For me it has gotta be Joanna Newsom. WTF her appeal is is beyond me.
― tk (tk), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― tk (tk), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh, and Radiohead lost me at "Kid A". Can't get into anything they've done since.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)
OK, I'll stop. Actually I do "get" why somebody might buy into each of these, but I "don't get it".
― peepee (peepee), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― rebecca hampton (r h), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)
Led ZepFlaming LipsMercury Rev
heresies all, i know
― Lee (fsharp), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)
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― tk (tk), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)
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― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Elvis is Dead, Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lee (fsharp), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.sfbg.com/39/20/cover_box.jpg
― tk (tk), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)
SpiritualizedKraftwerk!!!
― darin (darin), Saturday, 26 February 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 26 February 2005 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)
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― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 26 February 2005 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)
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― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 26 February 2005 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)
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― Morg, Saturday, 26 February 2005 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)
That said, I don't know what interests people in Ashanti, whom I don't loathe or even dislike but I find hard to care about.
Richard Marx. I don't loathe him either. In fact I think "Hazard" is a great song. Which confuses me even more, since everything else he's done has passed by me with zero impact.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 26 February 2005 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 26 February 2005 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― 121 onions (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 26 February 2005 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― joseph (joseph), Saturday, 26 February 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)
anyway - i don't "get":
John Lennon solo (aside from Working Class Hero and Jealous Guy)
any of the Bastro / Squirrel Bait / King Kong stuff
Red Krayola (actually I do get it but i think they suck)
a good deal of M.I.A's album (just definitely NOT "Pull Up The People" - that song rules)
Merzbow
Antony & The Johnsons
Loretta Lynn
Joy Division
Le Savy Fav and Enon (God knows I've tried)
"grime"
Elvis Costello
Tsunami (except "Geniuses of Crack")
Teeth of Lions Rule The Divine
and many many many more. None of these are artists I *dislike,* you understand - these are all artists / genres that I have TRIED to appreciate at one time or another, for some reason or another.
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 26 February 2005 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)
They're incredibly ordinary. I'd add dull, crass, horribly overproduced, need better tunes (even S Club 7 had the decency to provide some). Sigh. I suppose their best tunes must be on the albums or something.... The singles start to actively bore me before they have even finished (1:30?)
Beatles > OasisSpice Girls > Girls Aloud
And I don't even like the Spice Girls.
― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)
I'd still do Nadine though
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― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― dmun, Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― molly, Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Do Girls Aloud remind older guys of top 40 stuff they heard growing up? Is that it, nostalgia?
Ok, I've thought about it far too long already.
― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)
Had your ears syringed lately?
― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Saturday, 26 February 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)
And be at least a decade younger, possibly female.
Otherwise they just seem utterly by numbers. Not so much out of control as just 'fairly fast' for the Top 40.
I knew it wouldn't be a popular opinion round here!
totally awesome out of control Panzer-attack pop songs
"They're Not Gonna Get Usssss!!"
Ooops.. wrong band.
― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)
Hehe. Does the NME like them too?
― itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)
there's just also so many kinds of coil. surely you can like one
― ivy., Wednesday, 9 April 2025 14:54 (eleven months ago)
XP - That's kinda mean but w/e
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, April 9, 2025 10:21 AM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
also sry i was just being playful, given the music being discussed
― ivy., Wednesday, 9 April 2025 14:55 (eleven months ago)
I want to like Coil so bad! I definitely feel like it’s a failure on my part. I’ve bought multiple releases thinking “this one will do it!” and they leave me absolutely cold.
― Cow_Art, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 15:03 (eleven months ago)
Alicia Keys
I've long maintained that Alicia must have some kind of odd way of wearing her headphones when she tracks her vocals because she is always, precisely, exactly, just the right number of cents flat to make my ears hurt. It's uncanny, a song of hers can be playing at the lowest volume in the loudest room and my ears will stick prick up and identify that strange slightly-flat thing
― neu! romancer (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 15:24 (eleven months ago)
"Empire State Of Mind" (the Jay-Z version) is the one track where this is not the case-- I always just supposed that a producer on Jay's end did a pitch correction
― neu! romancer (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 15:25 (eleven months ago)
I find it's easy to like Coil if you treat them as a kind of novelty act. I mean, their whole magick/liminal/influence of drugs/"moon music" thing is so patently absurd that it's actually quite entertaining.
― bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 15:35 (eleven months ago)
I like "You Don't Know My Name" and a couple others, but she oozes fraudulence, just fake soul. If you want me to run out of the room setting cats on fire, play "No One."
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 15:46 (eleven months ago)
The Frogs
― Evan, Wednesday, February 24, 2021 5:00 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Still never clicked. And I am a 80s/90s weirdo and/or underground music obsessive.
Finally sold my original copy of It's Only Right And Natural after holding it hostage for years (bought cheap) waiting to "get" it.
― Evan, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 15:47 (eleven months ago)
> I call it "Nebraska Syndrome"
The Beach Boys have always been out of reach for me, because vocal harmony isn't ever the primary appeal in rock music for me, and it's the core of the Beach Boys' magic. I get why I don't get it. The instruments always interest me more than the vocals. I'm not as keen on Dylan's "wild, thin mercury sound" phase, cause the instrumentals feel samey to me versus later work. But the late career Beach Boys deep dive of the latest Andrew Hickey podcasts made me realize I hadn't even considered their post-Pet Sounds music. So maybe I'm finding my way in with The Beach Boys Love You because here the oddness of the arrangements and the writing overshadow the harmonies.
― Theracane Gratifaction (bendy), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 16:31 (eleven months ago)
I assume you've tried Smile?
― Cow_Art, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 16:39 (eleven months ago)
Back when Oasis were about to blow up worldwide I remember reading a piece with some record exec talking about their potential in the US compared to their peers, specifically naming "Country House" and "Common People" as being meaningless to Americans.
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 16:48 (eleven months ago)
As opposed to the literally meaningless "Wonderwall," lol
― uptight subreddit mod™ (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 16:56 (eleven months ago)
When I first heard "Common People" it was on a mix tape that a friend gave me in 96 or 97. This was in nowhere, East Texas. I did not have MTV and was not very... cosmopolitan at the time. I totally got it and freaked out about the song. I loved it so much. Ran out and bought Different Class.
Eventually, I realized that "chip stains" was talking about french fries. That was the only thing I didn't get about it initially. None of the other bands branded as britpop did anything for me at all.
In fact, I could put Damon Albarn in this thread. I "get" Oasis, even if I don't like them. I find it confusing that people keep putting Damon on things. Why is he on the new DJ Koze single? I find him utterly unspecial.
― Cow_Art, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 17:03 (eleven months ago)
Wow I hit a nerve with the Happy Mondays. Can't stand the sound of that guy's voice - always off key with those EMF/Big Audio Dynamite affectations *barf*
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 17:52 (eleven months ago)
The Happy Mondays didn’t hit for me until I saw the Kinky Afro video and then I “got” Shaun Ryder (shrugs)
― brimstead, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 18:29 (eleven months ago)
I totally understand not liking the Mondays but not "getting" them at all is odd
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 18:33 (eleven months ago)
Happy Mondays: Manchester :: Grateful Dead: San Francisco
- totally sum up their era of their city while not really sounding like the rest of their peers - fans describe as masterfully funky but sound slack-ass to nonbelievers - so many drugs - simultaneously sweet and thuggish - - -
― Theracane Gratifaction (bendy), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 18:54 (eleven months ago)
My current favorite song of theirs is the “think about the future” mix of “wrote for luck”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaR9tx2ezlY
― brimstead, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 18:55 (eleven months ago)
I tried WIlson's Smile, yeah. I was in a low point in life once and was like, "I've never delved into Pet Sounds, wonder if it will lift me out" so I got it and it didn't. I appreciate a lot of the important songs. But taking in Love You in moderate doses these days and I'm finally getting the underlying personas, perhaps because the voices aren't blending into that juggernaut of harmony and polish. Finally hearing weirdos and Mike Love, not just endless summers.
― Theracane Gratifaction (bendy), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 19:02 (eleven months ago)
soref's description of why they don't get led zep really resonates with me - i also just don't hear it for the most part. some undeniable songs for sure but they've never connected with me for many of the reasons soref lists. i like blues rock - i like zz top for god's sake - but zep's prog-ification of it completely misses me. i have to admit bonham's drumming is ace though...
lady gaga is a big one for me. again some undeniable songs but i don't hear the magic for the most part. i think her classically trained singing voice is tedious.
― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 19:10 (eleven months ago)
If we’re talking Happy Mondays remixes, my go to is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5CFHUygZ4o
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 19:10 (eleven months ago)
Oh, I got one! if the definition of not getting something is "being genuinely baffled by its success" rather than merely deciding it is not to your particular taste, then my pick is DJ Khaled, perhaps my ultimate "I can't believe this person is famous" famous person.
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 19:13 (eleven months ago)
Perry Farrell is my DJ Khaled
― I pity the foo fighter (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 19:50 (eleven months ago)
fans describe as masterfully funky
Even as a bigger fan of the Dead around here than most, I would sideeye the fuck out of anyone describing them as "masterfully funky".
― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 20:03 (eleven months ago)
Kate Bush
― Blood On The Knobs, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 20:03 (eleven months ago)
DJ Khaled just has fifty other ppl with actual fanbases on every single, no? Is anyone a fan of Khaled himself as a recording artist?
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 20:04 (eleven months ago)
I have never met a person who professed to be a fan
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 20:18 (eleven months ago)
He started out in radio. So he's basically the presenter of his albums rather than the attraction.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 20:27 (eleven months ago)
Yes. I suppose you could be puzzled what his appeal is as a radio DJ too, but afaict there's plenty like him.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 20:30 (eleven months ago)
he’s more like a mixtape host or something than a musical performer I would say
― brimstead, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 20:35 (eleven months ago)
xposts yah exactly
― brimstead, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 20:36 (eleven months ago)
I don’t listen to The Happy Mondays as often as I prob should but I’ve always thought Ryder is a top-notch lyricist
― neu! romancer (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 22:03 (eleven months ago)
Is there anything to "get" with the Happy Mondays though? I understand not liking them, but understanding them isn't exactly rocket salad to me.
I'm truly struggling to think of a band I don't "get". Like, even music I don't like I generally understand what it is people like about it. Even Nick Cave
― DLC Soundsystem (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 22:41 (eleven months ago)
Maybe one I would put down are Massive Attack. I mean, I think they're decent producers and have some cool songs but overall they're kind of hard for me to get super excited about for a band who are so extremely well respected and who play these big live shows. Do people dance at those? I've never seen them, but I could imagine it's kind of a dreary experience
― DLC Soundsystem (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 22:45 (eleven months ago)
i just didn't feel shaun's swagger until later on, his vocals and lyrics jumped out the page when i got older, i can't explain it rationally.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 23:03 (eleven months ago)
I'll second Evan on The Frogs; I went through a big weirdo/noise phase a few years back but could never get into them at all.
Plus the Dead C, but that's ok as I doubt they get too hung up on many people getting them.
― Duane Barry, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 23:32 (eleven months ago)
Yeah I really want to like the Dead C. So many cool album covers.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 23:38 (eleven months ago)
"The White House" album is the one I got into (many years back)
I don't "get" Phish, to the point of invoking that hoary cliché "Why would someone listen to this when there's other music that does all these things better?" – but, y'know, to each their own!
― uptight subreddit mod™ (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 23:39 (eleven months ago)
The one that springs to mind is 0PN, I love Rifts so so so so much and listen to it all the time, but it's such a weird outlier that it makes me feel like I'm "not actually an 0PN fan" for loving it
I would say that Rifts is the one! Nothing since then has really clicked for me - and while I have kinda respected his refusal to get stuck in a sound, I was pretty stoked when he revisited that stuff for the Rebuilds show a few years ago
― Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 23:42 (eleven months ago)
Obviously yeah 0PN and Flying Lotus. I want to like these guys but I feel like I'm missing something essential
― DLC Soundsystem (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 23:45 (eleven months ago)
same
― sleeve, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 23:54 (eleven months ago)
I definitely get Dead C more than Steely Dan … I gave up on the latter.
― sarahell, Thursday, 10 April 2025 00:19 (eleven months ago)
ha I have abt the same # of records from both, it's a tie for me
― sleeve, Thursday, 10 April 2025 00:21 (eleven months ago)
I feel like I should like M83. I love The Field, MBV obviously, enjoy some Ulrich Schnauss, and lots of other adjacent and superficially similar things, but aside from "Run Into Flowers," it always sounds like the music you hear on ads for online gambling
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 10 April 2025 00:25 (eleven months ago)
Yeah, I have two Fly Lotus records and those things just will not stay on the turntable.
― Cow_Art, Thursday, 10 April 2025 00:38 (eleven months ago)
the music you hear on ads for online gamblingLOL
― sleeve, Thursday, 10 April 2025 00:41 (eleven months ago)
i would encourage people to "not get" the dead c
― foghat leghorn (doo rag), Thursday, 10 April 2025 03:54 (eleven months ago)
If you want me to run out of the room setting cats on fire, play "No One."
god absolutely, her voice is so strained and just feels like someone driving icepicks into my ears. also true for that New York song. And This Girl's on Fire. These songs are not comfortably in her range.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 10 April 2025 14:29 (eleven months ago)
M83 is like two different groups to me: 2001-2008 = breathy vocals juxtaposed by electro-shoegaze swells vs. 2011-current = yelpy vocals + epic synths
definitely WAY prefer the first phase personally
― Evan, Thursday, 10 April 2025 15:00 (eleven months ago)
Dead Cities... was a good album, didn't really enjoy anything past that
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Thursday, 10 April 2025 16:25 (eleven months ago)