― alex in montreal, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
they're amazing. i have some information on them @ home that i'll post later. good luck finding anything, at least without paying with vital organs.
(and whatever you do -don't- read that horrid pitchfork series on the japanese underground. reads like a goddamn highschool essay. eeesh.)
― jess, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
This is psychedelic music with huge power. I have their LIVE 77 double set, which is fucking great. Far better than almost any music that was released during that period (must thank Brian Palmer for providing me with 'directions', it took a while to download but well worth it: Though someone seems to have to have taken out the tracks from its original location since I downloaded it).
Unfortunately, I don't have that CD writer so I can't make any copies (though a friend of mine is getting one and has offered to) but I'm sure someone else here has it. Enjoy the video.
― Julio Desouza, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― xero (xero), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)
― Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)
I'm gonna need a copy of Heavier Than A Death In The Family as well, for "People Can Choose" and "The Night Harvesters."
― xero (xero), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)
http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/les.rallizes.denudes.html
I remember there was a 'grey area' 2LP reissue as well about two years back. I think it can be located by trawling eBay; there are a couple of LPs up now, but I'm not sure if they're the same set as on the 2CD. (There's also a 10CD live set up if you're really obsessed.)
― Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)
― Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)
(There's also a 10CD live set up if you're really obsessed.)
Haha, yeah, I saw that. I'm not there yet. YET.
Babelfish translation of "Flame of Ice" lyrics:
Pattern A:Like thing solving in everyone and not making open and first visiting as for you the flame of the ice which lives leads away you with the other side of the mirror where secret produces you we love which keeps falling will remain and will be able to bloom, the black we friend where (we has known the bloom of the decomposition which is not) your death which here is the angel of the darkness whirls the fact that it blossoms and dances as though it is insanity, when (as for we - it keeps burning) (as for we it keeps exceeding the limit) (darkness it gets near) (the blood - crossing) (keep returning to in the mirror)
Pattern B:You the breaking which lives the petal which scatters break with the other side of the mirror and the mirror which scatters break and becoming your dream countless fragment which scatters, fall in we The black we friend where we love which falls remains and is not black we friend you carried the fragrance of the blood and the tide which carry the fragrance of the blood and the sand as though it is insanity, As for you the flame of the ice which lives leads away you with the other side of the mirror If the dream which is invaded the soldier of the dream where the dream darkness which is invaded returns as for the soldier of the dream which fights as for the fight which fights very long your freedom is not forgotten fight grasping the freedom which continues lets flow the deep-red blood
cover of IN: etc., vol. 2 (1996 EP):
http://www.yk.rim.or.jp/~ubud/rc4.JPG
― xero (xero), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)
― xero (xero), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)
Actually, based on your remarks about the 10-CD set, I'll probably just monitor ebay with extreme vigilance until a copy of the 2002 CD bootleg Heavier Than A Death In The Family appears -- it's the only release that definitely has those two tracks, from what I can make out of the Rallizes discography page.
amp-frying, my-entire-record-collection-means-nothing-to-me-now godlike brilliance
YES. I'm ordering that Le 12 Mars 1977 reissue NOW.
― xero (xero), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)
― Laura H. (laurah), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)
― ian.j0hnson@mars.field (laurah), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)
― Soukesian, Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)
Guess I'm looking for Oz Days next!
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)
Rad!
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)
― Fetchboy (Felcher), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)
― xero (xero), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
― xero (xero), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)
The drummer that pdf is talking abt is sabu toyozumi (they played in '97) -- the gig ws issued as a 2LP thingy on QBICO, its a gig where the participants should've stopped after half an hour but y'know how ppl keep clapping at these gigs...
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)
― xero (xero), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)
http://www.fusetronsound.com/label.php?whomart=LESRALLIZESDENUDES/TAJMAHALTRAVELLERS
― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)
The quantity of live and studio material released over the last few years suggests that SOMEONE has access to an archive which, surely, must belong either to the Rallizes' only permanent member, or to someone who was very close to him. The biographical information available certainly doesn't suggest a band that was ever big enough to attract a following of bootleggers and/or obsessives.
Anyone ever hear what the big M is up to these days?
Even any good rumours?
― Soukesian, Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Friday, 4 November 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)
with many thanks to ILM
― !, Friday, 4 November 2005 03:21 (twenty years ago)
― ! (xero), Friday, 4 November 2005 03:25 (twenty years ago)
Looking back at my post all those years ago they are not merely channeling the velvets. Twin guitars encircle the rhythm section you'd have to point to post-ornette jazz but also I've heard some other distortion-less tracks where its all v indie sounding, v easy going. so the guitars giving it this other dimension is something MBV did 20 years later. AND you have these guys who wore black but wore make-up too. don't know enough about fashion full-stop to know who they might be referencing here.
as to the the points above - you only need abt 20 dedicated fans to rec every show, and they were around for a v long time, so while mizutani and a cpl of his assoaciates might have a big stash it wouldn't surprise me if a few of those bootleggers were the ones who let out gems like this '93 show I have (the highlight being a 40 min perf of 'the last one') (but again I always return to 'live 77' and even though I'm tempted to say that its all you need its not like I ever followed this advice so why should you?)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)
― mcd (mcd), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)
what about those baselines huh?! Not only do they function as an anchor to hang yr ears to when it might just be getting a bit much but they have this really NICE melody to them ('night of the assassins' esp); love the way that, when, on 'people can choose', the bass pattern actually jumps out at you half way through to give the track its 'life'.
God, yes. All respect to Hiroshi (assuming that's him on that track).
xpost
― xero (xero), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)
mcd yeah I'd say they are more 50s rock n'roll w/their biker jackets (wasn't mizutani and other rallizes members in gangs?), more of a knife-fight feel (w/'happening' type material thrown in, and the first happenings took place in the 50s? :-) yes, its all getting slippery). xero I'm not too sure about a stooges comparison, everything about them sounded v tight and alert whereas rallizes are kinda easy-going.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)
this one's the epic though: les rallizes denudes rfi
you guys are great
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)
― Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)
I'm wondering about the source of the recordings because a twenty year careeer with no releases, then a glut ten years after, really just doesn't seem to compute. Is it the association with Keiji Haino?
For a current Japanese band with a definite Rallizes influence, check out Up-Tight.
― Soukesian, Friday, 4 November 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)
-- Soukesian
You can still read Google's cached version of that review: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:eP5t8gIyiN8J:headheritage.com/unsung/albumofthemonth/611+denudes+%22your+real+new+favourite+band%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
Ah, Head Heritage, one of my favourite and most-visited music sites! JAPROCKSAMPLER sounds like a good thing. (Wonder if Cope has plans to one day complete the Axis-psych trilogy by writing WOPROCKSAMPLER...)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 27 March 2006 05:38 (nineteen years ago)
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:14 (nineteen years ago)
― xero (xero), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)
Heavier than a Death in the Family?? or
Live 77??
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Guy Wot Knows Shit, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)
― killy (baby lenin pin), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)
― baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 04:08 (nineteen years ago)
― smokemon (eman), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)
Hiroshi Na (Rallizes bassist) in Dec. '05, and that Hiroshi has been releasing 3" CD EPs.
yeah, there's a ton of Nar CDRs. i've got one of very early recordings (early daze or something like that) that isn't too good. some of the later stuff is pretty heavy psych blowout material.
― baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 04:15 (nineteen years ago)
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)
Not for a few years (it sold out almost instantly), but somebody will bootleg/rebootleg it soon, or already has. Check eBay or GEMM.
― sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.forcedexposure.com/bin/search.pl?search_string=rallizes&searchfield=artist
― sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 04:29 (nineteen years ago)
i want the real deal!
― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:15 (nineteen years ago)
― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 10:19 (nineteen years ago)
― smokemon (eman), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)
― prince rupert, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)
Live 77 sounds great and has more though and with this band you definitely want more, don't wait, just get it
― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)
and yeah, live 77 is the pinnacle. when i was obsessive i collected it all on mp3, now i am going for the full collection on LP. then, when i am through, i can kill myself happily.
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)
― strom (strom), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)
Latest jaw-dropping archival release from Japanese label Univive,dedicated to assembling definitive, high-quality versions oflive/unreleased/out-take material from the most legendary and enigmaticJapanese psychedelic rock band of all time, Les Rallizes Denudes. Withthe kinda access they have to virtually pristine masters, original snapsand gig fliers you’ve gotta wonder if these releases aren’t somehowtacitly sanctioned by Mizutani himself – either way they’re already asdesirable/collectable as the original ‘official’ Rallizes CDsthemselves. This one bundles five (!) discs worth of peak-era Rallizesperformances, all from various dates across 1976, the year before theirepochal 77 Live album. There’s a ton of unknown material here thatshould stump even the hardest-listening nut, with weird ballads thatseldom show up on disc cut with heaven-storming amplifier worship ala“Sweet Sister Ray” and radically re-thunk versions of central trackslike “The Last One” and “Enter The Mirror”, all in the usual gloriouspackaging with colour pics and poster repros inside a chunky jewel casebox. The dates included here are: 04/12 1976, 05/25 1976, 11/25 1976,11/15 1976 and 10/30 1976. Might just be the single best Rallizesrelease to date, just unbelievable. Very limited made-to-orderJapan-only release.
― mcd (mcd), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 08:21 (nineteen years ago)
― disappointing goth fest line-up (orion), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)
― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)
then again might not be.
Very limited made-to-order Japan-only release.
happy bidding
― am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)
Now listening to the Cable Hogue Soundtrack discs. Every time I think I've heard everything I need to hear from them, a new track or two pops up that sparks things up again. "Fantastique" off disc 2 is great.
― city worker, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)
that track is the highlight. the rest ranges from ok to recorded-in-a-tin-can
― am0n, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)
Never seen Cable Hogue, but if Rallizes are on the soundtrack it must be some fuckin' western.
― Soukesian, Thursday, 15 November 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)
I find that Les Rallizes Denudes is WAY heavier, fuzzier, etc. than Flower Travelin Band.
Also, I've come up with another reason to dig Rallizes. Even with the bizarre renderings you get from online webpage translators, the lyrics are really good! You can tell that a Japanese/English bi-lingual poet could really transform them into something wonderful.
'now i have nowhere forever/now i have eternal/and it should continue forever'
'only the flowers bloom/beyond the silver swirl/you have your hands Sashinobe/beyond the vortex silver/kindness to feed the flames of wild life'
That's pretty impressive stuff.
― ImprovSpirit, Thursday, 29 April 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)
Fuzzier definitely, heavier I would disagree with. But my definition of heavy would tend more towards Sabbathy, metally stuff.
― drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 29 April 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
So far I'm pretty much down with all of the Univive releases I've heard, which is most of them. "Wild Trips" hits me as particularly brimful of awesome, but they're all worthy listens. Any problems with sound quality, editing or whatever is more than compensated for by brain twisting performances.
― ImprovSpirit, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 02:57 (fifteen years ago)
The 50's greaseball vibe underpinning their sound really sets them apart from other guitar freak-out bands, I think. There's a real doo-wop/girl group thing that pops through from time to time. As mentioned upthead, "The Night Of The Assassins" bass-line is from Little Peggy March (and maybe a bit of "Dream Lover" in the vocals?) and there's another one that reminds me a bit of "Rumble"... but then again maybe I'm just projecting onto it what I want to hear - it's got an open-ended blank canvas quality that makes them really appealing.
― Brio, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)
I hadn't really picked up on that greaser vibe before, but I can see where yr coming from. There's nearly as much Brando Wild One [in the look at least] as there is psych/hippie, projecting a bit of a VU/Stooges/pre-Ramones sense of "style." This mirrors the contrast of their psych/punk/metal dynamosludge music w/ the dreamy poetics of the vocals and lyrics. Nice.
― ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)
Live 77 should have topped the alternate 70s album poll.
― Captain Ahab, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)
The good Captain makes an excellent point.
― ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHpLkDYfjew&feature=related
^this = good
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 August 2011 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
Should be adopted as a national anthem somewhere
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 August 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
OTM
Love Rallizes
― Lophar Andreusz DeLeone (admrl), Saturday, 20 August 2011 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
as good a place as any to say please everybody boycott those Phoenix bootlegs, it's the Radioactive scumbag again under a new name.
― sleeve, Saturday, 20 August 2011 20:34 (fourteen years ago)
Double Heads
― sleeve, Saturday, 20 August 2011 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
But I just revived also to say how much I love that video, never given enough about what psych bands do with visuals in general. Very much the 'sound of confusion n' all. xp = hmmm...
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 August 2011 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
"Fantastique" on that Double Heads bootleg is truly and totally amazing, even for Rallizes. not sure of too many other instances where they really ROCK that much.
― ryan, Saturday, 20 August 2011 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
since this was revived i've been sort of living in the univive sets. just listened to naked diza star for the first time and the last disc features two cuts from a show where they had a saxophone player. the last disc also features two or three different drummers, one of whom completely upends every fixed idea i had of "field of artificial flower," transforms it into all rolling dyanmics
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 August 2011 07:20 (fourteen years ago)
dynamics*
as good a place as any to say please everybody boycott those Phoenix bootlegs, it's the Radioactive scumbag again under a new name
more discussion on this here:
les rallizes denudes rfi
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 25 August 2011 08:42 (fourteen years ago)
Listening to Part 1 of double heads: fantastique is good, but the '102' track has that smoky 3am in a cave vibe that keeps building interminably then lets go - the usual tricks applied again and again for what now?! 35 years?!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)
Really enjoying Double Heads - great sound, wild performances! Yes, Mizutani's characteristic tricks are in full effect, but I'm hearing things in the sound I never heard before . .
― Soukesian, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)