So what is the ILM opinion on Kasabian?

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Cos I think they are really good.

Cheers.

― Zarr, Friday, 4 March 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

and Madchester revival begins....... nnnnnnnnnnnnNOW.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 4 March 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

take a guess. i would much rather listen to Lo-Fis, Campag, Custom Blue, Regular Fries and about 20 other bands who did a similar but better sort of thing five or more years ago.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

I've never heard any of those bands. what I've heard of Kasabian seems nice enough. stupid band name tho (Manson is such a tired ref)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 4 March 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

I think they've got a good sound.

Music seems better and better these days.

― Zarr, Friday, 4 March 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

i found the album had a very short shelf life. so i side with the Bastard above - go discover : lo-fi allstars/campag/regular fries who all still get regular airing @ ireallylovemusic hq ..

― mark e (mark e), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

i would much rather listen to Lo-Fis, Campag, Custom Blue, Regular Fries and about 20 other bands

I would rather listen to nails being scraped down a blackboard.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

now that I think of it, ALL of these bands have terrible band names.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 4 March 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

have to question the naming of Custom Blue .. weren't they very smooth sounding .. kinda like a mo'wax era South-lite

― mark e (mark e), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

"Regular Fries"? Do I get a bic mac and a shake with that? fucking DUD.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 4 March 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I think they've got a good sound.
Music seems better and better these days.

thats the problem, it's 'old' music. it's been done. and better

― Rizz (Rizz), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

i enjoy the disc quite a bit, even though i know its been done better before. i'll admit that it probably would have been a better 5 song EP than an entire album, but those 5 songs would be pretty killer.

― jonviachicago, Friday, 4 March 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

They came through Toronto recently, and the press interviews were pathetic ... they kept going on about how they're the best thing ever, and "havin' it" on tour as a rock and roll band, etc. They had the Oasis 1994 Manual memorized.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Kasabian sounds more like late-period Roses/Mondays to me. Maybe that's who Regular Fries et al were ripping off (I wouldn't know)...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 4 March 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

The return of....

MANSUN!!!! AAAARRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Regular fries is a great bandname!

At Risk supported Kasabian in Oxford, Dave says they are nice.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

The words "suck", "hippo" and "balls" spring to mind. Dreary retrogressive shite with no semblance of a tune, unless you count "Just". Raise your standards.

― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Friday, 4 March 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

GAY SHITE, I SAY!

but seriously though, it's really nothing special is it?

― Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

Kasabian are not bad, have a few good songs, though the album as a whole not that good.
lo-fi allstars: I liked their first album a few years ago, but who can listen this now? terribly boring and long-long songs. half of them would have been enough.

― zeus, Saturday, 5 March 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

Heard a couple of tracks of theirs today, and quite dug'em.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 19 March 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

shit

― jmeister (jmeister), Saturday, 19 March 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

Rather than listen to some old stuff for the millionth time I played their album the other day and really liked it. The mix of dance and psychedelic rock elements felt organic and cohesive, not as collage-y as lot of things do these days.

But naming your band after one of Charlie Manson's henchwomen = DUD.

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Saturday, 19 March 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

I was convinced by mr. seward's voice review to give them a try and i'm glad i did so. rock.

― charles, Saturday, 19 March 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

I know I will play this album fairly often, and return to it.

I was in a debate about buying this one or the Razorlight one.

The raz, I always enjoy seeing them play on TV, but on radio they sound more like Tom Petty.

― mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 19 March 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

vacuous but arguably more listenable than XTRMNTR

― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 19 March 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

arguably is right

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Saturday, 19 March 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

I still have lots of love for XTRMNTR. I just watched the "Kill All Hippies" video again the other day - so great; the album cover truly come to life.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 19 March 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

I definitely don't like anything on Kasabain as much as I do "Accelerator" or "Shoot Speed/Kill Light"

― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

i prefer supreme love gods

― noizem duke (noize duke), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

kyuss uk

― dave q (listerine), Saturday, 19 August 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

i think the ILM opinion is that they're shit.

personally, i rather like them. if "empire" isn't in my top 20 songs of the year, i'll be surprised.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 19 August 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

dude, someone claimed they were better than XTRMNTR?

wow.

They're one of those bands with one great song (Cutt Off) and a load of mediocre-to-unlistenable ones. At least they try and do something vaguely original with their SOUND, which evokes the dark, resigned apocalypse of a pulsating nightclub. Shame about the songwriting, though.

― Scourage (Haberdager), Saturday, 19 August 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

apparently they think Keane are "a bunch of students". how fucking cool.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

Kasabian vs. Keane roughly equates to Kidderminster Harriers vs. Kettering Town, in my book.

― Scourage (Haberdager), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

The sound of one mouth yawning.

― Pier Paolo Semolina (noodle vague), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

"The sound of one youth morning" is actually a particularly apt way to describe Kasabian's music.

― Scourage (Haberdager), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

i caught a clip of them there on C4's coverage of the V festival. they were as dull as buggery, which surprised me, 'cos the last time i saw footage of them live they appeared to be rocking quite impressively.

still, the crowd appeared to be, as it were, going wild.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

the dark, resigned apocalypse of a pulsating nightclub

Come again?

― jimnaseum - formalist rigour! (jimnaseum), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

You know when a club night becomes so oppressive and decadent that it honestly does seem like the world is ending, as your senses blur amidst a haze of carnal oblivion?

That is evoked perfectly the sound of Kasabian, and it is their strongest selling-point. Like I said, all they needed was a decent songwriter and a bit of variation and they'd have written a decent first album.

― Scourage (Haberdager), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

all they needed was a decent songwriter ... and they'd have written a decent first album.

if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 20 August 2006 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

I do like "Empire" a lot. I'd like it even more if it had Mark E Smith circa 1985 singing over the instrumental.

― Clumsy Colin in ACTION BIKER (coach_mcguirk), Sunday, 20 August 2006 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

They're weak Sy ripoff crap. Annoyingly a guy I know and like at work likes them and hates Sy, which is fuckin dumb

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 20 August 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

To be fair they have got one good tune. It's "Just".

― Pier Paolo Semolina (noodle vague), Sunday, 20 August 2006 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

some of the stuff on the kasabian self-titled is pretty, but it's an album that's 10 years too late

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Sunday, 20 August 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't heard the record - but they have an excruciatingly boring live show, I'll say that much

― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Sunday, 20 August 2006 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

I can imagine. As I keep saying, the record stands out for its production alone, and in a live setting this is of course mostly removed.

― Scourage (Haberdager), Sunday, 20 August 2006 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

I really like the fuzz bass sound in their new single and hate myself for it.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 21 August 2006 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

So what? is the ILM opinion on Kasabian.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 21 August 2006 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

lol indie amirite is the ILM opinion on Kasabian.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 21 August 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

i got the album yesterday. fucker took three goes to rip. i am genuinely looking forward to hearing it. mind you, i liked the last primal scream album too.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 21 August 2006 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

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No, there was another one which the BBC have obviously deemed to embarassing to put online.

― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2019 14:35 (five years ago)

That pyjama dance was astonishing.

I haven't had the mental strength to watch Later... for a few years now and only managed as far as Jools gathering the star acts around a breakfast bar for a chat before having to switch over.

― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Saturday, 2 November 2019 14:44 (five years ago)

It's almost as if this guy has never heard about Jimmy Pursey's solo career.

― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2019 14:55 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lztDzPurZp0

― PaulTMA, Saturday, 2 November 2019 14:56 (five years ago)

Blocked!

― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2019 14:59 (five years ago)

Stakka fucking Bo LOOOL

― Maresn3st, Saturday, 2 November 2019 15:28 (five years ago)

grossly unfair to Stakka Bo

― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2019 15:34 (five years ago)

eight months pass...

Tom Meighan is stepping down from Kasabian by mutual consent. Tom has struggled with personal issues that have affected his behaviour for quite some time and now wants to concentrate all his energies on getting his life back on track. We will not be commenting further.
— KasabianHQ (@KasabianHQ) July 6, 2020

no replies allowed for some reason

― PaulTMA, Monday, 6 July 2020 12:17 (five years ago)

a. drugs / alcohol / rehab
b. he's done something really bad which will be in the papers tomorrow
c. crisis in personal life has led to realisation he is squandering his vast artistic talent being that guy with the hat in kasabian
d. don't care, it's kasabian

― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 6 July 2020 12:31 (five years ago)

Tried to come up with a joke for this earlier, couldn't be arsed

― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 July 2020 12:46 (five years ago)

e. voted for Keir Starmer in the Labour leadership election.

― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 6 July 2020 12:52 (five years ago)

sorry, just realised he isnt the one with the hat

― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 6 July 2020 13:07 (five years ago)

he's the one with the haircut

― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 6 July 2020 13:07 (five years ago)

please adjust the above accordingly

― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 6 July 2020 13:08 (five years ago)

He's one of those singers you occasionally get in bands who doesn't write any songs and so is going to have a completely hopeless and pointless solo career.

― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 6 July 2020 13:11 (five years ago)

If you feel completely indifferent and incurious towards this incredibly interesting bit of brit-pop news does it mean you've got the Rona?

― calzino, Monday, 6 July 2020 13:23 (five years ago)

shoot the rona

― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 6 July 2020 13:31 (five years ago)

replace him with Tom Moore imo

― boxedjoy, Monday, 6 July 2020 14:21 (five years ago)

I won't link to it but Daily Mail reporting he's due in court today - domestic assault.

― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 01:09 (five years ago)

correct answer was b, yes

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/07/former-kasabian-frontman-tom-meighan-admits-assaulting-ex-fiancee

― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 10:37 (five years ago)

WOOO-UH-UH-OOOOH OOOOOH WOAH-WO-OHHHHHH

― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 10:42 (five years ago)

Much like with Samson, the loss of a trendy haircut has cut his cocky swagger by 98%, well that and being a belligerent indie cunt.

― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 10:57 (five years ago)

Meighan later wrote on Twitter: “Following today’s announcement I just wanted to let you all know that I am doing well. I’m in a really good place now. Thanks for all your love and support. I’ll be seeing you all very soon.”

what the actual fuck at this 'statement'

― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:00 (five years ago)

Nice of him to tweet yesterday to let his fans know he's doing fine, hope he'll be right as rain as soon as we know it xxx

― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:01 (five years ago)

Live to fight another day. Get well soon Tom 🦊💙
— Craig McInnes (@Sycophant__) July 6, 2020

Aged well 👌
— YaBuncha (@YasBiggestKunt) July 7, 2020

― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:03 (five years ago)

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/281f5a979541e095c134ea9b93ae719115fa09d5/103_425_1887_1131/master/1887.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=bede5e9e27c65db6d4b70adf07c34d64

He looks like he's being hauled up in front of Parliament to explain his tech startup's serious misuse of personal data.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:28 (five years ago)

His solicitor advised him to come to court as Hugh Laurie.

― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:34 (five years ago)

Exactly what I thought!

― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:46 (five years ago)

more like Dominik Diamond tbh

― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:48 (five years ago)

yesssss! i am eenveeeencible!

― imago, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:00 (five years ago)

If he listened to his girlfriend instead of hitting her he might have found out that those Lennon specs make him look like he's wearing a halloween costume of an Edwardian bank clerk

― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:44 (five years ago)

they're a bit rees moggish

― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:47 (five years ago)

They're a bit like what a stupid person would wear to make themselves seem thoughtful and intelligent.

― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:50 (five years ago)

I wonder if he will still feel like a rock n roll renegade when he's picking litter in the park with a vizvest on for 200 hours

― calzino, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:52 (five years ago)

'oh shit i'm in court in 20 minutes, where's that cheapo harry potter halloween costume i bought eight years ago'

― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:52 (five years ago)

At least his court appearance isn't offensively awful like Tupac and Harvey Weinstein suddenly appearing to have physical mobility challenges.

― beamish13, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 14:45 (five years ago)

He walked out of court a free man w/ 200 unpaid hours of work to do smdh

― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 14:49 (five years ago)

(xp) I'm pretty sure he'd not only be laughed out of court but laughed to and from court if he'd tried that at Leicester Crown Court on a cloudy Tuesday.

― The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 15:02 (five years ago)

I had a dream last night that my friend's mom was showing me a notebook she'd filled wihth doodles and jokes. One of the jokes was labled "SLAYER vs. Kasabian:" and next to that it was simply repeated as "SLAYER vs. Kasyaaaawn----" and after the "yawn" her handwriting trailed off into a squiggly line as though she had fallen asleep.

― Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:07 (five years ago)

it occurs to me that one of their "hits" is seemingly an over-refreshed version of "kokomo"

― massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 07:44 (five years ago)

three years pass...

Kasabian, Van Houten... no Krenwinkel or Beausoleil yet?

https://www.babystepmagazine.com/single-post/leeds-shoegazers-van-houten-return-with-coming-of-age

― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 07:31 (one year ago)

Kasabian, Van Houten...
Krenwinkel or Beausoleil

Babe I wanta stab ya

― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:39 (one year ago)

beausoleil makes his own music

― Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:45 (one year ago)

There was also...

https://www.discogs.com/artist/30515-Sadie-Glutz

― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:46 (one year ago)

(xp) As Bobby Beausoleil, I can definitely imagine some band from Derbyshire or somewhere calling themselves Beausoleil.

― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:48 (one year ago)

maybe they're named after Milhouse

― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 8 February 2024 10:34 (one year ago)

naming bands after disgusting hippy dullards who were gullible enough to be brainwashed by a horrible little white supremacist midget is not cool imo. It's probably Tarantino's fault this is still happening.

― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 8 February 2024 10:54 (one year ago)

one year passes...

An incredibly excellent comparison via Bluesky:

https://bsky.app/profile/craighamilton.bsky.social/post/3lvvxvzbsyk2h

This led a friend to post this:

I was at some festival walking by on my way to another stage, when I heard the absolute worst lyrics I ever heard, paired with shrunken arena rock. I had to stop to witness such a complete trainwreck--and then quickly went on my way. Sorry for the pain I'm about to cause

He then shared these lyrics. I want to hurt these people.

https://genius.com/Kasabian-velociraptor-lyrics

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 August 2025 20:41 (four weeks ago)

The lyrics would be passably ignorable if it weren't for the interview quotes for this album e.g. "It's been 15 or 16 years since the last truly classic album, but I think we've done it".

― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 8 August 2025 20:49 (four weeks ago)

probably the worst lyrics ever written about Velociraptors

(these are the best:

We are now in the Cretaceous period
Looks like there's some dinosaurs approaching, fast!
Velociraptors velocirappin'
When we we run up, who knows what'll happen?
Velociraptors velocirappin'
Don't get too close or teeth'll start snappin'!
When it comes to dinosaurs, we are SMALL
6 feet long and 3 feet TALL
But our size doesn't matter at ALL
We're quick and speedy when it's time to BRAWL
Long, flat snout with a real strong JAW
Jagged teeth and a real sharp CLAW
When we eat food we like it RAW
Shimmy shimmy yam shimmy yay shimmy YAW
We look like birds, you may have GUESSED
Wе lay eggs inside a NEST
We'vе got feathers so we stay well-DRESSED
I'm king of the dinos, even I'm impressed
Long strong legs with lots of POWER
Runnin' 24 miles per HOUR
We don't want to eat that FLOWER
Give us meat, and we'll DEVOUR!
Velociraptors velocirappin'
When we run up, who knows what'll happen?
Velociraptors velocirappin'
Don't get too close or teeth'll start snappin'!

https://genius.com/Storybots-velociraptor-lyrics)

― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Friday, 8 August 2025 21:14 (four weeks ago)

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