Green or Gaye?

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Co-worker argument.....
Al Green or Marvin Gaye?
One of our lives depend on it........

dock ellis, Thursday, 24 February 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)

Green Gartside.

Ian Riese-Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

Gaye.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

a few years ago i woulda argued green, but lately i've changed my mind. even his "tossaway albums" (dream of a lifetime) are fantabulous

LaToya JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

i only changed my mind in that direction recently too. gaye is much more subtle, i think.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

Wow I listened to the Rev last night. I choose Green. I wanna get the album that has Call Me on it. And the one RZA and Ghostface sampled on Ironman.. sorry I am bad with titles sometimes.

I must admit I have not heard much Gaye stuff.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

I wanna get the album that has Call Me on it. And the one RZA and Ghostface sampled on Ironman.. sorry I am bad with titles sometimes.

the album is called Call Me. the song is "You Ought to Be With Me". it's a pretty great album overall.

i only recently heard Green's song "Belle" and it's so fucking beautiful. still haven't picked up the album, but the way he's confronting his secular/spiritual sides is just amazing.

LaToya JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 24 February 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

i personally am just addicted to Gaye's 80s stuff. Midnight Lover is now my favorite of his albums and "Third World Girl" is one of my all time favorite songs. (for some reason Midnight Lover isn't listed as one of his albums on AMG, you have to search for the album seperately? NED!)

i haven't heard In Our Lifetime. is it more of the synthy/drum machine stuff he used on Midnight?

LaToya JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 24 February 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

Marvin Gaye is wonderful but What's Going On is somewhat overrated. Al Green is more wonderful.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 24 February 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

AAAAAAAALLLLL, yer chips're ready!!!!!

Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Thursday, 24 February 2005 06:05 (twenty years ago)

Jarreau!!!!!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 24 February 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

Green by so very, very much.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 24 February 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

Green Green Green Green Green Green Green Green Green Green Green

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 24 February 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

Love and Happiness fuckin rules.

Anyone Who Can Pick Up A Frying Pan Pwns Death (AaronHz), Thursday, 24 February 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

I've only heard Let's Get It On and What's Going On by Gaye, but unless the rest of his stuff is a miracle, Al Green wins this easily.

Lingbertt, Thursday, 24 February 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

The Amazing Carnac [brandishing sealed envelope]: Green or Gaye.
Ed McMahon: "Green or Gaye."

Carnac gives Ed a glance, then opens the envelope and reads:

Carnac: "Two parties with no chance of governing ever.
Ed: Ho ho ho ho!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 24 February 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

...seriously though, Al Green's voice wins the decision - DESPITE the fact that I much prefer the Motown sounds to those of Stax/Hi. And this opinion is eternal; nothing will sway it.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 24 February 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

I'm voting Green.

Which one of you's going to die?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 24 February 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

Marvin Gaye. He's got far more great songs than the reverend. People seem to be overlooking all his great stuff prior to What's Going On.

Vic Funk, Thursday, 24 February 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

I would have said Green a few years ago too, but now it's Gaye. Is it possible that Sexual Healing is underrated?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

underrated ? why ? it's been a huge success and is now a classic, no ?

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

gaye is much more subtle, i think.
-- jed_ (colin_o_har...), February 24th, 2005.

really I always thought green's music more subtle. Though I only know gaye's hits so my comparison might be biased. Whatever, like others have stated, green wins because of his voice. Its seem more natural when he hits the high notes than gaye

jb, Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

it's been a huge success and is now a classic, no ?

Well yeah, but I don't many people who really KNOW the song compared to some other r&b classiks, it's more like the title has just become a cliche.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

anyway, i say green too. although i like gaye. always found "what's going on" (the album) very overrated. i find it a bit boring...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Well yeah, but I don't many people who really KNOW the song compared to some other r&b classiks, it's more like the title has just become a cliche.

huh ?? i'd say everybody knows that song !! anyway, it's really great.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

[Gag response to title]
BOTH!
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Huk-L, Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I heart Huk-L.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

huh ?? i'd say everybody knows that song !! anyway, it's really great.

Okay, when I had to learn this song for my band earlier this year, I realized *I* (and pretty much all of the musicians near my age that I know) didn't know the song well enough to sing it.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

hum....maybe the young generation don't know it then... but then i suppose many "kids" don't know many "hits" from the beatles but that doesn't make them underrated...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

That's a tough one.
I vaccilate between the two, but if I had to choose, I think Green would win by a smidge.
I'm a big Willie Mitchell fan, and I'm a huge fan of the chord progressions in a lot of Green's songs.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Cooke.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 24 February 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

I'd take Green cuz:

a/ I listen to his stuff more often
b/ I had the opportunity to see him perform live twice, and I don't care who you are, if you remain unaffected by one of his performances, then you're just one of those people
c/ the beginning of Love and Happiness is truly one of the great moments in all of recorded music

(nothing vs. Marvin though. Heard both Inner City Blues and Ain't That Peculiar yesterday during my run...made me totally forget what I was doing)

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Gaye, because there's more of an emotional & stylistic range to his work, and a pleasing sense of progression, and there's a dark, troubled side that Green lacks. Green = variations on one theme. Gaye = many themes. Also because Gaye more or less stayed hot all the way through his career, whereas Green dipped right out after he found God.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

"whereas Green dipped right out after he found God."

You havent heard "Belle" or any of the '80s albums.

Both have magnificent voices, probably the two greatest singers in rock. Green was the more consistent record maker; just about every album between "Gets Next To You" and "Al Green is Love" is worthwhile, with "Call Me" being the considered masterpiece.

I'll vouch for "Livin' For You." It's got "Beware."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

I heard some of the 80s stuff. "Goin Away" comes to mind. Nice, but not up there with the 70s stuff. Then there was that album he did with the Fine Young Cannibals. Paid good money for that, I did. Oops.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

On Green's side, I did get to see him live and it was fantastic. I bet Marvin would have been amazing live too (can anyone recommend something from all of those dodgy looking live albums?).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

The thing about going to see Green live is that even us non-believers are affected by his schpeels. Even my brother-in-law, the coolest, coldest cookie of the bunch admitted that he had a lump in his throat the whole show.
And then there's the oddity of this preacher man making all the women in the audience believe that he loves each and every one of them.

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

I go with Al. He's even a better singer than Marvin, who is fantastic. I like the backing better on Al Green's records. I find more musical detail in the singing and in the playing of the Hi Rhythm Section. But Al Green never did anything as out-there as "Here, My Dear," which I think is the definitive Marvin Gaye album even more than the ones commonly cited. "Belle" is out there, though, and yeah, everyone interested in AG should get that. Marvin Gaye sounds so neurotic; Al sounds beyond that, into a madness and obsession that no one else in soul has ever matched.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

i haven't heard In Our Lifetime. is it more of the synthy/drum machine stuff he used on Midnight?

No, but it's great — definitely pushes the "Good Marvin/Bad Marvin" stuff to the fore, rendering it a massive influence on Prince, conceptually at least. Also, "Funk Me" has one of the most dynamic, invigorating middle-8's you'll ever hear.

If you like the synthy/drum machine stuff on Midnight, you should pick up the 2-disc version of it and some of the unfinished stuff they released after he died — "Savage In the Sack", etc.

So, Gaye — all the way. No offense to Green — he's a fine, lovin', soul man. But Gaye is a troubled, conflicted mess with an ear for texture and melody — I'll take the latter every time.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

Gaye, because there's more of an emotional & stylistic range to his work

this is one of the the main things that makes me pick Gaye. it's not only that Green had only "one sound", but that the entirety of Hi records 70s work had that same sound. i know green had the best voice of the bunch, but you could put on any Syl Johnson, Ann Peeples, OV Wright, etc records, and they're all the same instrumentation and chord progressions. lovely ones, and ones that i'll never tire hearing, but largely the same

LaToya JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

How available is In Our Lifetime, Matthew?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

Marvin Gaye- mostly cuz of the quantity of quality

Jospeh Castellanos (DJ JOE INC), Friday, 25 February 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

I'm in the camp of those who have seen Al Green live and been converted by the most electrifying performer I've ever witnessed.

I'll take Green for vocal quality, too -- he soars into realms where Gaye would turn back. And if you don't hear the darkness, madness and desperation at the edges of what he's doing, give a listen at the very least to "(Sweet As Love) Strong As Death".

briania (briania), Friday, 25 February 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Marvin Gaye is one of my all-time favourites, and I love him unreservedly. On the other hand, Al Green is my all-time favourite musical act, solo or group, for a lot of the reasons the excellent Edd S Hurt cites above - it's the combination of a glorious singer (and great songwriter too) with my favourite producer ever and my favourite group of musicians ever that settles it.

No one seems to have mentioned that they were two of the sexiest male pop stars of all time too.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 25 February 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

Marvin. For some of the reasons given above by others and for the duets with Tammi. But it was a tough matchup. I would have thought it had been set by Alex in NYC, if he liked soul music.

Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 25 February 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

Jarreau!!!!!

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― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:11 PM Bookmark

Seeing this in the middle of the thread is so o_O o_O o_O o_O to me. That's my middle name and what all my family calls me. I could suddenly hear my dad yelling at me.

Et tu, Crut? (The Reverend), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:13 (sixteen years ago)

Al Green. Al Green. Al Green. More great songs.

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:27 (sixteen years ago)

four years pass...

impossible

maven with rockabilly glasses (Matt P), Thursday, 25 July 2013 03:31 (twelve years ago)


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