The UK Top 40, 6/3/05

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Oh dear god. Right, so now the first half-hour of the chart is… sorry, what in the fuck is this? Two men are bleating at each other about last night’s Eurovision selection programme, and specifically Jordan’s participation in it. One of them, who sounds like he’s trying to encourage you to take A-Level Geography, reckons she would have been representing “England” if she had won. They make the staggeringly insightful points that she has fake breasts and dyed hair. They also talk about Javine’s breasts. Cookie, oh Jesus…

There is now some impossibly stilted banter. They do a phone interview with someone off Coronation Street. Why? What for? What the fuck is this shit?

Oh, hello by the way. This week, JK & Joel (“two of the hottest properties in broadcasting today” says Radio 1) start their new revamped chart show. The first half-hour, which was previously where they’d put the album chart, is now given over to ‘celebrity gossip’ and ‘banter’. Now, it’s been a while since I worked in an office, but I’m pretty damned certain I wasn’t looking for that experience to be replicated in my radio listening. JK & Joel talk in an unbearably half-witted manner about… I don’t care. There is no anchor. There is no point to any of this. Here’s a backstage interview with Natasha Bedingfield, which is what they suppose to be talking about ‘gigs’. They play last week’s number one, the new Stereophonics single, Green Day’s new single, ‘These Words’… They do a film review where they describe Hitch as “the big one, the one you’ve been waiting for.” And that is their film review. They do a ‘DVD review’ of Bridget Jones: The Edge Of Reason where they describe it as “Basically, it’s for birds, it’s a chick-flick.” They reckon that it will have been bought by “thousands of chicks” but that they themselves “would rather watch the football” BECAUSE THEY ARE BLOKES DO YOU FUCKING SEE?

The amount of times we are reminded that JK & Joel are STRAIGHT BLOKES is quite terrifying. There is banter. “Rachel Stevens says she fancies Kenzie from Blazin’ Squad, which is good for me because I reckon I look like him!” “I reckon you look like his DAD!” “HAHAHAHAHA!!!”

Seriously, where in the hell did they dredge these morons up from?

They discuss games. One of them (HOW DO YOU TELL THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE?) likes playing Tiger Woods, and the other one has found a He-Man game which someone informs him “has a cheat to turn He-Man into She-Ra!” “HAHAHAHAHA!!!”

And half an hour later here’s:

Album chart notes: Given that this isn’t as important as it used to be, JK & Joel now get to talk through most of the stuff without bothering with that whole ‘playing clips’ thing. Hence, most of the chart is dealt with as if it isn’t there, except the bits that they like, such as The Killers, who one of them proclaims “WILL BE REMEMBERED AS ONE OF THE BEST ROCK BANDS OF THE PAST 20 YEARS,” or the bits they can take the piss out of – for the second week running Tony Christie is only referred to in order that they can play Peter Kay clips. They talk to J-Lo on the phone ahead of her album entering at number 8. I nearly fall asleep. G4, the ‘opera boyband’ from The X-Factor are the new number one. Louis Walsh, their manager, is interviewed. He’s ‘a legend’, apparently.

Following the album chart we get a new feature: ‘The Retro’. A ten-minute megamix of hits and news from a year in the past that’s probably got Jive Bunny digging graves specifically so they can turn in them. There is then a phone-in quiz where two people guess what the year is and they then have to answer “THE EASIEST QUESTIONS IN THE WORLD” but their answers cannot start with a certain letter. Essentially, it’s the ‘Yes/No Game’ off ‘Take Your Pick’. With Des O’Connor.

Now, when I heard JK & Joel asking “Name something you can eat fish with” then collapsing in hysterics when she answered “salad”, I couldn’t imagine how this programme could get any worse. And then I found out.

New Entries Outside The Top 20: Nathan #37 (‘New Craig David’, take 24); and Kano #22, ‘Typical Me’ (grime MC sounds like he’s going to kill you in a really sly and unpleasant manner. I’m in the mood for this). That’s not the whole story, though.

THE UK TOP 20: IT’S OVER.

If you’re into counting, then it would have been at around 5:20 p.m. on the 6th March 2005 that this column died.

Rammstein’s ‘Keine Lust’ had just entered the chart at #35. Rather than play the record, either JK or Joel instead elected to play a snatch of the song over which they yelled in an hilarious ‘German accent’, before moving swiftly on. And that was that.

There were new entries for Fatboy Slim (‘The Joker’, #32), Bjork (‘Triumph Of A Heart’, #31), Shania Twain (‘Don’t’, #30), and LCD Soundsystem (‘Daft Punk Is Playing At My House’, #29). None of them were played either. Instead, we got brief snatches which JK & Joel talked all over in a largely dismissive manner, just in case you’d got tempted down the perilous path of listening for yourself and then forming your own opinion.

And then they played ‘Galvanize’ in full.

REM had a new entry (‘Electron Blue’) at #26, which found itself being ignored to tell you about their live dates instead.

And then they played Uniting Nations in full.

Two non-top 20 new entries were exempted from this treatment, those being Nathan and Kano. Coincidentally, these two were the only ones to feature on the Radio 1 playlist.

They still played the top 20 in full, and I leapt about to ‘Hounds Of Love’ (#19) once again, to see if the feeling would come back. It didn’t. It got followed by Moby’s new single, ‘Lift Me Up’, at #18. JK & Joel describe him as ‘a legend’. It felt like an anthem as my anger swelled, the repetitive synths and chorus going over and over but nowhere in particular at all, and that was just fine. Styles & Breeze were new at #16 (‘Heartbeatz’), and it suddenly seemed as though JK & Joel’s tongues had been held. They didn’t have time to be hilarious about these.

The top ten followed a second interview with J.Lo, having already interviewed her in the album chart, because they’re so important they get to interview her twice in the space of two hours.

‘Honest Mistake’ by The Bravery entered at #7. This was preceded by a brief interview with them in a pub. BECAUSE THEY ARE BLOKES. I was gonna point out all the times that 50 Cent refers to his penis in his new single, but the amount of references to JK & Joel being STRAIGHT BLOKES in this programme has pretty much crushed that. Britney (‘Do Somethin’’) was #6. I was too comatose to care.

Cabin Crew’s ‘Star To Fall’ was yr new #4. This is one of two versions of the same song, the other of which is out next week. JK or Joel declares that he prefers the other version. The other version being the one on the Radio 1 playlist. This week’s instalment of ‘Elvis at #3’ is ‘Rock A Hula Baby’. JK & Joel don’t want all these OLD records hanging around when they could be listening to exciting stuff like Akon or The Bravery.

I’ve had it with this. It’s mainly that moment when I realised they weren’t playing Rammstein, that a record that had legitimately made it into the top 40 on sales would not be played on the top 40 show. Now, I know that it has been the case that some singles outside the top 20 get skipped over for a good couple of years now, but that was in order to make room for the album chart rundown, and they would guarantee to play all the week’s new entries in any case, so any record that entered the top 40 would be guaranteed at least one full play during its time on the chart. Now, unless it’s on the Radio 1 playlist and legitimizes Radio 1’s status as The Home Of New Music, that’s not happening. The Top 40 has become a tool for justifying the Radio 1 playlist. The Top 20 is played in full seemingly only as a contractual obligation. If they could bump it in favour of a full three hours of JK & Joel, then you know that they would.

Dom tells me to enter the official chatroom. There is a whole swell of people angered by how the new entries are getting the shaft in favour of JK & Joel’s hilarious banter. Someone, however, decides that it’s not JK & Joel’s fault, that Radio 1 is telling them to do this.

But my oh my are JK & Joel ever willing. They are utter company men, treating whatever’s not made the Radio 1 playlist as “Yer name’s not down, yer not coming in,” but those tracks that are on the playlist are “great,” “fantastic,” “legend,” “such a great band,” “outstanding,” “love that album”… Their opening half an hour is hands down the worst piece of radio I have ever heard, pointless to the extent that even student radio would have told them to fuck off. Supposedly an ‘entertainment’ section, what it entailed was them being snide about Jordan and Javine, then talking to an actress from Coronation Street on the phone about nothing for three minutes, then reading out what was essentially an advert for the new Will Smith film in the “Coming Soon At Warner Village Cinemas” style. In between there were four songs, two of which (Nelly & The Stereophonics) would be played later in the show in any case. They had a backstage interview with Natasha Bedingfield before she did a gig at Liverpool, thus demonstrating Radio 1’s commitment to live music (sample question: “Which one would you marry, which one would you snog, and which one would you push off a cliff out of me (JK or Joel), him (JK or Joel) and Chris Moyles?”).

JK & Joel are the new Poochie, new characters hitched to a popular vehicle and not left out of your face for more than five minutes, so assured that the audience will love them and so sculpted to the expectations of what the audience will love (BLOKES, FOOTBALL, BANTER) that there’s absolutely nothing else about them at all. They’re dead behind the eyes, and even the eyes look fucking fetid.

The Top 40 is now solely there to pimp Radio 1 and JK & Joel – you could say the same about Wes, but at least with him his name was tied to the chart, though he seemed to see it as some kind of stepping stone. With JK & Joel, you know they’re seeing it as a stepping stone – the chart is pushed to the end, almost like an ancillary feature that’s getting in the way of their particularly lame light-entertainment juggernaut.

What’s saddest of all, though, is that far from making this chart more representative, it’s become even less relevant. The ostracising of non-Radio 1 approved stuff as being ‘crap’ or ‘weird’ or whatever makes my blood fucking boil. That was the thing I loved most about listening to the chart, the surprises. The way in which you could be introduced to stuff you’d usually run a mile from, the way in which your preconceptions of what was good and what was bad would be challenged very often, about how there was a space where records got played in full and didn’t have to be shoulder-charged out of the way for ‘features’ or ‘special guests’ or ‘proper A-List celebrities’, where the playlist was not so subject to committee decisions or enhancing the station as a brand or fitting in with the overall station sound, where you could listen to pop music without having charm-free twatolescents banging on about ‘celebrity gossip’ or ‘matey banter’ all over the top. My problem with daytime radio isn’t the music so much as the presentation, the constant barrage of inane chatter driving me to migraine when all I wanted was to hear The Futureheads, just once… and Radio 1’s decided that none of that matters. JK & Joel have decided that none of that matters. Pre-conceptions now exist solely to be reinforced, the status quo is there to remain resolutely unchallenged. There is no need to look closer, to be different, to stand out in any way. The removal of the obligation to play new entries means those little ‘anomalies’, those ‘freaks’ can be safely removed before anyone has to waste their time listening to non-playlist material. We have seen the facts and we’re voting on your behalf. Hasn’t Jamelia got lovely legs, eh fellers?!?!

And that’s why this rundown, this column, ends today. There is no point writing about a fucking Radio 1 puff piece. I refuse to confer legitimacy on this shower of shit. Yes, Wes sucked. Wes sucked hard. This, however, has taken all the things that sucked about Wes and tried to pass them off as virtues, to the extent where the top 40 programme has effectively ceased to exist as an expression of any form of public opinion, as an open forum for the British public to show what they want to listen to. To offer a chart show that refuses to play a new entry on the grounds that it does not fit with your playlist policy and to refuse to play it in order to make room for a pair of Styrofoam-based lifeforms to blather about how Bridget Jones is popular with ‘chicks’ is fucking disgusting, and I’m having no part of it.

This isn’t a capitulation, though. If restored to the prior format, where new entries are played in full in at least the week in which they enter the chart with none of this ‘entertainment package’ bullshit, and they get shot of JK & Joel, and they are content to play records without feeling the need to talk about how rubbish they think they are, and they don’t bring back Wes, and in short it’s just The UK Top 40 (the albums chart can stay, though), then I’ll return. Till then I’m gonna try to do everything I can to get this horror of a situation sorted. I dunno how, but the anger, the pain I felt this afternoon as I saw the past two years’ worth of Sunday afternoons seem to vanish into the distance, as everything I loathe and despise about modern youth programming hurtled towards me all at once – the smugness, the constant need to justify yourself by slagging off others, the conformity, the mocking of that which is different, uncool, foreign, which you’ve not heard of, which doesn’t appear on your little fucking checklist – all that, all those feelings must not die, must not go to waste.

So, two years down the line, we reach our final destination:

1) STEREOPHONICS – Dakota (NEW ENTRY)

I don’t suppose you could have made it up, no. You’d never have guessed that I’d like it, though. The guitars twang, the echoes of them stretch out for miles across the keys, and the boy Jones sounds almost like he’s not a cunt. He dreams of the girl that’s fucked him up somehow. “You made me feel like the one, you made me feel like the one.” There’s a bit at the end where he yells “Well take a look at me nowwww, well take a look at me nowwww, well take a look at me nowwww…” that’ s pretty poor, but that riff and the keyboards are really kinda heartbreaking. His voice is still so annoying, but the little bastard almost gets away with it.

They interview him afterwards, and JK or Joel says “There’s people out there who say the charts don’t matter any more…”

http://www.thefutureheads.com/data/images/258_shot%206-029.jpg

My thoughts exactly.

Oh, and:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40894000/jpg/_40894531_quashie.jpg

Southampton beat Spurs 1-0 yesterday. Just thought you’d like to know.

Bye.

(this column is in memory of former Top 40 host Tommy Vance, who died yesterday aged 63 after suffering a stroke. No mention of this was made during the programme or anywhere on the Radio 1 website as of 21:55 Sunday March 6th 2005)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 March 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

:(

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 6 March 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

sigh.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 6 March 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, where in the hell did they dredge these morons up from?

from the 'You couldn't make this shit up' files.

meeting on Viking Radio in Hull
Viking!! C*nts. I'm allowed to say that. I Live there. You don't know the curse of work that is this absolute horror of a braodcaster.

They also presented gadget series Playboyz and car show Motor Maniacs for cable TV channel Granada Men and Motors....
HEY THEY'RE STRAIGHT LADS WOT READ FHM PROBLY WOOOAR!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4315389.stm

light entertainment cunts, Sunday, 6 March 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

this will seriously be missed, dude

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 6 March 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

Well done Will - i think it's the best decision because although it will be hugely missed, the sorry state of the show (and to be honest the charts too) means you'd risk this becoming just too embittered a parody despite the general quality of writing which has always been sparkling and consistent (twatolescents!), and that you'd usually have at least ONE thing to cheer about. but you could bitch about JK & Joel for the next year as with Wes or you could just boycott the thing and the latter seems the more resonant statement of protest.


to be honest you have to be quite glad they didn't play 'The Joker' at least.

Sven Bastard (blueski), Sunday, 6 March 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

I remember in the summer reading an interview with the pair in which thery proffesed to having no interest in music and were all about "having a laugh". With TOTP moving to BBc2 and merging with TOTP2 would you say that it's simply the chart thats being discarded or is this really the end of pop music having any meaning beyond the entertainment context it is surounded by?

elwisty (elwisty), Sunday, 6 March 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

I've a horrid feeling it's both. That Kaiser Chiefs album could be a stronger indicator of the latter, though I'd hesitate to suggest it. But it's all deeply bloody depressing, this self-regurgitating cycle of pisspoor light entertainers. I forgot to write about the bit where they rang Chris Moyles. That did my head in. Maybe another time.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 March 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

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Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 March 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

i'm sure there are people as cynical as i am at Radio 1 who've decided that the charts don't matter as much anymore because of the increased varying permutations through which music can be heard. but as long as the official sales charts ARE given coverage to then they should do it properly no question, all or nothing. it's far from the end for pop music as such, what with interweb opening things up much more, taking control away from media channels to some extent, which is presumably part of the reason Radio 1 and other networks are taking less risks than ever and sinking further into the mire of post-post-modern banality, holding on for dear life.

Sven Bastard (blueski), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Its fucking shocking that they didnt mention tommy vance.
Shame on Radio 1.
Shame that Will is giving this up. Was always a joy to read. But i dont blame him having heard the show(i listened to see what tribute Tommy Vance would get).

Allan Smythe, Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

On the plus side, imagine everything you can now do on a Sunday afternoon. Take up orienteering or something. Pop culture's loss is your gain!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

isnt there another chart show on a different station that would play more of the tunes?

im trying to think whether the weird world service version that comes on at about 2.00 am plays all the top 40 or not.

ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

The World Service is a half-hour round up with Emma B, I think.

And the Radio 1 chart, depressingly, remains the only official one. Hit40UK and Smash Hits would play more music but be far less varied, and still not able to move for tack.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

weird, i was going to say that the only alternative would be to build yr own chart out of the real aduio clips on the site, but they ditched them for some reason.

between this, and the new cretinous controller of radio4 (the listeners want more "crosstalk", like fuckign trailers constantly for radio4 programmes!), it seems that the radio is fucking fucked.

thank god in london at least al the shit legal radio is drowned out by proper broadcasters who treat their audience with some respect and are dedicated and knowledgable....

ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

All in favour of WBS sending a resume to Radio 1, say aye (today).

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 7 March 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

aye!
and he should also send that rant bit to radio 1 as well. It'd be nice to remind radio 1 that some of their listeners aren't brain dead.

jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 7 March 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

smashing stuff will. i think maybe ILM as a whole could start a "JK & JOEL WATCH" to blog their innanity, and then we could present it to the BBC as, i dunno, blasphemy, and then they would HAVE to listen.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Monday, 7 March 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

oh and when i typed that message above I had just turned on the radio, forgetting that it was tuned to Radio 1. It was awful. Been listening to 6music for the last hour instead. I'm off to buy a digital radio this afternoon.

Maybe it's all just part of a plan by the BBC to drive us all to digital?

jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 7 March 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

I would like to see Joel and JK's blank incomprehending faces as they read the email;

"But Kelly said the chart was relevant."

"Look at the tits on that!"

"Wahey!"

etc etc

elwisty (elwisty), Monday, 7 March 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Seems downright fitting that they didn't mention Tommy Vance. For me, he was the best Top 40 presenter, understood the drama of the chart and its significance to the listener. He'll be everything that these JK and Joel divs thumb their noses at.

RIP Tommy and his Aviators.

Oh, and great write-up. I've never commented in the Top 40 threads before, but've loved reading them.

Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Monday, 7 March 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

aww, i've enjoyed your weekly chart rundowns WBS, but i don't blame you. radio 1 is unlistenable nowadays. :(

zappi (joni), Monday, 7 March 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

Excellent.
Thanks for the memories.

And may Saints stay up.

Koens (Koens), Monday, 7 March 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

thanks, WBS, for brightening up my Monday mornings this past year or so

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 7 March 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

I stopped listening to the Top 40 rundown seven or eight years ago but the above is deeply depressing and distressing.

With Peel gone, is there now even one valid argument why Radio 1 shouldn't be compulsorily sold off and privatised? What's the point of having a publicly-funded radio station indistinguishable from Capital/Kiss/XFM (and all at their worst)?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 7 March 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

This was a really, really splendid conclusion to a great, great thing. Felt right, was.

Use new free time well.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 7 March 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

:( You're a hero, William.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

What is nice is looking round and finding that there appears to be no positive feedback on this programme at all - CoolClarity, for instance, are trying to get people to make formal complaints to the BBC, and support appears fairly strong. Dunno that it'll do anything - similarly, there've been a fair few people on the Radio 1 messageboards voicing their anger, but the Beeb seems to be ignoring them. Very little mention made by JK & Joel of the chatroom on the programme yesterday, which might be cos people were mostly complaining in there too.

another thing I noticed. As I said earlier, Kano and Nathan were the only two new entries outside the top 20 to be played in full, and the only two on the Radio 1 playlist. However, what's really odd is their midweek positions of #34 and #54 respectively. Considering that it's very rare for gains of that much significance from midweek positions, and that the only other songs that climbed from their midweek positions this week did so by one place each (admittedly, Bjork, Rammstein, Shania and LCD Soundsystem fell by 10, 6, 3, and 6 positions)... It just seems rather suspicious is all.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Is there a no or email address where you can complain?
I feel the urge to complain about the lack of tribute or even mention of Tommy Vance's death. Plus the fact you can't hear every song in the top 40 has pissed me off for a while. The top 40 chart rundown should be exactly that, THE WHOLE CHART IN FULL. I have derived a lot of pleasure of hearing songs over the past 20 years that I wouldnt hear elsewhere on radio 1.

Rock Bastard, Monday, 7 March 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/make_complaint.shtml

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

i have complained!

Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

Hi!

I work at Viking Radio, ergo I am obviously a cunt!

I've been a WBS fan for a while but this is bloody genius.

Sim

PS : Viking Radio also gave the world Jon Culshaw. Sorry!

Simon Green (fatmancunian), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Can you please stop taking credit for my work?

Satan (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

I filled in the complaint form too.
Did anyone select that they wanted a reply?

Rock Bastard, Monday, 7 March 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

William, it's tragic that your last in this series is so magnificent, but I do understand. These have been the best things on ILM for ages, and I'll miss them terribly. I've therefore filled in the complaint thing, even though I don't directly care about the show, because I'd be delighted if they changed it so you would restart this feature.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Same here (as Martin). You should definitely send your resume in, and the last few columns you've done or something like that. For symbolic reasons, if nothing else.

Ian Mathers, Monday, 7 March 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

I said before somewhere that I would want you to be the new host of Top of the Pops, and I wholeheartedly agree with everything everyone (including you) have said on this thread. I love these threads, I love that you care so much about this, I love your writing, and I don't want you to be the new host of the charts because it would mean you couldn't write this at the same time.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

he could listen to them back but that would entail him commenting upon his own actions and be meta and weird and wrong

elwisty (elwisty), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)

You my boy, Bloody!

BARMS, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

"The way young people consume music has changed. Radio 1's job is to reflect that."

JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Any argument that claims the way people consume music means that the hit records don't need to be played at all rather undercuts the point of a chart show to a degree where you might as well stop doing it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

it might be nice if the recent command issued to the BBC to stop focussing on the ratings war so much was applied to their radio channels too.

Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

It sounds as if the new product will be a brisk, showbizzy affair served up in 2005-style mini-bites. "We want to incorporate all those glossy mags - Heat, Zoo, Hello! - into the show," JK says.

Masked Gazza, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

Hear-hear; a pleasure to read this has been, William.

This recent development sounds appalling; can't say I've listened to the charts since last summer. I indeed thought that 'Wes' was about the worst that could happen; seems I was mistaken there. What is indeed the bloody point to a Top 40 show which doesn't even play all new entries? I would complain, but having not listened to this new incarnation, I don't want to seem akin to the typical anti-'Jerry Springer: The Opera' or 'Brass Eye Special' activist.

And yes, the lack of acknowledgement of Vance rather terribly sums it all up.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)

indeed i myself had already been thinking that to launch this show in the week that the BBC was told to stop aping commercial broadcasters so obsessively was quite worrying; the arch example of a joke without a punchline.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

when the downloads start being integrated, might be 'interesting'

Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

How long before the Top 40 rundown transfers to Radio 2?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 10 March 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

What's topping the download chart at the moment then? Am I write in thinking that merging the charts will mean that the first single off any highly-anticipated album will go in at #1? And that there'll be more novelty records in the Top 10, presumably.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 March 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

Am I RIGHT in thinking...

Jaysus, must remember to proofread these fucking posts.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 March 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

Found this email reply to my complaint.

Thank you for your e-mail regarding Radio 1's Chart Show with JK & Joel.

I raised your concerns about the new show with the programme's producer,
Andy Taylor, who offered the following response

"I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the overall content and structure of the show.
Over the last few years, the popularity of the traditional "full chart
countdown" format has waned. The loss of over two million listeners needed
to be addressed with a more relevant style that reflects our younger
listeners' consumption of music and interests.

JK and Joel were picked to present the new Chart Show in order to bring
their personality to the format. They are encouraged to have opinions both
good and bad on the records they are playing. This is a progression from
the traditional, neutral approach to presenting the Chart Show.

The non-musical content of the Chart show has been designed to make it an
entertaining listen for anyone, whether they are a Chart fan or not.
Sunday afternoon is a natural time in the week to look back at the week in
review and also look forward to the week coming up. The choice of guests
and interviews on the show reflects the tastes of modern youth culture at
the moment. JK and Joel are talented, award-winning, entertaining
presenters and are given time within the format of the show to display
their talent.

Thanks again for your feedback. These are issues that we have considered
very carefully, but hopefully you will still be able to enjoy listening to
the show."

As regards Tommy Vance as you know the former BBC Radio 1 DJ sadly died on
Sunday 6 March. Andy Parfitt, Controller Radio 1, has paid tribute to
Tommy's work and released the following statement at the time:

"Tommy Vance was a great broadcaster. He presented for many years on Radio
1 the seminal rock show which a whole generation of music fans remember
very fondly. He will be sadly missed by listeners and fellow DJs alike."

However, I am sorry if you felt this was not reflected in our programming
on the day. Please be assured that this and your concerns about the
content of the Chart Show have been registered and added to our daily log
which is made available to programme makers and senior editorial staff.

Thank you again for contacting the BBC.

Yours sincerely

Stewart McCullough
Divisional Advisor
BBC Information

Rock Bastard, Friday, 18 March 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

So, basically it was a conscious decision to make the chart show a non-unbiased appraisal thing.

Nice he took the time to write that, but why bother? We know.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

I see Radio 1 are still "keeping it Peel Edmonds".

David Merryweather (DavidM), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Who else got a reply?

Rock Bastard, Friday, 18 March 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

no but i did see Noel Edmonds the other day

Sven Bastard (blueski), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

The non-musical content of the Chart show has been designed to make it an entertaining listen for anyone, whether they are a Chart fan or not.

that is the single fucking most stupid thing i have ever read. (well, today at least.) what next: football for non-football-fans? cheese that tastes like soup so as not to offend people who don't like cheese?

why would you listen to the chart rundown if you didn't like the fucking charts?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I really wish I had complained that it also led to the loss off William's threads on the chart in my email.

Rock Bastard, Friday, 18 March 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)


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