1. Okay, that's a devastatingly dead-on term for that sound. Is it a real term, or is someone on here just brilliant?
2. Any reccomendations for more, aside from JLC?
― James.Cobo (jamescobo), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)
I can't really recommend any since it was so thoroughly despised at the time that I never bothered with it.
― DougD, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)
yeah, it pre-dates JLC by a considerable degree. Was basically a catch-all for popular, happy, euphoric house, of the kind that women liked. Often characterised by drum rolls, big piano riffs and "take me higher" type vocals.
A lot of overlap with "progressive house" and "hard house" but from 94-96 it was definitely a very distinctive sound.
I think some choice bits of handbag would be:
Gat Decor - "Passion"Tony Di Bart - "The real thing"Felix - "Don't you want me"Kool World - "In-vader" (Tall Paul mix)Nightcrawlers - "Push the feeling on" (MK mix)Umboza - "Cry India"Junior Vasquez - "Get your hands off my man" (Nush mix)Direckt - "Two fatt guitars"
It was always such gleefully unashamed party music. I'm getting very nostalgic about it. Probably due a retrospective mix of some sort...
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)
I reckon Strike's "U Sure Do" is handbag house.
Wasn't there a British novelty duo that did a song called "Dance, Dance, Dance Around Your Handbag" that was about Essex Shirlies and Sheilas putting their handbags down on the dancefloor and dancing about and that's the origin of the phrase?
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)
that's IHH. (Intelligent Handbag House) shuh!
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)
"U Sure do" is definitely handbag. And yeah, I think it's a right shame that handbag turned into two things - trance and filterdisco, neither of which are as joyous as the root genre. The trouble is that the Jeremy Healy/Graham Gold et al dominance of mid-90s clubland was a dire development, but at the same time a lot of the music was really great.
More handbag:
Billie Ray Martin - "Your loving arms" (but NOT the vasquez mix)Berri - "Sunshine after the rain"Farley and Heller - "Ultraflava" (this has aged REALLY BADLY)Sharp tools vol. 2Gusto - "Disco's revenge"
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)
Livin' Joy - "Dreamer"
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)
It was basically a perjorative description coined by detroit techno purists and people who liked Sasha to describe the kind of clubs where girls wore fluffy bra's and carried handbags. The carrying of handbags necessitated putting them in a pile on the floor and dancing round them. Hence "handbag house".
This was considered a bad thing because you were supposed to wear shitty combats and dance in a field, not wear glam stuff and dance in a club.
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)
actually, though, those kind of shouts would fit in well because loads of handbag tunes featured the word "house" - remember that "your house is my house is your house is my house is YOUR HOUSE IS MINE" tune?
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)
oh my god yes
― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:17 (twenty years ago)
Here we lie all alone in my dreamin' Your eyes move my soul it's unbelievin' Now you see the me, get my feelin' How'm I feelin
I feel your hands, your lips the heat of your body Whisper you love me, you say you love me Please don't dumb it down and never leave me I'm a dreamer
I feel your hands, your lips the heat of your body Whisper you love me, you say you love me Please don't dumb it down and never leave me I'm a dreamer Am I dreamer Am I dreamer
Love and life and laughter Is all I believe My Saviour is pure now Because my lonely heart would bleed I never learned how to hold love And stay strong to love Now I close my eyes now And I'm dreamin' right where I belong
Am I dreamer Am I dreamer Am I dreamer Am I dreamer
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:18 (twenty years ago)
You're right, but I doubt many of these were meant to sound like Freddy Kruegger uttering them... Excessive Force was a KMFDM/My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult side project, you see.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)
― everything, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)
I suggest "Darkbag" or "Hardbag" for this, probably thriving genre
― everything, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)
oh my god, no!
jacob's list above has a few tunes i wouldn't quite consider handbag, felix's tune is more of a northern rave track while i always felt direckt & gat decor were more progressive house circa '93 (see: leftfield). handbag to me is more of a '95/'96 term and encapsulates the pop end of the spectrum, yer livin' joys, yer nightcrawlers, yer jon pleased wimmins. not much room for something as ravey as 'don't you want me'. although a swift google search reveals a handbag comp with carl craig's 'the climax' on it so whaddo i know?
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)
I picked out those tracks because to me they encapsulate what was good about handbag, rather than what was typical...
And actually, these places frequently were quite rave-y - it was only with the ascendence of "funky house" and filterdisco that you stopped getting ravey noises in handbag type clubs - Livin Joy and Gems for Gem et al are perfect examples of this...
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)
>I picked out those tracks because to me they encapsulate what was good about handbag, rather than what was typical...
for sure, those are the tunes i would dance to! livin' joy would be my cue for another drink.
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)
U Girls - Nush ("u girls look so sexy, wish you were here with me...")Girls & Boys - Hed Boys ("the girls! and boys! are dancing on the floor!") - this also featured a handbag on the cover of the single.Fee Fi Fo Fum & Wham Bam - Candy GirlsLife's A Bitch (Can't Get A Man, Can't Get A Job) - Sister BlissSon Of A Gun - JXRockin' For Myself - Motiv8I've Never Felt This Way - Hi-LuxHold That Sucker Down - O.T.Quartet
I'd put some clear distance between Hardbag and Tony De Vit style nu-nrg (although TdV's "Burning Up" would fit within the genre, as would his mix of 99th Floor Elevator's "Hooked"). Hardbag was more yer Tall Paul Newmans and yer Seb Fontaines, mixing vocal hooks with tougher beats, without ever going full-on clattering-dustbin-lid mental.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)
I think the dance mixes of CeCe Peniston's "Finally" would count, too.
Weren't M People the commercial faces of handbag? They had some good singles, the ones where Heather Small was drowned out by the backing singers especially.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)
Red 5 - I Love You StopThe Original - I Love You BabyDeepzone - It's Gonna Be AllrightKellee - My LoveFuria - Boy PanGala - Freed From DesireKadoc - The NighttrainPorn Kings - Up To No GoodGrooveyard - Mary Go WildBrainbug - NightmareTom Wilson - TechnocatRuffneck ft Yavahn - Everybody Be SomebodyMighty Dub Katz - Magic Carpet RideDJ Jean & Peran - I Give My LifeKlubbheads - KlubbhoppingTori Amos - Professional Widow (Armand Van Helden Remix)The Course - Ready Or NotFull Intention - Uptown DowntownDe'lacy - Hideaway (Deep Dish Remix)Kristine W - Feel What You WantFrank 'O Moiraghi - Show Me (Spacer)
― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)
― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)
Rough Guide To Handbag House
Kim Syms 'Too Blind To See It'Rhythm On The Loose 'Break Of Dawn ('95 mix)'Helicopter 'On Ya Way'DSK 'What Would We Do?'Happy Clappers 'I Believe'Sister Bliss 'Can't Get A Man Can't Get A Job (Life's A Bitch)'Pizzaman 'Trippin' On Sunshine'Heller & Farley Project 'Ultra Flava'Donna Giles 'And I Am Telling You'2 Men Will Move You 'The Goodbye Thing'JX 'Son Of A Gun'Bobby Brown 'Two Can Play That Game (K-Klass '95 mix)'Junior Vasquez 'Get Your Hands Off My Man'Gusto 'Disco's Revenge'Lisa Marie Experience 'Do That To Me'Stretch n' Vern 'I'm Alive'Outrage 'Tall And Handsome'
as originally posted here
― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)
OTM. except I've got a few of them on Now! tapes.
― cis (cis), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)
― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)
there was a good 2-cd mixset put out by Vague (club) when they were closing their doors, i think mixed by TWA, and really terrific. Goes from prog house (circa 95-96) to handbag to hardbag to nu-nrg and back.if i can dig up the tracklist i'll post it
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)
Yes!
That's the thing about this kind of music - I never bought it at the time because it was so omnipresent that I felt I didn't need to, and now it's gone and is part of history (ten years old!) These are totally the kind of records that were bought en masse by budding djs in small towns and then given to charity shops when the purchasers got married. Somebody should make a trip to Nottingham and come back with a truckload...
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)
Novy vs Eniac - Superstar ("come on don't hesitate, hesitate, and show me your intentions")
― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
basically people are now recycling a lot of stuff from mid-late 90s dance hits as it seems the limit has been reached for stuff before that - i heard a Mood II Swing track last year that lazily just stuck a vocal over a re-filtered loop of 'Mothership Reconnection'. will it all just catch up with itself?
― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)
Oy! Hands off my CD singles collection!
I'd also put Bizarre Inc feat Angie Brown "I'm Gonna Get You" as an early handbag track - same (1992) vintage as the original release of M People "How Can I Love You More".
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)
― Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
― Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)
da-da-da-da-da-da-da! da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da!
I bought that on cassette single!
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)
― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)
I mainly associate this stuff with the kind of events (wedding receptions, friends' sisters' 21st birthday parties in shit pubs) where the DJ would have been as likely to play Roxette or Ace of Base. While I ordinarily would have run a mile from house of the handbag variety, it was often the best party music for a mixed, drunken crowd. At the very least, it was more danceable than most other mobile DJ fodder. I dunno if it's exactly ripe for critical reappraisal though. The gems to utter shite ratio falls too hard on the latter side.
― Graeme (Graeme), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
"Happy", Legacy Of Sound
"Happy isHappy isHap-Hap-py is what we areHappy is what we are when we're together"
I remember having a crush on Meja, the singer.
― Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
That would be Commander Tom "Attention". The original mix is completely boring (where did it go wrong, this guy once made "Are Am Eye?"), but the Steve Murano remix is fantastic in a Tomcraft-big-room-electro kind of way.
― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)
Diva house was added to RYM a week or so ago https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/diva-house/
And more intriguingly, hardbag was approved in the last day or two https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/hardbag/
Look at all those masterworks
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:07 (three years ago)
we mentioned the hard house revival a few weeks ago but I'm really happy to see some of this music turning up in sets and podcasts from "credible" names - I love how shamelessly joyful and ecstatic this can be
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:30 (three years ago)
Just found my fake track list from a couple years back for "The Best Hardbag Album in the World...Ever!". Released through Virgin/EMI in 1998, mixed by Richard Evans at Wise Buddah
CD11. Felix - Don't You Want Me2. Candy Girls - Fee Fi Fo Fum3. Hi-Lux - Feel It4. 99th Floor Elevators - Hooked (Tony De Vit Mix)5. Yosh Presents Lovedeejay Akemi - It's What's Upfront That Counts6. The Ethics - La Luna (To the Beat of the Drum)7. Amen! UK - Passion8. Kinky - Everybody9. Patrick Prins - French Connection10. Donna Summer - I Feel Love '95 (Rollo & Sister Bliss Mix)11. Li Kwan - I Need a Man12. Blu Petetr - Flagship13. Gems for Jem - Lifting Me Higher14. U.S.U.R.A. - Tear It Up15. Brain Bashers - I Am Ready16. E'Voke - Arms of Loren17. E-Motion - I Stand Alone18. Klubbheads - The Magnet19. Salvia - Fiesta Conga
CD21. JX - You Belong to Me2. Tony De Vit - Burning Up3. Hyper Logic - Only Me4. Sister Bliss - Cantgetaman, Cantgetajob (Life's a Bitch)5. Mrs Wood - Joanna6. Itty Bitty Boozy Woozy - Tempo Fiesta7. Mary Kiani - When I Call Your Name8. Movin Melodies - Don't Hold Back9. Hotbox - Too Spicy10. Rollo Goes Mystic - Love, Love, Love-Here I Come11. Antic - The Ultimate12. Natural Born Grooves - Forerunner13. Tocayo - Live in Peace14. S'Express - Theme from S'Express (The Return Trip)15. The Handbaggers - U Found Out16. Dana Dawson - Show Me (Motiv8 Darkroom Dub)17. Republica - Out of This World18. Groove Terminator - Losing My Mind19. Celvin Rotane - I Believe20. Dorothy - What's That Tune?
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:16 (one year ago)
That's hardbag not handbag
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:17 (one year ago)
looks amazing
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:49 (one year ago)
Was there ever an Intelligent Handbag, or an Ambient Handbag? Seems like those prefixes were glommed onto every other strand of dance music in that era.
― henry s, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 16:24 (one year ago)
JX - You Belong to Me big fan of this one.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 17:56 (one year ago)
Was there ever an Intelligent Handbag, or an Ambient Handbag?
Deep Handbag is big with the heads.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 18:46 (one year ago)
Bagstep
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:19 (one year ago)
Mrs Wood - Joanna
love this one a LOT
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 22:45 (one year ago)
https://www.corbinshaw.com/product-page/handbag-house-t-shirt
I bought this a few months ago and I am ALWAYS complimented by strangers whenever I wear it
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 22:47 (one year ago)
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 15:49 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
thank you. tempted to make it a cd-r reality at some point.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 17:29 (one year ago)