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Following on from the recent "What's the best..." questions: What's the best thing anyone's ever sampled, whether it's a particular break, a musical note, a vocal or anything else. (Obviously mention who sampled it and on what, too.) I won't limit it to any one genre; the only rule is that it has to be sampled from a secondary source rather than, say, the artist sampling themself playing the guitar and then manipulating the sample.

Greg, Tuesday, 6 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Right now I'm thinking of the example someone (Scott Woods?) used in Rockcritics.com, which was the sample of Marr's guitar riff in "How Soon Is Now?" for Soho's "Hippie Chick". What a stunning transformation that was.

Tim, Tuesday, 6 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll go with the Frogs sample on "Where It's At" by Beck. In the original, it was a clearly *crappy* drum break being referred to, where in the new song it's a better one...OR IS IT? ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The piano chords from the Jackson 5's "I Want You Back" on Kris Kross's "Jump". The wah-wah riff and spooky "yaaaah" vocals from the Temptations' "Psychedelic Shack" on Public Enemy's "Welcome To The Terrordome".

Patrick, Tuesday, 6 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

According to my earlier criteria, some of the best samples could be from sources that aren't readily identifiable, either because the sample is disguised or because the source itself is so obscure.

One known sample I really like is 'More, More, More' by Andrea True Connection which was recently used as the basis of 'You're Still My Sunshine' by Len. I remember dragging home a huge batch of records from Record & Tape Exchange around 1991 (one of the Notting Hill shops had a dusty basement crammed with 7" & 12" singles at 10p each). I hadn't previously heard 'More, More, More' but was amazed by the piano break on it and duly constructed a backing track with it (although I never did anything with it).

Following on from this, one excellent sample that I'm amazed *hasn't* yet been used (at least not to my knowledge) is the acoustic guitar intro to Alexander O'Neal's 'If You Were Here Tonight' (his early, 1985 hit - think I've got the title right). I looped this, again around 1991, but the resulting track fell by the wayside. I'm absolutely positive that someone could become very rich from using that sample.

David, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm going for two samples. Firstly, the Winstons' "Amen, Brother" break, which really does get me excited whenever I hear it, for whatever reason. Effectively the sound of hardcore. I once listened to a loop of the break alone for 11 minutes straight.

Secondly, the "Fressssshhhh!" sample (just that bit, but I suppose the whole vocal phrase is good), which is from "Change Le Beat" by Fab 5 Freddy. The line between a sample and a scratch is pretty narrow, I suppose, but that's my favourite scratch sample.

They're both really obvious choices but there's a reason they're so over-sampled.

Greg, Wednesday, 7 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What Greg said on the Amen-break. The mystery of that little piece of drumming...whenever it comes on, there's whiteout in the brain and you HAVE to move (in the end it was jungle's equivalent of 4/4 909 kick wasn't it?). With that: whatever source Joey Beltram dug up that metallic riff on 'Mentasm' from. There's a sound I could listen to for 11 minutes ;) wheeeeeeeeeyyouuuuuuunnnnngggwhhhhhhheeeeeeyyooooouuuugghh, etc.

Omar, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

>What Greg said on the Amen-break. The mystery of that little piece >of drumming...whenever it comes on, there's whiteout in the brain >and you HAVE to move (in the end it was jungle's equivalent of 4/4 >909 kick wasn't it?).

It has a crisp, almost savage quality that fits the ethos of that aggressive style of Jungle. There's nothing laid-back or mellow about it. But on top of that there's a sense of the loop reinforcing its power the more it was used (in the same way that records using the 'funky drummer' loop in the late 80's started as a trickle and then became a flood).

David, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"More More More" was the starting point for Saint Etienne's "Hug My Soul", wasn't it? (though I don't think it was actually sampled, more of a "based around" situation).

Robin Carmody, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"More More More" was the starting point for Saint Etienne's "Hug My Soul", wasn't it? (though I don't think it was actually sampled, more of a "based around" situation).

I don't know that St. Etienne track, but if it sounds similar to the Len track then I suppose it must have the same source. The Len backing track basically *is* the 'More, More, More' piano/drum break.

David, Sunday, 11 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

David,

"Hug My Soul" is on the singles collection Too Young To Die, which I'm sure you once told me was the only Saint Etienne album you had heard up to then.

It doesn't actually *sound* similar to the Len track; the resemblance to "More More More" is essentially in the vocal hook in the verse (the "oooh ... what are you thinking of ... you're thinking about my love") line. "Hug My Soul" sounds something like a combination of disco circa 1976 / 77, early 90s dance-pop, and testcard / programme music (the flute and orchestration).

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 11 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Robin,

Oh I see what you mean - the St. Etienne track adapted the main hook of 'More, More, More'. The Len track samples the strangely unrelated- sounding piano/drum break that comes out of the blue about halfway through 'More, More, More'.

David, Monday, 12 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Unrelated indeed ... which probably explains why I didn't actually recognise the source of Len's sample. Time for some Napstering in search of "More More More" itself, I think.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 12 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
the 6 minute version is amazing, did you d/l it robin?

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 15 September 2002 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
when i saw night ranger, they were awesome. they were as good, if not better than back in the day.

Bosse-De-Nage (Bosse-De-Nage), Saturday, 8 March 2003 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Masta Ace's "Music Man" guitar - where does that come from? My pal Nasa has that record - wanna download that song - anyone have the first Masta Ace album (Take A Look Around) handy?

i've also always liked Run DMC's use of Take Me To The Mardi Gras by Bob James - obvious, I know, but made me like the Bob James version of that song better than Paul Simon's

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 8 March 2003 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Yello's sampling of a snowball in "Drive/Driven" is quite classy.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 8 March 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

the Michael Jackson sample in Moby's "Permanent Green"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 8 March 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)


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