Scream Thy Last Scream/Vegetable Man

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I wonder what possible reason there could be for these never to have been released, especially when a) they're pretty good, and b)just about everything Syd Barrett did subsequently got released, even crappy stop-start takes of songs.

Not only are they pretty good, but along with Jugband Blues they form an important transitional triumvirate, a bridge between the psychedelia of Piper and the more personal solo material. Actually, stripped of their production they'd be not so dissimilar in feel to songs like Wolfpack or Rats.

Sigmund Floyd, Monday, 21 February 2005 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Both classic, of course. My co-worker John has an mp3 of "Scream..." that he plays virtually every day, and it never fails to reduce him to hysterics (particularly the chipmunk voice).

Always thought Robyn Hitchcock's cover of "Vegetable Man" was rather boringly faithful. Didn't someone else recently cover it? Or did I dream that?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 21 February 2005 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i remember liking the jesus and mary chain cover of vegetable man.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 21 February 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Playing "Scream Thy last Scream" now...it is mighty rocking, especially the slowly escalating mid-section.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 21 February 2005 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Just don't put 'em out as bonus tracks on a Piper at the Gates of Dawn CD, OK?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Weren't they originally intended for Saucerful Of Secrets?

Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was a rejected single.

Trip Maker (Sean Witzman), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

the pink floyd guys seem really sensitive about the whole barrett going nuts (and the way they treated him) thing. but these two songs are great, of course.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 21 February 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus and Mary Chain do Vegetable Man on the back of the Upside Down 12 inch.

dan. (dan.), Monday, 21 February 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Just don't put 'em out as bonus tracks on a Piper at the Gates of Dawn CD, OK?

-- Tim Ellison (timelliso...), February 21st, 2005 12:45 PM. (Tim Ellison)

what they should do is put them in with a collection of the early syd singles like apples & oranges, candy & a currant bun, it would be so nice, etc. maybe even stanley the simpleton too.

eman (eman), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 05:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Exactly.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't "It Would be so Nice" penned by Wright?

Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 06:02 (twenty-one years ago)

oh you're right.

eman (eman), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 06:42 (twenty-one years ago)

But it could be on an album like this, along with "Point Me at the Sky," etc.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 08:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the last mention was "But it's sung by the Drummer, for pete's sake"...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Could this be a business/managerial decision rather than an artistic one? Something to do with Floyd parting company with Blackhill not long after Syd parted company with his marbles? And yet, the music they recorded for "Tonite Let's All Make Love In London" has come out.

what they should do is put them in with a collection of the early syd singles like apples & oranges, candy & a currant bun, it would be so nice, etc. maybe even stanley the simpleton too.

I've actually got a really nice little CD (nice sleeve) with all of their single a- and b-sides up to and including "Apples and Oranges". Don't know when that was released. "Point Me At the Sky" is a great song but misery guts Waters doesn't like it and it might be tangled up in the managerial comings and goings mentioned earlier

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

wasnt there also another lost song called something like "have you got it yet?"? ... i half recall reading something about sessions for vman/scream and then this other number which may or maynot have been a joke by syd. he evidently just keeps changing things every 2 bars or so and insecently asks "hae you got it yet?"..

anyone else know what i'm half remembering?

b b, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a fairly available bootleg "Dark Side of the Moo" that has all the early singles, b-sides, etc. Has cows on the cover.

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I've seen that thing like twice ever, yo.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I have Dark Side of the Moo -- that's the first place I heard all of this stuff. It has "Scream Thy Last Scream" but it DOESN'T have "Vegetable Man", which is odd. It also has the "Zabriskie Point" tracks.

The singles were all released as a disc in the Shine On box of complete recordings -- that's probably the thing Dada is referring to. So it's not like they haven't been rereleased already. Why it wasn't also all tacked onto the Relics CD is what's puzzling.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Dark Side of the Moo...great memories of being a teenager again. I am bummed that they haven't officially released Scream Thy Last Scream/Vegetable Man since then, but at least the others came out with Shine On.

For the record, I love Wright's "It Would Be So Nice"

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

The singles disc from the box was available seperately. May have just been a promo thing for buying Floyd CDs, but eventually HMV were throwing them in their Sale bins for 99p.

Wandering Boy Poet, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

... which is where I got mine!

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

it was available seperately in Europe; you can find it on gemm.com (that's where I got mine). No Scream or Vegetable Man though! Still the Floyd cd I play the most.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

wasnt there also another lost song called something like "have you got it yet?"? ... i half recall reading something about sessions for vman/scream and then this other number which may or maynot have been a joke by syd. he evidently just keeps changing things every 2 bars or so and insecently asks "hae you got it yet?"..

anyone else know what i'm half remembering?

Yeah, that's described in Nick Kent's "The Dark Stuff." Kent believes it was a fuck-you to the band, who couldn't learn the song, with its constantly changing chords and key changes.

Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:17 (sixteen years ago)


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