wu-tang clan: search and destroy

destroy: much of wu-tang forever, tical 2

Destroy: that song with Nas

Destroy: Depressingly, nearly everything after '96, "Supreme Clientele" and "Nigga Please" excepted. I haven't heard all of "The W" yet. None of the stuff is bad exactly, but it just sounds poor compared to the first few albums off the rank.

Search: above all, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx and Liquid Swords (the other 1st wave solo albums by Ghost, Method and Bastard are all very good).

Destroy: Tical 2000, some parts of Wu Forever (but less than you expect)

As for "he W". Very good album: hard & minimal.

Destroy: Tical

I have never heard them, thank goodness.

DUD DUD DUD DUD DUD DUD.

No doubt about it.

Destroy: 'Wildflower' off Ironman - thats just unpleasant - also another bit of Ghostface: the line "suck my dick it's the kid with the fat knob". I mean, really. Also, anything involving Killah Priest.

destroy: "Dog Shit" off Forever.

Destroy: most of the W and Iron Flag, Ghost Dog sndtrk, Return to the 36 Chambers, the usual suspects

D: Killah Bees, Inspectah Deck, Killah Priest, and Cappadonna solo albums, Tical2000 (this album is *awful*)

Haven't heard Iron Flag, will probably get it eventually... Ghost's last solo album isn't all bad. There are some *really* good songs on it (The Forest) but I was extremely pissed off that not only does the sleeve list all the songs in the wrong order (a Wu-Tang habit for some reason) it also lists a song w/Slick Rick and the RZA *that isn't even on the fucking record at all*.

-- oops (buttch9...) (webmail),

Just listened to the W. I think I lumped it and Iron Flag together in my memory.
I'd change my recommendation from destroy to search for the W/
W has a few bad tracks.
Iron Flag has a few good tracks.

there's got to be a better wu-tang thread than this but shit man 5 years on i still love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zG991SknA8

always loved this. make some muffins! i like this whole soundtrack. but this track is my fave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EL6yNyRlMY

http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2014/03/26/why-wu-tang-will-release-just-one-copy-of-its-secret-album/

somebody should start a kickstarter campaign to raise enough money to buy it

that thing looks cool. it would be cool if it was as good as one of the early wu albums.

Is this going to work?

someone posted a wu-related longread that I forgot to bookmark or save to read later, can anyone point me to it?

this is awesome, Marissa to thread

Next: Watch The Throne follow-up will be embedded in a Bugatti Veyron EB 16.4.

xp from the Best Music Writing thread

http://grantland.com/features/wu-tang-clan-20th-anniversary-reunion-rza-gza-ghostface

Not even a big Wu fan and I loved this.

this is a joke right

The Grantland article was discussed in this thread too:

Wu Tang Clan: C/D?

I hope this turns out to be 70mins of U-Dog and Cappadonna dropping deliberately corny grocery bags for lolz. In a really nice, expensive box.

it's funny how they're like "...and the proper album will be being released through the usual channels this year too!!!"

wonder which of the albums will be better

also, imagining an act at the peak of their career doing this. wu-tang are at a stage where odd arty stunts and curios are what's expected (and necessary to sustain interest)

didn't Jean-Michel Jarre do this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_for_Supermarkets

I don't see why people are making fun of this. It's far more likely that some late 30s new-money tech dork or Russian oil magnate will drop a ton of money on this Wu-Tang one of a kind album that it would be for them to making any money releasing an album in a conventional manner.

I'd sooner buy that than a damien hirst painting

seriously this is a cool thing, wtf is wrong w/doing something weird and cool? in my ideal world, the guy who buys it never shares it w/anybody, but the deal is probably he lets it out into the wild

made me think of jason rohrer's chain world
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/07/mf_chainworld/all/
and marissa of course

i thought wu-tang was for the children, not for some shipping magnate or dotcom billionaire or whoever will have the cash for this

also for the 'hello walter benjamin' people, hello

http://modernism.research.yale.edu/wiki/index.php/The_Work_of_Art_in_the_Age_of_Mechanical_Reproduction

The general willingness to accept a reproduction in place of the original also signifies an unwillingness to participate in the ritualistic aesthetics and politics of earlier times. For example, a photograph or film of a Catholic cathedral denudes its unique aura, transforming the role of participant into that of a spectator or possibly a detached commentator. … Although Benjamin discusses photography briefly, his argument focuses primarily on the revolutionary potential of film as a mode of mechanical reproduction. The film actor, unlike stage performers, does not face or respond to an audience. The audience’s view also becomes synonymous with the imperious perspective accorded to the camera. The net effect of these innovations is to place the viewer in the impersonal position of critic—something prior cultic experiences of art would never have allowed (229). The prevalence of film, as well as other mechanical reproductions, also creates a culture of minor experts ready to judge art rather than loose themselves in participatory ritual (231). Benjamin also notes that film relies on a series of cut and spliced images that must be assembled to form an aesthetic whole. Like Dadaist painting, film’s swift juxtapositions and movements strike the viewer violently, disrupting contemplation and easy consumption of the image (238). Susan Buck-Morss develops this point further, commenting that for Benjamin art must “restore the instinctual power of the human bodily senses for the sake of humanity’s self-preservation, and to do this, not by avoiding the new technologies, but by passing through them” (5).

i thought wu-tang was for the children

in 2014?!

it's a reference to the grammy thing lex

i'm imagining this getting leaked by a cracking group somehow anyway

you mean by de la soul

seems similar to the Jarre thing here as well

the difference is that the Jarre album was broadcast over the radio and lots of the pieces within were repurposed from other albums (or would be re-used later on). Plus he was fairly active both before and after.

suspect all those things will also apply in this case tbh

It's far more likely that some late 30s new-money tech dork or Russian oil magnate will drop a ton of money on this Wu-Tang one of a kind album that it would be for them to making any money releasing an album in a conventional manner.

― Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

so does the FBI still have the CD?

Maybe

https://www.oxygen.com/martinis-murder/once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin-the%20story-of-the-wu-tang-clans-notoriously-elusive-album

In March 2018, federal authorities seized “Once Upon a Time in Shaolin” following Shkreli’s conviction for fraud, according to the Guardian newspaper. Prior to that, Shkreli attempted to sell it on eBay, with RZA himself even trying to buy it back from the “pharma bro,” but being unable to do so.

vs.

When Shkreli was sentenced to seven years in prison in 2018 in Brooklyn federal court, a judge ordered him to forfeit $7.36 million in assets, which included “Once Upon a Time in Shaolin,” his stake in the drug company Phoenixus AG, the Lil’ Wayne album “The Carter V,” and a painting by Pablo Picasso.

But Judge Kiyo Matsumoto stayed the execution of that forfeiture order and the seizure of the assets to satisfy the monetary amount pending Shkreli’s appeal of his conviction.

And even if the Justice Department eventually does seize the album if Shkreli loses on appeal, it is not clear that the record will be worth anywhere close to the $2 million he paid for it.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/26/wu-tang-clans-rza-wants-album-bought-by-pharma-bro-martin-shkreli.html

Not sure which of the 500 Wu-Tang threads to post in but the response to them announcing their final tour has been pretty muted on my feeds - has their stock fallen that far or is everyone just expecting a disaster or what

A dozen years ago they were playing theaters, pretty surprised to see this tour appears to be mostly arenas? Hope they dont get into a Black Keys situation

You mean ripping off the White Stripes?

I think people are probably skeptical about what the tour will actually entail. the announce claims RZA, GZA, Raekwon, Ghostface Killah, Method Man, Inspectah Deck, U-God and Masta Killa will all be there. that's a pretty bold claim.

JON CARAMANICA Everybody’s going to be on every date?

RZA Everybody has agreed.

CARAMANICA That’s not nothing. [Laughs]

I put "Black Shampoo" and For Heavens Sake" on my phone last Sarurday and have blasted them nonstop