Schooly D - was he really the first gangsta rapper?

a joke, i presume?

Willis and Maiellaro's freewheeling attitudes, cultivated by a management team that gives them a lot of room to run, probably help feed the show's streetwise veneer. But despite a customized hip-hop opening sequence and an episode featuring bovine rap impresario Sir Loin, the "Aqua Teen Hunger Force"/hip-hop links are fairly tenuous.

"I think we decided that we wanted to have an opening that would kick ass and be kind of scary. So we managed to get a hold of Schooly D, and he was up for doing the song, and that was really cool," says Maiellaro.

"[But] neither one of us are really hip-hop fans — not that we don't like it, it's just not what we happen to listen to. It's funny — hip-hop is almost like this thin, fake-wood veneer that we put over the show to make it appear that we're hipper than we actually are. I mean, we wanted that opening to just scare the hell out of people. I think we had talked about making Schooly the Waylon Jennings to our 'Dukes of Hazzard,' and that's drifted in and out."

...too bad ATHF isn't funny...
(besides the mooninites episodes)

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Not to say that Smoke Some Kill isn't one of the illest hip-hop records of the era and, sadly, one of the most overlooked. I think I might do a retrospective of it here in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for this question.

Also, what year did "Riker's Island" by Kool G Rap and DJ Polo get released? Or "The Batterram" by Toddy Tee...those were early gangtsa landmarks as well....(sorry AMG usually crashes me now so I can't look stuff up very well)

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Nope...Riker's was on that album but it was recorded way before (just listen to the production and rhymes compared to the rest of the album....plus I don't think Wanted Dead or Alive was 92...) here's an interview with G Rap where he talks about recording it BEFORE Road to the Riches, his first big hit off the first album:

How do you think you have influenced hip hop in your career?
It's not that I even think: I know I influenced hip hop to the greatest capacity because what street niggas were there before G Rap? None. Not on the east coast. It might have been a nigga named Ice T 3,000 miles away that New York wasn't hearing about and he wasn't really that graphic. I didn't hear any "Riker's Island" songs at that time, but I give it to Ice T: he was doing some gangster shit. He was the closest to that level after that N.W.A.
But as far as the east coast I remember Milk is chillin', Giz is chillin', Dana Dane, and Pee Wee Herman. I don't remember niggas talking no street shit. The only nigga that came close to being blatant street before me was Melle Mel when he did "The Message". Because that was kinda hardcore right there. But he didn't run with that style.
When I caught it, I ran with it. Right after "Riker's Island" I did "Road To The Riches." The next album I did "Streets Of New York." What's more blatant than that? And to this day street rap is what rules. Everyone says you gotta make commercial songs, [but] those songs are street commercial songs. All 50's shit is some street shit. Jigga's shit was some street shit. Biggie's shit was some street shit. They just learned how to do it in a commercial manner. It's that particular style of rap that rules to this day and in my opinion it's always gonna rule.

i guess that was i meant in the first place. it's interisting if this is the case.

Though in a way it *wasn't* his whole persona, since a lot of his persona also consisted of making Brady Bunch jokes and hating rock and roll while loving rock and roll and avoiding getting shot by his mom...)

this sounds even more interesting. please tell me more about his mom!

According allmusic, "BDP's first independently released single was 1986's "Crack Attack", so they were right there in the era. It's kind of a toss-up, they were all blowing up right about the same time. I'll go with a tie for Schooly D, BDP, Kool G Rap & DJ Polo if that will suffice. They all came out hard.

I must know - who is he referring too here? "Giz"?

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this is actually a pretty dope album