the other day! First time in years! I like the drumsound on "Begin The Begin". Reminds me of a johnny cougar record.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

funny you should say that because that's the one they recorded with don gehman.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

...who was cougar's producer

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

nice loud drums. i like that. i saw them on that tour. 10,000maniax open up. i think. i saw them after document too and the feelies opened up. i love the feelies. i saw them 5 times. once opening for lou reed. (they were better than lou.)

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

they shoulda had that guy do all their records.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

for that patented bloody scarecrow sound.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 10 February 2005 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

that record does sound really good. i'm partial to the mitch easter/don dixon records, though, too. the one they did with joe boyd was much worse sounding!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 10 February 2005 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Which record sounds good: Scarecrow or Life's Rich Pageant? (I love the latter and suspect I'd love the former).

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 10 February 2005 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was talking about Life's Rich Pageant.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 10 February 2005 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"Which record sounds good: Scarecrow or Life's Rich Pageant?"

BOTH!

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 10 February 2005 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

AT THE SAME TIME! LIKE ZAIREEKA!

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 10 February 2005 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

WOAH! WTF! I just noticed that David Fricke didn't put To Tha 5 Boroughs in his top 10! Wow, how many 5 star albums a year does he hear?!

I was right when I reasoned his 5-stars were more or less the equivalent of giving the Palme d'Or to Michael Moore.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(If I do say so myself.)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

469 (me) 470 (douglas wolk) and 471 (irin carmon) is a very odd post-02138 bloc

― Nick Sylvester, Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

this is kinda cool, namewise:

15 95.7 Nate Chinen
16 94.7 Neva Chonin

― chuck, Thursday, 10 February 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Reissued with bonus tracks.

― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 11 February 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

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