TS: (Beatles - Let it Be) vs. (Replacements - Let it Be)

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I revere the Beatles as much as the next music geek, but I'll side with the Mats* on this one. The Beatles' Let it Be has some great songs on it, but it's waaayyy to inconsistent to compare to The Replacement's rendition. And Let it Be...Naked didn't help. What do you think?

(I swear that I searched the archives thoroughly, so forgive if this has already been done.)

* - Why does everyone call them "The Mats," anyway?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

Let It Be...Naked DID help. Great album.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

I think it went The Replacements -> The (Re-)Placemats -> The 'Mats. Kind of a joke among fans?

sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

(I don't think I've heard either album)

sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

Let It Be by the Replacements: their best album.
" " " " " Beatles: their worst album.

Let It Bleed: better than either.

MV, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

Mats, of course. And I would probably take Please to Meet Me or Tim over Let it Be.

subgenius (subgenius), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

BTW, for whatever it's worth, Our Man Bob Stinson died just over ten years ago: Feb. 20, 1995. Small bit of trivia that may justify your substance abuse for the next week.... Or not.

subgenius (subgenius), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 05:42 (twenty years ago)

I just drank to Bob.

Jimmy Mod Has Returned With Spices And Silks (ModJ), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

I didn't live the Beatles' album for a year after I heard it...

Jimmy Mod Has Returned With Spices And Silks (ModJ), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

Yea, I'd probably take Tim over the Beatles' Let it Be, but not Pleased to Meet Me. I picked it up about a month ago and I can't really get into it. There are maybe three songs on it I really enjoy ("Alex Chilton," "Nightclub Jitters[?]"), but the others are kind of lackluster. I dunno. I trust the mats, though, so i'll give it some more time. is there anything i should know about it that might make me like it more?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

Not digging Valentine, huh?

Jimmy Mod Has Returned With Spices And Silks (ModJ), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

Beatles by a million miles, not even a contest. Replacements never did a damn thing for me.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)

poortheatre: I would take "Can't Hardly Wait" over just about any Mats song (although I have to admit I prefer the older versions, with Bob playing guitar). "Skyway" and "Never Mind" are two other favorites -- although, now that I think about it, the only song I don't like from that album is "Red Red Wine," but I am a huge nerd for this band.

Oh, by the way, in case none of you have seen this: downloade these videos. The high-res videos are great. You always read that Tommy was like 12, but HOLY SHIT HE WAS REALLY TWELVE.

subgenius (subgenius), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

Just gave Please to Meet Me a quick listen. Much better this time 'round. It breaks down like this for me...

VINTAGE 'MATS:
Alex Chilton
Nightclub Jitters
Nevermind
Skyway
Can't Hardly Wait

SOLID:
I.O.U.
Valentine

MEDIOCRE:
Red Red Wine
The Ledge
I Don't Know

LAUGHABLE:
Shooting Dirty Pool

Still, it's got nothing on the first two albums.I think I would have liked this better if they had kept Stinson and recorded it in Westerberg's basement or something.

How do the next two albums compare?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of their performance of Saturday Night Live?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

Still, it's got nothing on the first two albums.

I'll withdraw that.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of their performance of Saturday Night Live?

There are two fan-compiled DVDs of Replacements performances and videos on Easytree right now. I believe they include the SNL performance.

subgenius (subgenius), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

The Replacements' "Let it Be" has wonderful throwaways like "Gary's Got A Boner" and "Tommy's Got His Tonsils Out" whose absence would make the album less-than-awesome.

The Beatles' "Let it Bed" has wonderful throwaways like "Dig A Pony" and "Maggie Mae" whose absence would make the album less-than-tolerable.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

The Beatles' "Let it Bed" ---> "Let it Be"

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

The Mats album is my favorite LP ever, so, that one.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

At the moment I'm listening to "Don't Tell A Soul" for the second time in my life. What a lump of shit.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Let it be is by far the worst Beatles album, but is still preferable to the Replacements album. Along with the Go-Betweens, surely the most overrated act of the 80's.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I never really got past the third song on that one..

xpost

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Calling another band overrated while defending the Beatles ... hmmm.

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I honestly didn't pick up Let it Be by ye olde Beatles until way, way after the fact (let's put it this way, I had Laibach's cover album of it before I had the definite article). It's nice in spots, woefully overproduced in others, and there is a lot of fuckin' filler there ("Dig a Pony", "Dig It", etc.) Let it Be by the Replacements, meanwhile, is FUCKIN' GOLD FROM BEGINNING TO END. Even the arguable filler tracks ("Gary's Got a Boner") are great. So, I'll take the Replaschmucks over the Beatyermeatles.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

underrated replacements classic vs. underrated beatles also-ran. mats version underrated by all those fans who think tim or pleased to meet me are better, which is as wrong as calling those gates in central park saffron. the only replacements album that might be better is hootenanny. beatles version underrated by classic-rock fans who don't recognize "dig a pony" or "dig it" for the rock classics they are.

mats album has one big boner, the horribly overdone and overrated "sixteen blue." everything else is, as alexinnyc wisely points out, fuckin' gold. i don't listen to it much anymore 'cause i way overplayed it when i was a younger fact checking cuz. an album that changed my life. unfortunately, it's also a template for a lot of really bad modern/alt/indie/college rock that followed but that's not the mats' fault. lotsa great artworks have had lotsa not so great disciples. that's just how it is.

beatles album is solid through and through, though i've never understood the appeal of "get back," which is the template for every bad paul mccartney rock song to come. "i me mine" is sub-par george. "one after 909" is a throwaway that doesn't stand up to great throwaways like, say, "gary's got a boner." "long and winding road" is an ok piano ballad that's got nothing on "androgynous." "two of us," on the other hand, is every bit as good an album opener as "i will dare." "dig it" tops "seen your video" in the celebrating/defecating-pop-culture department. "let it be" is as exactly as good as rem's "everybody hurts," another song i admire but don't need to ever hear again. nothin' on the album just plain opens up and rocks like "favorite thing" or "tommy gets his tonsils out."

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

I'll take the Beatles here just cause I Dig A Pony and I Got a Feeling do more for me than any songs on the Mats album. I'm in the Hootenanny camp when it comes to favorite Replacements albums.

darin (darin), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

I disliked the ...Naked album, but more so because I could hear Paul McCartney trying to change history than anything. If there were a ...Naked for the Replacements, it would be so much cooler with songs like "Temptation Eyes" (which should've replaced the "Black Diamond" cover).

Also, Phil Spector (the outsider) did more harm than good to the Beatles while Peter Buck (the outsider) did more good than harm to the Mats.

The Replacements are the most underrated overrated underrated band out there.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Also, Phil Spector (the outsider) did more harm than good to the Beatles

but what about outsider billy preston?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

I liked the organ solo on "Get Back".

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

I've never understood the hate for "Black Diamond." It's a masterpiece of ineptness (the solo is Bob Stinson's finest horu), with more juice than the KISS version.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Yeah man "Black Diamond" rules!

Replacements win here.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

LET IT BEEEEEEEEEE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8cNHCP3juQ

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago)

good grief what a question.

'mats FTW.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 3 December 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmVd9F1fW00

xhuxk, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYM_qn32qcU

http://tinyurl.com/vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago)

HOLY SHIT NED

wtf is that????????

philip michael thomas: STILL EGOTING

EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

also, we need a poll for that

EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago)

omg hahaha that is a given poll. i get the idea but why is the kid from forrest gump there? was he ever considered a star?

sonderangerbot, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago)

ha columbo

balls, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago)

man oh man, that's one for the ages

Dominique, Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:38 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

http://i.imgur.com/2x9RsVS.jpg

乒乓, Sunday, 29 December 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago)

do not defoul dig a pony.

Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 29 December 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago)


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