DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE - F4cking GOA Trance

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Ugh, this shit sounds like a soundtrack to a bad bad trip, but it isn't even crazy enough to make get creepy crawly bugs on my skin. The mood of it is just so.... lame!!!

― he does guitar with his mouth lmao mint (ex machina), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like it either but it did birth Psy-Trance which is sometimes quite good!

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

check out AOA's Domegapeace

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

This isn't what "Poing" is, is it?

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

none of it was actually made in Goa either

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Goa Trance is sort of like Ibiza Trance but not (quite) as cheesy and with more 303s.

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

It makes me wanna drown babies. Even faggy 90s trance loved by clubbin' hoochies is better!

― he does guitar with his mouth lmao mint (ex machina), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

flying rhino 0wnz j00

― rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

there must be some good stuff, right? is there anything really psychedelic that is called goa trance? Or is the goa stuff kinda the phish of the trance/dance world?

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i think there was a thread on this kinda stuff not that long ago.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

it's very popular with the post-rave (mid-south/mid-west version) "kids" here (arkansas). that and some ridiculously unsexy version of drum-n-bass. seriously unfunky breaks. meth is a real problem in these parts. i'm certain the two are related.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Or is the goa stuff kinda the phish of the trance/dance world?

No, that would be Planet Dog (with bands like Children of the Bong).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

If "Mahadeva" by Astral Projection counts as Goa Trance, then I'll defend that. Always makes me think of cackling Russian-Jewish babooshkas in headscarves whirling themselves round in a circle.

It's a token favourite, though. Any more than 10 minutes of the stuff, and my brain turns to mush. It's all squibbly-wibbly-wibbly on the top and oompoom-oompoom-oompoom on the bottom, and it NEVER CHANGES...

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

oh wait, that was a psytrance thread:

Can we talk about Psytrance? Like, as a movement?

i think i need to hear some of that stuff.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Astral Projection is Psy-Trance really.

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Mmm, I did wonder...

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't really know the difference between Goa and Psy tho i would guess the former features more vocal hooks?

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Goa came first basically, although I think Psy has a bit more energy and often features heavily on the melodies. Infected Mushroom from Israel has some pretty stellar moments as far as this is concerned.

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it easy to distinguish the subtleties of trance? New Years Eve I went to an event with Nu-NRG Trance, Psy, and Goa rooms - and I couldn't easily tell which was which for a while...

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The Misted Muppet album was one of last years highlights for me, so it's not that difficult to defend the stuff I guess. But yeah, it's easy to dislike - it all sounds the same, it is very unstructured and the incessant twirly whirly melodies will drive most people mad mad mad, and the fanbase is annoyingly hippy/underground in the worst way possible. But I still go through periods where I listen to the stuff 24/7, and then don't touch any psy for months.

There's lots of good stuff though, the dub side of psy/goa can be fantastic and if you're more into the techno side of things you can't go wrong with Midi Miliz/The Delta/Spirallianz and the rest of the German Ruhr-area branch which refrain from the kaleidoscopic melodies thing.

― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 14 February 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Dunno how you can worship at the feet of Vision Creation New Sun and not be open to hearing Trance. Jon, you do realize Eye Yamatsuka has been playing Psy- influence DJ sets at trance parties in Tokyo since the mid-nineties?

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, I *like* some trance but all the GOA trance I have heard has left me so fucking cold.

Actually, I like some Juno Reactor "if that counts" -- but I downloaded a ton of GOA comps and they were AWFUL.

Anyway, Boredoms sideproject stuff that rubs up other genres doesn't suffer from the aestheticly limited vision of the genres.

― he does guitar with his mouth lmao mint (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 06:35 (twenty-one years ago)

When I say trance, i mean psytrance or Goa or whatever. Y'now, hippies in the forest stuff. Doofs. Juno Reactor is part of this.

This stuff is not respected much on ilm or in the dance music press and that's fine. This vitroil it is only matched by the vitriol of psytrance hippies when they talk about house.

But anyway, if you go to a good party in the mountains and with an E and you have set and setting it can go right off.

Seventy percent of this stuff is sold in Japan, FWIW.

I can't recommend anything specific because I'm not that into it, but railing against it without ever having gone to a party is silly.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 06:51 (twenty-one years ago)

How could I like world music?!?!? I've never been to $EXOTICPLAACE

― he does guitar with his mouth lmao mint (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, true, but whoever said music must transcend its time and place to be any good? That sounds like something journalists would dream up to justify bedroom music. Not everything is built for home listening.

It's like improv, you know? If you're not actually there, somehow the recorded document doesn't cut it.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)

BTW I wish someone would recommend some recent psy-trance that is kinda tracky and objectively. I refuse to believe it is all rubbish. After all, it's just a rhythm.

I once did try to wade through and find the best of the best but all I came up with was progressive stuff like Son Kite.

Any ideas?

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)

objectively good, that is.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)

This stuff is not respected much on ilm or in the dance music press and that's fine. This vitroil it is only matched by the vitriol of psytrance hippies when they talk about house.

OTM. I really like unfashionable dance music.

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

like polka?

― ☪, Thursday, 12 July 2007 12:56 (eighteen years ago)

Any ""variety"" of this stuff is 100% indefensible tripe ""live"" (on DAT) or in recorded form. Not even worth the contrarian posturing really. UGH!

― blunt, Thursday, 12 July 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

GOA WAY

― blunt, Thursday, 12 July 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Hehe, just yesterday I got in the mail this little thing. Copies of the original 1997 pressing would regularly go up to several hundred euros on eBay. Probably the most sought after goa album ever (together with Pleiadians' IFO and Accidental Occidentalism, maybe).

Of the modern psy strains I can't get into full-on or darkpsy, but some of the progressive and psybient releases I like. The latest Human Blue album is brilliant.

I keep collecting the classic goa material from the 94-99 period (Flying Rhino, Blue Room, Matsuri, Spirit Zone, TIP...), I just never tire of the stuff.

― no-nonsense, Thursday, 12 July 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

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New releases are planned but the biggest news is that the whole back catalog of Flying Rhino music will be available as MP3s for free download including "Rock Bitch Mafia", "Awakening" and "Blue Planet Corporation".

A new website is up at http://www.flyingrhino.co.uk/. The audio files are currently held offline while permissions from the producers are obtained for every track.

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― no-nonsense, Sunday, 4 November 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

streetteamers like you should be held offline while permissions from the moderators are obtained for a swift ban.

― blunt, Sunday, 4 November 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

Banhammered.

― Matt DC, Sunday, 4 November 2007 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

ummm... he's not a spammer, he's contributed a very nice mix on the ilm mix competition.

― the next grozart, Sunday, 4 November 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

he also started several threads on industrial-type stuff a while back. unban plz!

― ☪, Sunday, 4 November 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

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