Freedy Johnston S/D, C/D?

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Can't believe there is no FJ thread here. Can You Fly?, This Perfect World, Never Home and Blue Days, Black Nights are all solid albums in my opinion. His last one, Right Between The Promises, kinda sucked though. Been 4 years since his last one and his cds are often found in the used cut out bins so I guess he is easily overlooked, unjustly in my humble opinion. What sayeth everyone?

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Saturday, 19 February 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

"Bad Reputation" is a lovely song, I'll say that.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 19 February 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

I like Can You Fly and This Perfect World....lost track of him after that....something about him made me like him more than the usual typical tedious (at least to me) singer songwriter schtick...has a unique singing voice....sometimes verges into a little too much AOR for me but overall he's cool.

Plus, one time at an outdoor show in Mpls, he beat up some frat guys that were heckling him!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 19 February 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

I've always like "Bad Reputation" but his stripped-down and slightly sped-up solo acoustic rendering on Austin City Limits was riveting. Been looking for a live version on p2p forever.

Aaron A., Saturday, 19 February 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't read too much into the cutout bins thing, he was on Elektra and they always overpress, especially for an artist like him.

I listen to Never Home most, it's got a nice mix of tempos. "Western Sky" is pretty lovely. He's great live, and has always been supercool to deal with personally when I've had the opportunity.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 20 February 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

I only know "Can You Fly," and man, I think that's one of the finest records of the '90s--maybe one of the finest ever. It's not even my usual cup o' tea. The song "Responsible" on "Can You" is a masterpiece, brings a tear to my eye for some reason. I have heard some isolated songs like "Bad Reputation" friends have put on mixes for me, and I haven't heard a bad one yet.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 20 February 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Agreed on Can You Fly - "Responsible" and "The Lucky One" especially.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Sunday, 20 February 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

yes, can you fly and this perfect world are excellent; I didn't care for the earlier album and the one after TPW didn't really do it for me so he dropped off my radar. It's funny how often Bad Reputation still pops up on movie soundtracks. TPW is a very underrated and unrecognized album though, it's so well sequenced and the songs paint some very vivid pictures.

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 20 February 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

Can You Fly was his finest album. How could it have been otherwise when he was backed by load of ringers -- Dave Schramm, Kevin Salem, Marshall Crenshaw, Bob Rupe and Chris Stamey! Not to diminish This Perfect World (which had his best song and most of the same players, plus Marc Ribot) but Can You Fly strikes me as more consitently solid -- "Lucky One", "In the New Sunshine", "Responsible", etc. etc. Maybe This Perfect World gets overlooked cuz "Bad Reputation" is the first song, which is almost impossible to top.

john'n'chicago, Sunday, 20 February 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

Christgau liked the latest FJ...has anyone heard it?

I dunno--I love "Bad Reputation" but "Responsible" is just so structurally canny, perfect song in my opinion. Plus, that album evokes a midwestern experience I know absolutely nothing about, makes me actually want to go there.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 21 February 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

I like the first three albums a lot, in more or less descending order. Haven't heard anything later, just because he seems like one of those guys that 3 albums is enough to have. Heckuva melodist, not a bad lyricist, nice singer.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 21 February 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

Christgau liked Right Between The Promises? Figures, worst FJ that I have heard.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...
I'm listening to "Bad Reputation" and it's all flooding back about how I used to adore him sooo tremendously right out of high school in about 1998. I love his voice -- I can't ever think of another singer's voice to compare it to.

Plus, one time at an outdoor show in Mpls, he beat up some frat guys that were heckling him!

This sounds tremendous! Tell me more!

Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

story here:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/00-07/13.shtml

(forgive me for the pfork)

jb, Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

This is better:

http://www.citypages.com/databank/21/1023/article8807.asp

Freedy Johnston gave as good as he got at Taste of Minnesota
by G.R. Anderson Jr.
July 12, 2000

The rock 'n' roll pantheon has its share of famous public meltdowns. The more flagrant episodes--from Jerry Lee Lewis lighting his piano on fire to Courtney Love inciting a crowd to strip her naked--become iconic abstractions, but still they highlight the tension inherent in the relationship between performer and audience. The less high-profile incidents, meanwhile, though they go mostly unnoticed, may actually be far more tangible and complex for crowd and musician alike. Passion becomes abandon, love turns to hatred. The performer/audience dynamic slips away. The show suddenly belongs to no one.

At a little after half past eight on June 30, with the sun fading over the first day of the 18th annual Taste of Minnesota festival, the humidity gave way to a slight breeze and Freedy Johnston, known for his genteel (if somewhat dark) songcraft and self-deprecating manner, took the Zone 105 stage to play. The crowd--folks in their 30s, mostly, some of them accompanied by their young children--had settled down in the grass in the relatively quiet southwestern corner of the capitol grounds.

Before the set was over, what had promised to be a laid-back family affair turned into an unpleasant fracas. According to several people who were in attendance, about five members of the audience commenced to heckle the singer and his band, and continued to do so. For nearly an hour, the witnesses say, Johnston alternated between brushing off the hecklers, appeasing the families, and holding fast to his muse. And then, finally, his frustration boiled over. The diminutive performer put down his guitar, jumped the four-foot-high temporary fence that bordered the stage, and went after one of his antagonists. Other members of the crowd pulled them apart, whereupon Johnston retreated and the hecklers were doused with jeers and beers.

"There were two guys in general, and maybe two or three others, who were doing karate chops and wrestling and yelling at Freedy while the rest of us were just sitting," says Sharon Her, who saw the debacle unfold. "It was sort of a mellow older crowd, and the scene was just really weird."

The 26-year-old Johnston fan says that despite one half-hearted warning from a Burns Security guard, the disruption escalated. "It was extremely mishandled," she says. "[The hecklers] should have been kicked out a long time ago."

Her and others say tension escalated as Johnston sang Elton John's "Rocket Man," during which the rowdy group, who appeared to be in their teens or early 20s, clapped out of time and sang the wrong lyrics loudly enough to stop the song entirely. Later, when the hecklers disrupted a solo performance of Johnston's song "Emily," the singer backed away from his microphone, singled out one of them and announced, "I'm coming for you, motherfucker."

Ron Maddox, who has served as the Taste of Minnesota's general manager for every one of its 18 years, initially told City Pages that the situation was "mishandled" by Burns, as well as by St. Paul police and state troopers, all of whom are hired to patrol the event. Maddox subsequently revised his assessment, saying that law enforcement officers had arrived on the scene within four minutes, in time to break it up and escort the disruptive attendees away. (No one was arrested.) "It was handled properly," he concluded.

Many witnesses, however, dispute that characterization of the events, insisting that it took closer to ten minutes for officers to arrive on the scene, and that they showed up only after the audience had taken care of business.

Others tend to point the finger at Johnston. "It seemed like harmless kids having too much fun," says 33-year-old music writer Henry Hormann, asserting that initially security had no real reason to react. "I've seen this once in a while and nothing happens, so I was surprised when Freedy jumped."

According to Ron Maddox, June 30 marked the largest crowd in Taste of Minnesota history; he estimates anywhere from 85,000 to 105,000 people attended. (Maddox says the Johnston show drew more than 3,000; attendees peg the number closer to 1,000.) And as any one of those tens of thousands of revelers well knows, festival organizers don't skimp on security. The question is: Why weren't any officers present at the Zone 105 stage? "We have security everywhere. It was a large crowd," Maddox responds. "We have five stages going of entertainment."

Maddox declines to say how many security officers were hired, allowing only that "it's a lot." He calls the scuffle an isolated incident in an otherwise trouble-free weekend. "What should have happened is that Freedy should have quit playing, gone to the side of the stage, and called for security. That's the professional thing to do."

"Nobody there felt he was unjustified in what he did," counters Sharon Her, adding that Johnston was mindful of the presence of children and took pains to defuse the situation away from his microphone. After the chaos unfolded, she says, she ended up behind the stage along with several audience members who chatted with the backing band while the singer composed himself. "Backstage he said he was really embarrassed and talked about how he had his last fight in high school and got his ass kicked," Her says. "He's a small guy."

Through his manager, Johnston declined to comment for this story. According to those who were present, when he retook the stage after a 15-minute hiatus, he apologized to the heckler he'd gone after, saying he was "a real peaceful guy." He wondered aloud where the police were, half-joking that he ought to have been arrested for what he'd done. Then he launched into his signature song: "Bad Reputation."

jb, Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

very recently dug out a tape a friend made me in '91 that included freedy's tune "fun ride" from his first album, _trouble tree_. i forgot how much that song kinda gets to me. pretty great. aside from "bad reputation" i'm not very familiar with his other stuff though.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

yes the trouble tree, that's what the first, good one was called. can you fly was very, very dissapointing, after that.

marc(drums) (marcdrums), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

I was totally going to start some irreverent Sewardesque thread about how overrated Johnston is and how the whole xgauy "You Can Fly is a perfect album" thing totally flies over, under or beside my head (depending on your perspective) but then I found this thread and between discussion of "Bad Reputation" and "I'm coming for you, motherfucker" I really can't be bothered to be mean.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 13 October 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

So what's the Can You Fly of the Aughties?

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:48 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

So, do go on.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 23:32 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe we'll know in 2011.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

So ... anyone hear his new one rain on the city? - i think it's really very good - or maybe after an eight year layoff any freedy would sound good to my ears - nonetheless, much better than right between the promises

jimmy_chop, Friday, 5 February 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)

I admit I haven't kept up with the guy, but I love Can You Fly and "I'm Not Hypnotized." Wrote this over on Rolling Country last month:

Also ungood, though still listenable, is Freedy Johnston's Rain On the City. I'll say he counts here since he recorded it in Nashville and "It's Gonna Come Back To You" sounds country. (And the guitar sound on "Livin' Too Close to the Rio Grande" is what I imagine Uncle Tupelo sound like.) I'm sad it's not good because I really like some of his songs, but he seems to have smoothed a lot of the interest out of his voice. There's a point in the second song where he sings "tried and tried and tried and tried" etc., and if you can imagine Freedy Johnston singing that, you can maybe picture the unusual way he used to shape vowels--very round and throaty. Unfortunately, that's almost all gone. Some of the tunes are pleasant, but nothing compelling. So all you've got left is the least interesting part of his arsenal--the Evocative Lyrics. On about half the songs, he tries to amp up the evocativeness by playing slowly, bleh. I may listen again in case I missed anything. Got an alarmingly high score from Ann Powers.

― dr. phil, Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:44 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

OK, Freedy Johnston sounds better today. It's still not setting the world on fire and I still miss his idiosyncrasies, but the tunes have grown on me. He's rhythmically competent enough that most of the songs hit some sort of relaxed groove, and his drummer knows how to work with his melodies. Best song probably "The Other Side of Love," which has a BeMyBaby beat. "Don't Fall In Love With a Lonely Girl" (the "tried and tried and..." song) is also good. Worst may be the bossa nova exercise "The Kind of Love We're In." Still borderline overall.

dr. phil, Friday, 5 February 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

(I don't really feel compelled to listen to it any more at this point.)

dr. phil, Friday, 5 February 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

Perspective understood, but to my ears he's one of the few out there that still just write songs - which to me is very welcome these days - i put him right there with grant lee phillips and damien jurado who although very different in their results mimic a similar approach --

jimmy_chop, Friday, 5 February 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

eleven years pass...

Might watch his streaming thingie on FB tonight.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 March 2021 19:17 (four years ago)

Will have to queue up Can You Fly. Haven’t heard it in ages.

that's not my post, Sunday, 14 March 2021 01:21 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuXiRxcZXGQ

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 March 2021 03:50 (four years ago)

Didn't know about the FB stream! Glad he's still at it.
This is worth looking for---from my Nashville Scene ballot comments re 2012 releases(I had this pegged as Related, not Country per se):

The Hobart Brothers & Lil Sis Hobart, At Least We Have Each Other:
Jon Dee Graham, Freedy Johnston, and Susan Cowsill pool their songs about buildings, food, dirt, jobs, women, men, spare tires of several kinds, jobs, pavement, waking up, jobs, dreams (maybe), jobs, spare sounds, fuller ones too (I prefer the former here, for the coffee break vibe, but both work), and jobs. Not really so many (or so remarkable) jobs, but more than we usually hear songs about; songs that beat plain ol' complaints, anyway. Susan Cowsill was the youngest member of her brothers'/mother's/manager dad's group The Cowsills, real life basis of the Partridge Family. She does not sound waify here: fairly tough and flexible voice, something of a potentially upsetting, born-for/to-trouble spark. Freedy Johnston's reedy, and observant enough to bend with the ornery wind; Graham's one gravelly, articulate Austin cracker. Johnston, whose stoically idiosyncratic practicality has so far led to at least one great solo album, Can You Fly (not even a rhetorical question), sometimes breaks out a bit of power pop here. It's in the soda pop pulled from a rusty icebed by a gas station, probably in Texas and/or the Great Plains, while the sun keeps the beat---they keep enough shade, enough cool to try and work out "the difference between beaten and beat," also Beat. This album is rec'd to these individual artists' fans, ditto those who enjoy the community-minded best of James McMurtry, Warren Zevon, John Doe, Dave Alvin, Eliza Gilkyson, like that y'all.

dow, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 00:41 (four years ago)

three years pass...

Bought a couple of sale-bin CDs today, This Perfect World and Never Home. (Can You Fly is all I had previously.) Loved this immediately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1QXchSivyo

clemenza, Monday, 3 March 2025 02:59 (eight months ago)

From The Cowsills vs The Partridge Family

I like Rhythm of The World, though the guys sing all the leads. Glad to have Susan in strong duet w xpost Freedy Johnston (see upthread for their album w Jon Dee Graham)---from his fine 2022 janglefest, Back On The Road To You, this is "The Power of Love," brothers and sisters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN0O8AhAY5c

dow, Monday, 3 March 2025 20:28 (eight months ago)

xpost Can't Sink This Town. I have This Perfect World and Can You Fly on CD ... both great but haven't pulled them out in ages. Good to hear his distinctive singing voice again.

that's not my post, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 02:28 (eight months ago)

lol looking back i made a similar comment 3 years ago about Can You Fly but i guess i never got around to re-listening

that's not my post, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 02:29 (eight months ago)

This 2022 song (Trick of the Light) is really good IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peQ_X2ZoFBc

aphoristical, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 03:29 (eight months ago)

I've always loved "Trying to Tell You," but I kind of forgot about him. Favourite after one listen of Never Home:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVg4aCIn8Ps

Christgau gave him an A+--did he ever have a moment? I see he was on a soundtrack or two in the late '90s. I never see him mentioned any more when people comb over the '90s.

clemenza, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 20:17 (eight months ago)

he probably still rakes in ok money from Bad Reputation being in a handful of movies.

I saw him live on the Perfect World tour but unfortunately got so drunk I blacked out and do not recall any of it.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 23:51 (eight months ago)


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